In both of those cases it should be there are, yes. Native speakers don't always use textbook grammar for lots of reasons. Dialect, slang, informality, and ignorance are a few of them. If there's (ha!) one thing to keep in mind about English, it's that the rules are made up and contradictory. There are layers of right and wrong ways to put a sentence together and we try to be consistent, but it really depends on your audience and how strict you want to be. Answer from DanielleMuscato on reddit.com
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Is it correct to use 'there're' for 'there are'? - Quora
Answer (1 of 12): Why would you want to? In speech, "there are" is nearly always pronounced "there're" anyway. The only exception would be if you particularly wanted to emphasise the word "are", for example "You said I was wrong to talk about there being three horses in the field, but there are ...
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Is it correct to write "there're" instead of "there are"? Why? I think "there are" is often pronounced like "there're" but it is incorrect to write "there're" even when the speaker spoke's voice... More on forum.wordreference.com
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grammatical number - Using "there're" to abbreviate "there are" - English Language & Usage Stack Exchange
Possible Duplicate: Is “there're” (similar to “there's”) a correct contraction? Since using there's for a plural object would be incorrect, would it be possible ... More on english.stackexchange.com
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Is this ok to use? I know it's a contraction (?) of there + are but it just looks and sounds so... wrong
It doesn't sound weird as it's a representation of how it would often be naturally pronounced, but it can look weird as it's not really a "proper" contraction. I guess it's a kind of "eye dialect", like gonna. It's suitable for something like a comic book, where the author really wants to get across what the speaker sounds like. More on reddit.com
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Also see “There is a pair of kidneys” vs “There are pair of kidneys”. Em. – Em. 2018-06-06 09:39:53 +00:00 Commented Jun 6, 2018 at 9:39 ... It's a common mistake, even amongst natives. It grates, but they continue to do it. Personally, I think is has now reached "no fix" status. More on ell.stackexchange.com
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There're is common in speech, at least in certain dialects, but you'll rarely see it written. If I were being pedantic, I'd advise you to use there are in your example, because there is is definitely wrong, so there's could be considered wrong as well. But a huge number of English speakers, even those that are well-educated, use there's universally, regardless of the number of the noun in question, so you will probably not receive any odd looks for saying or writing there's, and if you do, just cite the fact that it can't be incorrect if a majority of people use it. As for me (a native New Englander), I use both, but may use there's in place of there're if I'm speaking quickly.

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I don't think "there're" is ever going to fly -- it's not so much a contraction as a simple elision. The only thing being dropped is a glottal stop, which isn't a "real" sound in English.

From a strict prescriptivist grammar and usage standpoint, "there's" used with a plural is wrong. But in spoken language (which is the real language, squiggles on pages and screens are no more than an approximate rendering) we need to be careful with prescriptivist tendencies. It may offend the grammarian's ear, but the fact that a very large number of native speakers -- likely a preponderance of them -- make exactly the same "mistake" indicates that there is something else going on.

Remember that the rules of English, as we received them in school, are only an approximation of the real rules of the language, and that many of those rules were imposed in the 18th and 19th centuries by well-meaning scholars who aimed to make English a respectable, consistent and properly-documented language. It has never been such.

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Linguix
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There Are" vs "'There're': Uncommon Contractions in Written English
When it comes to written English, it's important to use proper grammar and avoid common mistakes. One such mistake is the incorrect use of the contraction "there're" instead of the more appropriate phrase "there are".
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Learning English - Ask about English - there're / they're / there'll be / they'll be
April 1, 2010 - One last thing – one of the contractions you’ve mentioned is only really used when speaking, while the other three are used in informal writing as well. Do you know which is the odd one out? It’s there're - the contraction of 'there are'. It's quite uncommon to see this written down unless ...
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How to Use They're, There, and Their | Merriam-Webster
March 11, 2025 - While they're not an easy group of words, with practice you can master their distinctions. There is about location. It has the word here in it, which is helpful, and it often answers the question “where?” · There it is. Put it there. Stay there. We'll be there soon. It's about location in the more abstract sense too: There you go. There is where we disagree. Friends who are always there for you.
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Contracting there are to there're | WordReference Forums
March 3, 2008 - Yes, you're, we're and they're are all fine, britney. With personal pronouns, you can always write the contractions (in informal contexts). It's when you try to write the contractions with there or with nouns that things start to get complicated. I happily contract there is/ there has => there's, the boy is/has => the boy's.
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"There's" and "There are" - DAILY WRITING TIPS
October 1, 2013 - It sounds like “There ruhr”—and is very easy to say— because the mouth, already in the position required to say “there”, maintains the same position to say “ruhr”. “There are” is more difficult to say because the mouth position for “there” is different for the position to say “are”. Therefore, to say “there are’ requires a change of mouth position.
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Is “there’re” grammatically correct? - Quora
Answer (1 of 74): There’re is a contraction of ‘there are’ through use of an apostrophe. “There’re” seems fair enough in written dialogue as a contraction since “there’re” is a written expression of how the two words are often pronounced. I haven’t encountered rules stating ...
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It's not incorrect, but it's difficult to say /'ðɛrər/, with two unstressed /r/s in a row, so mostly nobody does. The purpose of a contraction is to make things easier to say, not harder.

This difficulty is one of the forces that has led to widespread use and acceptance of there's as an unchanging existential idiom, like Es gibt in German, Hay in Spanish, Il y a in French, Yeʃ in Hebrew, etc.

Another is the fact that, if you think about it, number agreement contributes nothing to the meaning in this idiom, and should not appear at all, since the subject is there, which is a dummy noun that means nothing and is neither singular nor plural by logic, so by convention it should be singular.

That's good enough for nobody as a subject, too: Nobody is coming, even though it's neither singular nor plural, and even though it may represent many individual people and their individual decisions.

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There's no special "watchdog" likely to come knocking on the door in the middle of the night if you use it, but it's relatively uncommon (witness that thin blue line at the bottom of the chart)...

On the other hand, there're over 400,000 instances, and it is more common than it was...

In short, there're doesn't have anything like the "accepted status" of there's, so if you want to be beyond reproach, avoid it. But don't feel you're completely alone if you insist on using it.

Personally, I wouldn't criticise the usage, but it's not something I'd normally (ever?) do myself.

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r/ENGLISH on Reddit: Is this ok to use? I know it's a contraction (?) of there + are but it just looks and sounds so... wrong
January 3, 2024 - I am an American, raised in the southern US by a Scottish Da so my accent is bizarre, and saying it out loud for me sounds like “Therrreerrr”. Like I’m an unhinged pirate. Point being, you’re probably doing just fine. It’s a proper contraction but I probably wouldn’t use it even in dialogue because it looks, and sounds, rather awkward. “There are” is less effort.
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There're — The Definitive Guide
October 2, 2023 - Interestingly, many people get confused between “you’re” and “your.” Remember, “you’re” is the contraction, whereas “your” is the possessive form. Keep in mind that contractions are also not when we say “someone else’s” because this one also shows possession. So, the best strategy is to always stick with “there are” or the complete form and avoid “there’re” to make sure your message comes across the right way.
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Cambridge Dictionary
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There is, there’s and there are - Cambridge Grammar
There are two new buildings next to the school. They are both science buildings. In speaking and in some informal writing, we use there’s even when it refers to more than one.
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Learning to Use and Teach There Is vs. There Are – Ellii Blog - Ellii (formerly ESL Library)
July 26, 2017 - There’s a lot of money and help available for refugees in my city. Even though there is and there are are describing a specific noun, they are almost always followed by a, not the (see this post for a few exceptions).
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Their vs. There vs. They're – The Correct Way to Use Each | Confusing Words
There is an adverb meaning that place, but it is also used as a pronoun introducing a clause or sentence. Their is a possessive pronoun and it is used to show ownership of a thing or concept. They’re is a contraction of they are, used as a matter of style or in informal speech and writing.
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There Is vs. There Are: How to Choose? | Grammarly Blog
December 16, 2020 - You probably know that the choice between is vs. are depends on a noun. In most sentences, the noun comes before the verb. But in sentences that begin with there is and there are, the noun comes later. There is a cat on the porch. In the sentence above, cat is singular, so it requires there is.
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EN: there's / there're | WordReference Forums
May 2, 2009 - We should use there are when a plural object follows (or a list of objects that starts with a plural object): There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics. In the prisoner's cell there are two windows, a television, and a ...
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“There” vs. “Their” vs. “They’re”: What’s the Difference? | Grammarly
June 23, 2023 - There has the word here in it, which can help you remember that there is used to talk about figurative or literal locations. Their has the word heir in it, which means a person who is entitled to inherit property. This reminder of possession or ownership can help you remember that their is a possessive pronoun. They’re has an apostrophe, indicating that it is a contraction of two separate words. If you can replace they’re with they are in your sentence and the meaning stays the same, then you’ve got it right.