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r/wicked on Reddit: Something I want to know about the Scarecrow and Elphaba during Wicked and The Wizard of Oz
December 1, 2024 -
So in Wicked, we know that Elphaba puts a spell on Fyiero so he wouldn't get hurt, making Fyiero turn into the Scarecrow.
While in The Wizard of Oz, Elphaba is literally seen by trying to harm Scarecrow.
And at the end of Wicked, Scarecrow/Fyiero finds Elphaba and they leave Oz together.
This lead me to to 2 things:
Elphaba knows that Scarecrow is Fyiero, and trys to harm him just to see if her spell actually worked. And Scarecrow is scared of Elphaba/ doesn't who Elphaba is, due to not having any brains. So when Scarecrow has his brains back, he remembers Elphaba, and they run away together.
Elphaba knows that Scarecrow is Fyiero this time, but Scarecrow knows who's Elphaba all this time, and tricks everyone into believing that they don't know each other (but they do, and run away together)
So that's my thoughts on Scarecrow and Elphaba during TWoO. But I think number 1 makes more sense.
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Alternatively: What we know of as “The Wizard of Oz” (movie) is basically a propaganda piece based on the story(s) told by the Wizard/Morrible (and not “corrected” by Glinda, at Elphaba’s request). So while the overall story is “accurate”, we can’t necessarily trust the specific details.
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Elphaba doesn't know that Fiyero is alive until the flying monkeys bring her his note in act 2.
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So, the simple answer to this question is: Both universes aren’t exactly canon at once. It’s a little messy so wizard of oz isn’t fully canon to wicked, and wicked isn’t fully canon to wizard of oz. In the wicked universe, most fans have to come to the agreed conclusion that the scarecrow (fiyero) teams up with dorothy to defeat the wicked witch so he can find her. He pretends to hate her and want her dead so that not only can he warn her about their plans in advance, and then come to the ultimate solution to fake her death with this opportunity, but that dorothy and the others will lead him straight back to elpheba. More on reddit.com
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August 30, 2024(Book) Why did Elphie think Fiyero was The Scarecrow?
The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad. More on reddit.com
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January 20, 2025The Scarecrow's Identity: Wouldn't They Recognize Him in part 2?
I head canon that the spell to save him also whips his memory which keeps him safe. And only at the castle face to face is that part of the spell broken. More on reddit.com
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December 23, 2024Is Fiyero was the scarecrow, why did he join forces with Dorothy?
It is speculated that it's to keep Elphaba safe. The idea of using water to melt her is commonly believed by people in Oz, but he knows it's fake. He has some inside influence and information with those who want her dead. More on reddit.com
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1 month ago - The Scarecrow is none other than Fiyero himself! He is turned into the Scarecrow by Elphaba's spell in "No Good Deed" in which she tries to protect him after he is taken away from the Wizard's guards for protecting Elphaba.
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September 24, 2025 - The greenified witch eventually conducts a spell to protect him from guards serving the Wizard (Jeff Goldblum) that seek his capture so that they can still be together. However, Elphaba botches the spell and Fiyero is turned into a scarecrow.
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September 24, 2025 - The greenified witch eventually conducts a spell to protect him from guards serving the Wizard (Jeff Goldblum) that seek his capture so that they can still be together. However, Elphaba botches the spell and Fiyero is turned into a scarecrow.
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January 19, 2025 - While hiding in a remote forest, Fiyero and Elphaba sing a duet, "As Long As You're Mine," revealing that they love each other ... but after Elphaba is forced to try and save her sister Nessarose (played by the delightful newcomer Marissa Bode in "Wicked: Part One"), Fiyero ends up captured by the Wizard. Elphaba believes that Fiyero is dead and casts a spell to try and save his life; since he's not dead, the spell transforms him into the Scarecrow, and after Elphaba fakes her death by water (at Dorothy's hands) using a handy trapdoor, Fiyero and Elphaba run away together as the musical ends.
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1 week ago - Years later, before her accidental demise at the hands of Dorothy, Elphaba, who is suffering from paranoia, begins to think that Fiyero is alive and in disguise as the Scarecrow. To investigate further, she has her winged monkeys tear the straw out of the Scarecrow's clothing to make certain if he was indeed Fiyero.
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August 30, 2024 - In the wicked universe, most fans have to come to the agreed conclusion that the scarecrow (fiyero) teams up with dorothy to defeat the wicked witch so he can find her.
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r/wicked on Reddit: (Book) Why did Elphie think Fiyero was The Scarecrow?
January 20, 2025 -
So Fiyero in the musical does in fact end up being The Scarecrow. But what led to Elphie thinking he was The Scarecrow in the book? Maybe I'm missing something, but the line of reasoning seemed to come out of nowhere. I've yet to read the sequels.
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The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad.
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It's a combination of things, really. It's not so much one thing as it is the culmination of everything she's suffered in the years since his death. As mentioned below, Elphaba experimented with the Wizard's elixir to dream about the other world like Nanny said her mother did. After experiencing nightmares from it, though, she slowly stopped sleeping entirely to avoid them. She's always been a conspiracy theorist, but in the years following Dr. Dillamond's and Ama Clutch's deaths, she slowly went off the deep end and began developing paranoia. After seeing the scarecrow talismans after she came to visit Munchkinland again, she began to develop a suspicion around scarecrows in general. Elphie's later years were later spent trying and failing to atone for her affair with Fiyero (first with the Maunts, and later on with Sarima in Kiamo Ko) as her involvement with him is what led to his death. Despite becoming friends with his widow and making Kiamo Ko her home, because Sarima essentially forbade her from confessing what she had done, Elphie spent those years being tormented by guilt and a lack of closure. This, of course, never got resolved for her because Sarima, her sisters, and two of her children ended up dead and his only daughter was taken as a hostage by the Wizard and enslaved. After being haunted by her guilt for well over a decade at this point, she sprung at the chance to make up a sleep-deprivation fantasy about him being alive and well - because she wouldn't need to gain forgiveness if she didn't cause his death in the first place. Liir mentioned right before Dorothy's arrival that his heart's desire was to have a father, which Elphie believes was Fiyero because at this point she is more or less convinced that she was his biological mother. For all her abrasiveness in her later years, Elphie does love Liir, knows how much he longs for a paternal figure, and envisioned Fiyero as the Scarecrow in part because she badly wanted to give him the father he never had. At this point in her life, Elphaba's just... lonely, man. She's lost almost everyone she's ever loved, through either death or perceived betrayal. Dr. Dillamond's Nessa's dead, Sarima's dead, her father's never going to love her like he loved Nessa and the shoes that represented his love have been taken by some random child, Glinda gave said child the shoes even though she knew Elphaba was hurt by them decades ago, and Boq was afraid of her after Madame Morrible. She still had Nanny and Liir, yes, but they didn't understand her like those others did. They see her at her worst, her most crotchety, while knowing nothing of what she's been through. And yes, while she does have her familiars, they can't talk with her, no matter how much she tried to teach them. At the height of her mania, she simply wanted to not be alone anymore. In short, sad reasons. Many, many sad reasons.
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January 8, 2025 - Now, before I go any further, I’m warning you: there will be spoilers for the Wicked stage musical down below the cut here. The foreshadowing in Part 1 is based on that knowledge. If you click the link below and read the rest of this post, please don’t say you weren’t warned. In the second act of the Wicked stage musical, Fiyero becomes the Scarecrow.
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r/wicked on Reddit: The Scarecrow's Identity: Wouldn't They Recognize Him in part 2?
December 23, 2024 -
In "Wicked" Part 2, Jonathan Bailey turns into the Scarecrow, and even after his transformation, he still wears the same Captain's uniform and accompanies Dorothy to meet Oz. My biggest question is: Fiyero was the Captain of the Guard, so wouldn't Oz, Galinda, or Madame Morrible recognize his outfit and figure out his identity???
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I head canon that the spell to save him also whips his memory which keeps him safe. And only at the castle face to face is that part of the spell broken.
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We honestly have no idea since we never see those interactions in the stage show. Maybe it’s the Clark Kent effect: they don’t expect to see Fiyero so they don’t see Fiyero. There is a great fanfic that was written recently from Fiyercrow’s perspective though.
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