Ultimately it probably doesn't have a safe .get method because a dict is an associative collection (values are associated with names) where it is inefficient to check if a key is present (and return its value) without throwing an exception, while it is super trivial to avoid exceptions accessing list elements (as the len method is very fast). The .get method allows you to query the value associated with a name, not directly access the 37th item in the dictionary (which would be more like what you're asking of your list).
Of course, you can easily implement this yourself:
def safe_list_get (l, idx, default):
try:
return l[idx]
except IndexError:
return default
You could even monkeypatch it onto the __builtins__.list constructor in __main__, but that would be a less pervasive change since most code doesn't use it. If you just wanted to use this with lists created by your own code you could simply subclass list and add the get method.
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Ultimately it probably doesn't have a safe .get method because a dict is an associative collection (values are associated with names) where it is inefficient to check if a key is present (and return its value) without throwing an exception, while it is super trivial to avoid exceptions accessing list elements (as the len method is very fast). The .get method allows you to query the value associated with a name, not directly access the 37th item in the dictionary (which would be more like what you're asking of your list).
Of course, you can easily implement this yourself:
def safe_list_get (l, idx, default):
try:
return l[idx]
except IndexError:
return default
You could even monkeypatch it onto the __builtins__.list constructor in __main__, but that would be a less pervasive change since most code doesn't use it. If you just wanted to use this with lists created by your own code you could simply subclass list and add the get method.
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This works if you want the first element, like my_list.get(0)
>>> my_list = [1,2,3]
>>> next(iter(my_list), 'fail')
1
>>> my_list = []
>>> next(iter(my_list), 'fail')
'fail'
I know it's not exactly what you asked for but it might help others.
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r/Python on Reddit: Why no .get(idx[, default]) on python list??
June 23, 2022 -
Hi all,
today it happened once again that I could really use a .get(idx[, default]) method on python lists. Here is a brief example why it could be useful (I know there are many alternative solutions to this specific problem here, so please focus generally on the idea of .get for lists).
file_name = 'test.png'
if '.' in file_name:
extension = file_name.rsplit('.', maxsplit=1)[1]
else:
extension = ''If we had such a method we could make the code much more concise
file_name = 'test.png'
extension = file_name.rsplit('.', maxsplit=1).get(1, '')I wonder why this useful method does not exist, especially since it is available for dicts.
dd = {'a': 'AAA'}
print(f"{dd['a']}; {dd.get('a')}; {dd.get('c')}; {dd.get('c', 'nothing here')}; ")
# AAA; AAA; None; nothing here;Thoughts / ideas why this is not present? Are there valid reasons not to have this method? Is it not available because someone has to invest the work to code it? How could something like this be initiated? :)
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There was a lengthy thread on this on Python-Ideas a couple of years ago: https://mail.python.org/archives/list/python-ideas@python.org/thread/LLK3EQ3QWNDB54SEBKJ4XEV4LXP5HVJS/ The clearest explanation of the most common objection was from Marc-Andre Lemburg: dict.get() was added since the lookup is expensive and you want to avoid having to do this twice in the common case where the element does exist. It was not added as a way to hide away an exception, but instead to bypass having to generate this exception in the first place. dict.setdefault() has a similar motivation. list.get() merely safes you a line of code (or perhaps a few more depending on how you format things), hiding away an exception in case the requested index does not exist. If that's all you want, you're better off writing a helper which hides the exception for you. I argue that making it explicit that you're expecting two (or more) different list lengths in your code results in more intuitive and maintainable code, rather than catching IndexErrors (regardless of whether you hide them in a method, a helper, or handle them directly). So this is more than just style, it's about clarity of intent.
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In any case it would have ever been helpful for me, there's a better way to do what I was trying to do. In your case you can use os module which I'd argue is a bit more idiomatic. os.path.splitext(file_name)[1].lstrip('.') Or since if I have file paths I ususally like to work with pathlib: Path(file_name).suffix.lstrip('.') Either case makes it very clear what is happening
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