TL;DR: dependency conflicts: Updating one requires (by its requirements) to downgrade another
You are right:
conda update --all
is actually the way to go1. Conda always tries to upgrade the packages to the newest version in the series (say Python 2.x or 3.x).
Dependency conflicts
But it is possible that there are dependency conflicts (which prevent a further upgrade). Conda usually warns very explicitly if they occur.
e.g. X requires Y <5.0, so Y will never be >= 5.0
That's why you 'cannot' upgrade them all.
Resolving
Update 1: since a while, mamba has proven to be an extremely powerful drop-in replacement for conda in terms of dependency resolution and (IMH experience) finds solutions to problems where conda fails. A way to invoke it without installing mamba is via the --solver=libmamba flag (requires conda-libmamba-solver), as pointed out by matteo in the comments.
To add: maybe it could work but a newer version of X working with Y > 5.0 is not available in conda. It is possible to install with pip, since more packages are available in pip. But be aware that pip also installs packages if dependency conflicts exist and that it usually breaks your conda environment in the sense that you cannot reliably install with conda anymore. If you do that, do it as a last resort and after all packages have been installed with conda. It's rather a hack.
A safe way you can try is to add conda-forge as a channel when upgrading (add -c conda-forge as a flag) or any other channel you find that contains your package if you really need this new version. This way conda does also search in this places for available packages.
Considering your update: You can upgrade them each separately, but doing so will not only include an upgrade but also a downgrade of another package as well. Say, to add to the example above:
X > 2.0 requires Y < 5.0, X < 2.0 requires Y > 5.0
So upgrading Y > 5.0 implies downgrading X to < 2.0 and vice versa.
(this is a pedagogical example, of course, but it's the same in reality, usually just with more complicated dependencies and sub-dependencies)
So you still cannot upgrade them all by doing the upgrades separately; the dependencies are just not satisfiable so earlier or later, an upgrade will downgrade an already upgraded package again. Or break the compatibility of the packages (which you usually don't want!), which is only possible by explicitly invoking an ignore-dependencies and force-command. But that is only to hack your way around issues, definitely not the normal-user case!
1 If you actually want to update the packages of your installation, which you usually don't. The command run in the base environment will update the packages in this, but usually you should work with virtual environments (conda create -n myenv and then conda activate myenv). Executing conda update --all inside such an environment will update the packages inside this environment. However, since the base environment is also an environment, the answer applies to both cases in the same way.
TL;DR: dependency conflicts: Updating one requires (by its requirements) to downgrade another
You are right:
conda update --all
is actually the way to go1. Conda always tries to upgrade the packages to the newest version in the series (say Python 2.x or 3.x).
Dependency conflicts
But it is possible that there are dependency conflicts (which prevent a further upgrade). Conda usually warns very explicitly if they occur.
e.g. X requires Y <5.0, so Y will never be >= 5.0
That's why you 'cannot' upgrade them all.
Resolving
Update 1: since a while, mamba has proven to be an extremely powerful drop-in replacement for conda in terms of dependency resolution and (IMH experience) finds solutions to problems where conda fails. A way to invoke it without installing mamba is via the --solver=libmamba flag (requires conda-libmamba-solver), as pointed out by matteo in the comments.
To add: maybe it could work but a newer version of X working with Y > 5.0 is not available in conda. It is possible to install with pip, since more packages are available in pip. But be aware that pip also installs packages if dependency conflicts exist and that it usually breaks your conda environment in the sense that you cannot reliably install with conda anymore. If you do that, do it as a last resort and after all packages have been installed with conda. It's rather a hack.
A safe way you can try is to add conda-forge as a channel when upgrading (add -c conda-forge as a flag) or any other channel you find that contains your package if you really need this new version. This way conda does also search in this places for available packages.
Considering your update: You can upgrade them each separately, but doing so will not only include an upgrade but also a downgrade of another package as well. Say, to add to the example above:
X > 2.0 requires Y < 5.0, X < 2.0 requires Y > 5.0
So upgrading Y > 5.0 implies downgrading X to < 2.0 and vice versa.
(this is a pedagogical example, of course, but it's the same in reality, usually just with more complicated dependencies and sub-dependencies)
So you still cannot upgrade them all by doing the upgrades separately; the dependencies are just not satisfiable so earlier or later, an upgrade will downgrade an already upgraded package again. Or break the compatibility of the packages (which you usually don't want!), which is only possible by explicitly invoking an ignore-dependencies and force-command. But that is only to hack your way around issues, definitely not the normal-user case!
1 If you actually want to update the packages of your installation, which you usually don't. The command run in the base environment will update the packages in this, but usually you should work with virtual environments (conda create -n myenv and then conda activate myenv). Executing conda update --all inside such an environment will update the packages inside this environment. However, since the base environment is also an environment, the answer applies to both cases in the same way.
To answer more precisely to the question:
conda (which is conda for miniconda as for Anaconda) updates all but ONLY within a specific version of a package -> major and minor. That's the paradigm.
In the documentation you will find "NOTE: Conda updates to the highest version in its series, so Python 2.7 updates to the highest available in the 2.x series and 3.6 updates to the highest available in the 3.x series." doc
If Wang does not gives a reproducible example, one can only assist. e.g. is it really the virtual environment he wants to update or could Wang get what he/she wants with
conda update -n ENVIRONMENT --all
*PLEASE read the docs before executing "update --all"! This does not lead to an update of all packages by nature. Because conda tries to resolve the relationship of dependencies between all packages in your environment, this can lead to DOWNGRADED packages without warnings.
If you only want to update almost all, you can create a pin file
echo "conda ==4.0.0" >> ~/miniconda3/envs/py35/conda-meta/pinned
echo "numpy 1.7.*" >> ~/miniconda3/envs/py35/conda-meta/pinned
before running the update. conda issues not pinned
If later on you want to ignore the file in your env for an update, you can do:
conda update --all --no-pin
You should not do update --all. If you need it nevertheless you are saver to test this in a cloned environment.
First step should always be to backup your current specification:
conda list -n py35 --explicit
(but even so there is not always a link to the source available - like for jupyterlab extensions)
Next you can clone and update:
conda create -n py356 --clone py35
conda activate py356
conda config --set pip_interop_enabled True # for conda>=4.6
conda update --all
conda config
update:
Currently I would use mamba (or micromamba) as conda pkg-manager replacement
update:
Because the idea of conda is nice but it is not working out very well for complex environments I personally prefer the combination of nix-shell (or lorri) and poetry [as superior pip/conda .-)] (intro poetry2nix).
Alternatively you can use nix and mach-nix (where you only need you requirements file. It resolves and builds environments best.
On Linux / macOS you could use nix like
nix-env -iA nixpkgs.python37
to enter an environment that has e.g. in this case Python3.7 (for sure you can change the version)
or as a very good Python (advanced) environment you can use mach-nix (with nix) like
mach-nix env ./env -r requirements.txt
(which even supports conda [but currently in beta])
or via api like
nix-shell -p nixFlakes --run "nix run github:davhau/mach-nix#with.ipython.pandas.seaborn.bokeh.scikit-learn "
Finally if you really need to work with packages that are not compatible due to its dependencies, it is possible with technologies like NixOS/nix-pkgs.
conda update anaconda vs. conda update --all
Just installed miniconda, updating all packages takes ages, am I doing something wrong?
How do i update Anaconda to the latest version ?
conda doesn't update Python itself?
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Hello r/python,
On my older apple laptop, I just wiped it to install OS X 10.10. When re-installing it, I decided to try mini-conda instead of Anaconda. The installation of mini-conda went fine, and I installed all the relevant python packages I wanted (scipy, numpy, matplotlib, ipython, pandas), and have left to go on my way.
So I was thinking more about it, and then I realized that when I had the Anaconda distribution installed, to update, I just used to run
conda update conda conda update anaconda
Where the first line updated conda specifically, and the second command updated all the packages that were included in the python distribution.
So my question is, is there a miniconda equivalent to updating all packages, or am I stuck with
conda update --all
which takes all of eternity to run...
Thanks!
Sorry if this is not the correct place to ask - but how do i update my entire Anaconda distribution?
I don’t want to upgrade all my Anaconda packages … I just want to update my entire Anaconda distribution.
Running conda update —all says anaconda downgraded to custom_py38 - from prior experience i know this can/will break my environment ..😅
Running conda update anaconda -d gives the same custom thing - but it updates leaser packages .
I've been using Anaconda for a few years for hobby stuff. They only admin I do is 'conda update --all' every few weeks. I assumed that updated everything, but just noticed that I'm on Python 3.6.13. That coincides with when I got this laptop and installed Anaconda, so it's been updating packages but not Python itself.
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How do you include Python in the update cycle? Manually by doing 'conda update python' at the same time as 'conda update --all', or can conda do both in a single command?
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Is there anything else that conda doesn't update that the average user should know about?
I see that I should do 'conda install python==3.10' but will probably reinstall from scratch to avoid problems/stress.