I have Win 11 22H2 with all the updates for microstutters on my Ryzen 7700x but I think my 8700k has smoother frame times. My GPU is a 3080, I have EXPO enable for 6000 mhz for ram.

Has anybody switched back to Intel & regained smoother frame times?

edit wondering if future BIOS updates can improve performance. (I've never purchased a CPU so near to launch)

I am currently on a Ryzen 3700X and it's bottlenecking my RTX 3080 a bit in a lot of games that I play (games that only use a single core mostly). I have been wanting to upgrade for a while now and as Uni student I am not making much money. I want to save for one big CPU upgrade but I am not sure to which one.

I basically have 3 options:

1. Get an AM5 board and get the Ryzen 7800X3D. AM5 is still fresh and I can easily upgrade in the future if needed.

2. Get the upcoming Intel 14700K from the Raptor Lake refresh. That would entail me buying an LGA1700 board tho which has no more headroom for good upgrades in the future. Upside is that I get performance close to the 13900K and 7950X3D.

3. Wait for Arrow Lake next year. My situation is not extremely dire and I could go with waiting. I have seen the Mobile Meteor Lake stuff and I am very impressed and I would imagine that the 15th gen Intel CPUs will be beasts with a plethora of new features. This makes me think it might be worth waiting for Arrow Lake for all the new stuff that is gonna come with it. But I could also be wrong and they might have stuff that is not useful to me at all and turn out to be just mediocre.

I know this is not a black or white decision but I would simply like to hear a few opinions on what you would do in this situation. One thing that made me sway to go towards Intel is that, as I said, I play lots of games that only use a single CPU core really. I also play many new games that can utilize multiple cores but my main games that I play daily are just mostly games like FFXIV that only use one core. I know that Intel's single core performance is king and will remain king probably so while I love AMD, I was also looking into Intel again.

Edit: if that changes anything, thermals are not a problem in any case. I have a custom loop with 2x 360mm rads and the CPU will be integrated in that custom loop too.

We already know Intel CPUs tend to use less power during idle compared to Ryzen series. For example, Alder Lake CPUs consume less than 10w during idle while Ryzen 5000 and 7000 series roughly stay around 20~30w, possibly higher, thanks to their chiplet design and IO.

But I wanted to check if this hold true for the entire system, not just for CPUs alone. And here's what I found.

During idle, 12600k consumed about the same power as 7600 and 7600x did. Strangely 12600k was more power hungry than 13600k.

Guru3d used ASUS ROG Maximus Z690 Hero for 12600k, ASUS ROG Maxiumus Z790 Extreme for 13600k, and ASUS ROG Crosshair X670E Hero for Ryzen 7600 and 7600x.

Again, the whole system for 12600k consumed as much energy as 5800x3d system did.

While Ryzen 7000 series consumed roughly 20w more than 12600k or 13600k, the author stated all 7000 series in this test were paired with a very high end power hungry X670 Extreme chipset. Still, unless someone does another system idle power comparison for 7000 series using different set of AMD motherboards, we won't know for sure.

And here the result is consistent with what we would normally expect. All Alder Lake consumed 10w less than 7600x.

Techporn used Gigabyte X670E AORUS Mater for Ryzen 7600x.

Performance aside, idle power draw for both 12700k and 5800x were basically the same.

Conclusion;

System for Ryzen 7000 series float around 70~80w while some results showed they can go as high as 100w during idle, whereas Intel Alder Lake and Raptor Lake system could go as low as 60w.

Contrary to what most believe, Ryzen 5000 series were actually as power efficient as Intel's Alder and Raptor Lake. And given how power efficient and performant 5800x3d is, it's easily one of the best value option for Ryzen side when you don't need an iGPU.

I'm upgrading my PC and I already have really good ddr4 ram so if I went with Intel I could still use it would it be worth it to go with Ryzen and getting new ddr5 ram so fair the new Ryzen chips seem like they're better than the 12th gen

AMD will have tough competition with $300-$400 CPUs versus $300-$320 Intel ones:

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/4603vs5033vs4692vs5036vs5008/Intel-i5-12600K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-7600X-vs-Intel-i7-12700F-vs-AMD-Ryzen-7-7700X-vs-Intel-i5-13600K

The high end has Raptor Lake against Threadripper:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/compare/3617vs5022vs5027/AMD-Ryzen-Threadripper-3960X-vs-Intel-i9-13900K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-9-7900X

Raptor Lake is topping single thread performance by a good margin:
https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

Hi everyone

I want to buy a new system, but I don't know if I should wait for Meteor Lake or use the new system by buying an i7 13700k.

On the other hand, if I want to upgrade later, I have to change the RAM(DDR5), motherboard and CPU

Maybe Ryzen 7 7700x is a good investment

I want this system for playing and working with software like Premiere Pro and After Effects

Can you help me make the right decision?

Pay attention to the fact that I don't want to put a graphics card on the system right now because I have a lack of money, that's why I'm worried about the future of upgrading.

Thanks for your help