UPDATE: so here are the best deals I've found, I'll be keeping this list updated over black friday:

Best iPhone Black Friday deals:

• Up to 50% off iPhones including 17 Pro, 16, 13 Pro Max, 12 Pro (Walmart.com)

• $1,100 off iPhones including 17 Pro Max (ATT.com)

• $1,100 off iPhone series including 17 Pro & 17 Pro Max (Verizon.com)

• $1,100 off iPhones including 17 series, 16e, Air (Target.com)

• $830 off iPhones (Xfinity.com)

Best iPhone 17 Black Friday deals:

• iPhone 17 series from $8/mo (Walmart.com)

• $1,100 off iPhone 17 series including 17 Pro & Pro Max (Target.com)

• $1,100 off iPhone 17 series including 17 Pro Max (ATT.com)

• $1,100 off iPhone 17 series (Verizon.com)

• $830 off iPhone 17 series including 17 Pro Max (Xfinity.com)

Best Unlocked iPhone Black Friday deals:

• 67% off unlocked iPhones (Walmart.com)

• $170 off unlocked iPhone 16 Pro (Walmart.com)

• $265 off unlocked iPhone 15 (Walmart.com)

• $800 off restored unlocked iPhone 14 Pro (Walmart.com)

My iphone is barely hanging on and I'm trying to decide if I should wait for black friday or just upgrade now. I know apple doesn't usually do huge sales but carriers sometimes have decent trade in offers. Last year I think Verizon and ATT had some deals but they required new lines or switching carriers which was annoying. Anyone remember what the actual deals were for existing customers?

I'm looking at either the iphone 15 or 16 depending on price. Don't need the pro models just a regular one that works. Currently have an iphone 12 that I could trade in. Do best buy or walmart ever have better iphone deals than going directly through apple or carriers? Trying to figure out where to watch for the best offers. Really don't want to pay full price if waiting a few weeks will save me a couple hundred bucks.