The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad. Answer from YardEnvironmental127 on reddit.com
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Wicked Part 1: Fiyero, Foreshadowing, and Spoilers - Let's Overthink That
January 8, 2025 - In the second act of the Wicked stage musical, Fiyero becomes the Scarecrow. You know, Dorothy’s friend who just wants a brain. Yes, that Scarecrow. And in the movie, there’s a ton of foreshadowing that points toward the movie version of ...
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January 20, 2025 -
So Fiyero in the musical does in fact end up being The Scarecrow. But what led to Elphie thinking he was The Scarecrow in the book? Maybe I'm missing something, but the line of reasoning seemed to come out of nowhere. I've yet to read the sequels.
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The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad.
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It's a combination of things, really. It's not so much one thing as it is the culmination of everything she's suffered in the years since his death. As mentioned below, Elphaba experimented with the Wizard's elixir to dream about the other world like Nanny said her mother did. After experiencing nightmares from it, though, she slowly stopped sleeping entirely to avoid them. She's always been a conspiracy theorist, but in the years following Dr. Dillamond's and Ama Clutch's deaths, she slowly went off the deep end and began developing paranoia. After seeing the scarecrow talismans after she came to visit Munchkinland again, she began to develop a suspicion around scarecrows in general. Elphie's later years were later spent trying and failing to atone for her affair with Fiyero (first with the Maunts, and later on with Sarima in Kiamo Ko) as her involvement with him is what led to his death. Despite becoming friends with his widow and making Kiamo Ko her home, because Sarima essentially forbade her from confessing what she had done, Elphie spent those years being tormented by guilt and a lack of closure. This, of course, never got resolved for her because Sarima, her sisters, and two of her children ended up dead and his only daughter was taken as a hostage by the Wizard and enslaved. After being haunted by her guilt for well over a decade at this point, she sprung at the chance to make up a sleep-deprivation fantasy about him being alive and well - because she wouldn't need to gain forgiveness if she didn't cause his death in the first place. Liir mentioned right before Dorothy's arrival that his heart's desire was to have a father, which Elphie believes was Fiyero because at this point she is more or less convinced that she was his biological mother. For all her abrasiveness in her later years, Elphie does love Liir, knows how much he longs for a paternal figure, and envisioned Fiyero as the Scarecrow in part because she badly wanted to give him the father he never had. At this point in her life, Elphaba's just... lonely, man. She's lost almost everyone she's ever loved, through either death or perceived betrayal. Dr. Dillamond's Nessa's dead, Sarima's dead, her father's never going to love her like he loved Nessa and the shoes that represented his love have been taken by some random child, Glinda gave said child the shoes even though she knew Elphaba was hurt by them decades ago, and Boq was afraid of her after Madame Morrible. She still had Nanny and Liir, yes, but they didn't understand her like those others did. They see her at her worst, her most crotchety, while knowing nothing of what she's been through. And yes, while she does have her familiars, they can't talk with her, no matter how much she tried to teach them. At the height of her mania, she simply wanted to not be alone anymore. In short, sad reasons. Many, many sad reasons.
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So, the simple answer to this question is: Both universes aren’t exactly canon at once. It’s a little messy so wizard of oz isn’t fully canon to wicked, and wicked isn’t fully canon to wizard of oz. In the wicked universe, most fans have to come to the agreed conclusion that the scarecrow (fiyero) teams up with dorothy to defeat the wicked witch so he can find her. He pretends to hate her and want her dead so that not only can he warn her about their plans in advance, and then come to the ultimate solution to fake her death with this opportunity, but that dorothy and the others will lead him straight back to elpheba. More on reddit.com
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August 28, 2024Does Glinda know that fiyero is the scarecrow?
No. Fiyero explicitly says that no one can ever know that both he and Elphaba are still alive. It's believable that Glinda doesn't realize the two are the same. She doesn't meet the Scarecrow until the end of the story when Dorothy is about to leave, and she would have been preoccupied with everything going on with the Wizard leaving and Elphaba just dying, so it's not that strange that she wasn't be paying attention to one of Dorothy's traveling companions, and I can see Fiyero going out of his way to make sure no one's really looking at him. More on reddit.com
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November 26, 2024Question about the scarecrow wicked for good
One possible explanation for his difficulty walking is that he had to relearn how to do it without having muscles or a skeleton. Also, Fiyero has no difficulty playing "brainless" when he wants to. More on reddit.com
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November 21, 2025(Book) Why did Elphie think Fiyero was The Scarecrow?
The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad. More on reddit.com
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One of the lasting scenes in Wicked: For Good occurs when Fiyero makes his triumphant return, is revealed as the Scarecrow, and opens the trap door to reveal Elphaba so they can finally be together.
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September 24, 2025 - 'Wicked: For Good' reveals how Elphaba’s magic turns Fiyero into the Scarecrow as the movie prequel links to The Wizard of Oz
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2 weeks ago - Years later, before her accidental demise at the hands of Dorothy, Elphaba, who is suffering from paranoia, begins to think that Fiyero is alive and in disguise as the Scarecrow. To investigate further, she has her winged monkeys tear the straw out of the Scarecrow's clothing to make certain if he was indeed Fiyero.
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November 21, 2025 - "The first thing that I started ... said of the movie. His character Fiyero is turned into the Scarecrow by Elphaba (Cynthia Erivo) when she casts a spell to save Fiyero's life midway through the movie....
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November 21, 2025 - So did she not know Fiyero was a scarecrow now? And how did he know where to find her? Wicked: For Good director Jon M. Chu reveals to Entertainment Weekly what audiences didn't see that fills in some of the gaps.
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Who does Fiyero end up with in Wicked part two?
December 5, 2024 - But thanks to helping Elphaba escape ... turns out Elphaba is truly terrible at casting spells and Fiyero turns into a human haybale, aka The Scarecrow....
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December 4, 2024 - Yes. Jonathan Bailey's character Fiyero is the Scarecrow and we'll see him become the Scarecrow in Part 2. Fiyero and Elphaba in Wicked.
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August 28, 2024 - In the wicked universe, most fans have to come to the agreed conclusion that the scarecrow (fiyero) teams up with dorothy to defeat the wicked witch so he can find her. He pretends to hate her and want her dead so that not only can he warn her ...
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r/wicked on Reddit: Does Glinda know that fiyero is the scarecrow?
November 26, 2024 -
I have always been curious about glinda did she know that the scarecrow is fiyero because he only became the captain of the guards and agreed to marry glinda so he could find elphaba and then run off together and share their true love for each other as fiyero as always stood up for her. after they let elphaba go and he holding glinda hostage after he surrendered they take him away and tortured him then elphaba does her spelll to save him turning him into the scarecrow then they leave oz together ( i know that they don’t tell anyone that they are alive) but i feel like glinda had to know that fiyero was the scarecrow?
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No. Fiyero explicitly says that no one can ever know that both he and Elphaba are still alive. It's believable that Glinda doesn't realize the two are the same. She doesn't meet the Scarecrow until the end of the story when Dorothy is about to leave, and she would have been preoccupied with everything going on with the Wizard leaving and Elphaba just dying, so it's not that strange that she wasn't be paying attention to one of Dorothy's traveling companions, and I can see Fiyero going out of his way to make sure no one's really looking at him.
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So in the end.. Glenda doesnt know both are alive and they run off snd the show is finished???... Correct?
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November 20, 2025 - But thanks to helping Elphaba escape ... turns out Elphaba is truly terrible at casting spells and Fiyero turns into a human bale of hay, aka The Scarecrow....
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December 5, 2024 - But thanks to helping Elphaba escape ... turns out Elphaba is truly terrible at casting spells and Fiyero turns into a human haybale, aka The Scarecrow....
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Scarecrow's Identity In Wicked & Origin Before Wizard Of Oz Explained
November 3, 2024 - The Scarecrow's bizarre origin story in Wicked is connected to Fiyero, the dashing rogue prince who is both Elphaba and Glinda's love interest.