What is the difference between GPT-5 and GPT-5-chat exactly? Why does GPT-5-chat rate so poorly on livebench.ai?
After a thorough evaluation of ChatGPT 5, these are my realizations
GPT-5 vs GPT-5 Chat, what's the difference?
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I had the impression that GPT-5-chat was simply a sort of a wrapper that directed prompts to the appropriate level of GPT-5 (per thinking level, or to GPT-5-mini when the user had used up their quota for regular GPT-5).
But according to livebench.ai, GPT-5-chat is much worse than GPT-5 with low thinking and even GPT-5 mini. It's basically at the level of GPT-5-nano, but it is not GPT-5-nano.
What the fuck is GPT-5-chat exactly then?
And while I'm here, what exactly is GPT-5-pro? GPT-5 with high thinking effort?
Realizations:
Claude is pretty fucking awesome
I'm a lot less concerned about ASI/The Singularity/AGI 2027 or whatever doomy scenario was bouncing around my noggin
GPT5 is about lowering costs for OpenAI, not pushing the boundaries of the frontier
Sam's death star pre-launch hype image was really about the size of his ego and had nothing to do with the capabilities of GPT5
What are yours?