Hi everyone,
I want to change my notebook and I wanted to buy something with no dGPU so I was looking for and AMD laptop.
I wanted to know if there is any ryzen 5/ryzen 7 APU based on Zen4 and RDNA3 out yet. If not, there is some rumor about timing and performance?
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Leaks/rumors both recent and some dating several months back revealed that Zen 4/Raphael/7000 series could be featuring an iGPU on the CPU for desktop, which sounded ideal to me to wait out the current GPU craze and to have a back-up in case of GPU failure. However, upon reading this article ( https://wccftech.com/amd-ryzen-7000-zen-4-raphael-with-optimized-tsmc-5nm-process-to-be-the-first-cpus-to-launch-on-am5-platform-ryzen-apus-may-launch-later/ ), it became unclear to me as to whether or not it'll launch with an integrated graphics component. Anyone who might be able to clarify?
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Thanks for the insight! It's become a lot more clear to me now.
Raphael will have iGPU, but the graphics portion will be really small, like 4CU.
AMD talked about Rembrandt (6nm, monolithic 8C+ 12CU APU) launch on desktop possibly affected by DDR5 prices. I think they will also want to prioritize and fill the laptop market, before introducing them to desktop. Next generation desktop-aimed chips, codenamed Raphael (5nm chiplets + I/O die), are rumored to have an iGPU too, but probably a much weaker one, compared to Rembrandt, and these should not be delayed by DDR5 prices.
I've honestly been hoping for a long time to build a very small compact Apu PC with good performance. There are options now with Vega better than ever with the 5600/5700g but the performance is just not there right now and was expecting more since they advertised 1080p gaming performance when those released. Do you think we will see Radeon apus when am5 releases? The possibility of ddr5 and Radeon graphics in a small desktop form factor excites me.
AM5 is going to be an expensive platform in the first year. X670 (?) will have DDR5, PCIe 5.0, USB4, and other tech which requires more complex motherboards.
The 6500 XT is currently £190 in the UK. With an MSI B550M PRO-VDH (£85) and Ryzen 5500 (£143), that comes to £418. The 5700G was £310 at launch, but £260 today. Add the same B550 board and it's £345. So for £73 more, you get something like 3x-4x the gaming performance of the 5700G.
Let's assume AMD's upcoming AM5 APUs are much faster - maybe equivalent to a GTX 1650, which is still 30% slower than a 6500 XT. That APU will be really expensive, as will the boards (even B650), and the DDR5 memory.
So yeah, I'd expect the new Zen 4 APUs to be blazing fast, but also very expensive to buy into thanks to high initial board and DDR5 pricing. We should also not forget that it's possible AMD doesn't launch the APUs until 4-6 months after the main CPU launch, as they did with Ryzen 5000.
Lol. Current APU lineup since 2200G is literally called Radeon Vega graphics. What you are looking for is RDNA2 iGPUs.
The performance is not incredible. It's already available in R9 6900HS laptops. Performs slightly worse than laptop GTX 1650 ig.
Seems like we've been waiting forever for Ryzen 7840U laptops, but they're still nowhere to be found. Is it even worth waiting anymore if I need a laptop soon?
Intel is going to put their DG iGPU on next year's CPU's aren't they? If AMD don't put RDNA on Zen 4 I think they will have a problem on their hands.
You're talkin desktop? It's rumored zen4'd come with rdna2 igpu but it ain't gonna be fast or high in cu anyway. Both intel and amd ship cpus with igpu for the display out, the performance ain't the selling point. They're used for office systems or for the extra monitor. They don't care for them to be fast because they're in the dgpu business and want you to pay up for the dgpu
Can't see the logic, gamers use dGPUs, not iGPUs (those are for low end builds), either way AMD already done APUs with RDNA2 on consoles and even Steam Deck.
So technical wise is already done.