The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad. Answer from YardEnvironmental127 on reddit.com
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What Happened to Elphaba & Fiyero at the End of Wicked: For Good? (EXPLAINED)
One of the lasting scenes in Wicked: For Good occurs when Fiyero makes his triumphant return, is revealed as the Scarecrow, and opens the trap door to reveal Elphaba so they can finally be together.
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r/wicked on Reddit: (Book) Why did Elphie think Fiyero was The Scarecrow?
January 20, 2025 -
So Fiyero in the musical does in fact end up being The Scarecrow. But what led to Elphie thinking he was The Scarecrow in the book? Maybe I'm missing something, but the line of reasoning seemed to come out of nowhere. I've yet to read the sequels.
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The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad.
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It's a combination of things, really. It's not so much one thing as it is the culmination of everything she's suffered in the years since his death. As mentioned below, Elphaba experimented with the Wizard's elixir to dream about the other world like Nanny said her mother did. After experiencing nightmares from it, though, she slowly stopped sleeping entirely to avoid them. She's always been a conspiracy theorist, but in the years following Dr. Dillamond's and Ama Clutch's deaths, she slowly went off the deep end and began developing paranoia. After seeing the scarecrow talismans after she came to visit Munchkinland again, she began to develop a suspicion around scarecrows in general. Elphie's later years were later spent trying and failing to atone for her affair with Fiyero (first with the Maunts, and later on with Sarima in Kiamo Ko) as her involvement with him is what led to his death. Despite becoming friends with his widow and making Kiamo Ko her home, because Sarima essentially forbade her from confessing what she had done, Elphie spent those years being tormented by guilt and a lack of closure. This, of course, never got resolved for her because Sarima, her sisters, and two of her children ended up dead and his only daughter was taken as a hostage by the Wizard and enslaved. After being haunted by her guilt for well over a decade at this point, she sprung at the chance to make up a sleep-deprivation fantasy about him being alive and well - because she wouldn't need to gain forgiveness if she didn't cause his death in the first place. Liir mentioned right before Dorothy's arrival that his heart's desire was to have a father, which Elphie believes was Fiyero because at this point she is more or less convinced that she was his biological mother. For all her abrasiveness in her later years, Elphie does love Liir, knows how much he longs for a paternal figure, and envisioned Fiyero as the Scarecrow in part because she badly wanted to give him the father he never had. At this point in her life, Elphaba's just... lonely, man. She's lost almost everyone she's ever loved, through either death or perceived betrayal. Dr. Dillamond's Nessa's dead, Sarima's dead, her father's never going to love her like he loved Nessa and the shoes that represented his love have been taken by some random child, Glinda gave said child the shoes even though she knew Elphaba was hurt by them decades ago, and Boq was afraid of her after Madame Morrible. She still had Nanny and Liir, yes, but they didn't understand her like those others did. They see her at her worst, her most crotchety, while knowing nothing of what she's been through. And yes, while she does have her familiars, they can't talk with her, no matter how much she tried to teach them. At the height of her mania, she simply wanted to not be alone anymore. In short, sad reasons. Many, many sad reasons.
Is Fiyero was the scarecrow, why did he join forces with Dorothy?
It is speculated that it's to keep Elphaba safe. The idea of using water to melt her is commonly believed by people in Oz, but he knows it's fake. He has some inside influence and information with those who want her dead. More on reddit.com
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1 month agoDoes Glinda know that fiyero is the scarecrow?
No. Fiyero explicitly says that no one can ever know that both he and Elphaba are still alive. It's believable that Glinda doesn't realize the two are the same. She doesn't meet the Scarecrow until the end of the story when Dorothy is about to leave, and she would have been preoccupied with everything going on with the Wizard leaving and Elphaba just dying, so it's not that strange that she wasn't be paying attention to one of Dorothy's traveling companions, and I can see Fiyero going out of his way to make sure no one's really looking at him. More on reddit.com
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November 26, 2024(Book) Why did Elphie think Fiyero was The Scarecrow?
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January 20, 2025Jonathan Bailey opens up about changing his appearance for Wicked
This is like the second time his eye color and a certain “love scene” (which in the musical happens in ALAYM) were referenced together. We also have this from Frances Hannon’s interview : “And Fiyero, of course, he had a love sequence to do with Elphaba whilst he was a scarecrow. So we did a pass at it where um and the wig worked perfectly well because it was the transition and we, you know, sewed in half the field into a basic wig that was of the color of his original blondes and that just worked really well on Jonathan, but the um our, our burlap face, our sacking, you know, that was his head. … And Jonathan in the film, we gave him, Jonathan has naturally brown eyes. We made him blue for Fiyero because that’s the color of his village and where he comes from his color tones palette. And then we made him dark brown for the fields for when he becomes scarecrows. So his eyes became more of a pool, um which worked really well in the love scenes, I think. But that was the, the prosthetic sort of, and they, they worked beautifully and of course, then the actors brought it all to life, but it was beautifully done.” Is Fiyero in his scarecrow form already in ALAYM? Another love scene towards the end? ALAYM reprise? Because it’s really looking like this atm: Curiouser and curiouser. More on reddit.com
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November 26, 2025 - In Wicked: For Good, the Scarecrow is a human, Fiyero (Jonathan Bailey), who was transformed by Elphaba’s magic.
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3 weeks ago - Years later, before her accidental demise at the hands of Dorothy, Elphaba, who is suffering from paranoia, begins to think that Fiyero is alive and in disguise as the Scarecrow. To investigate further, she has her winged monkeys tear the straw out of the Scarecrow's clothing to make certain if he was indeed Fiyero.
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November 21, 2025 - "The first thing that I started ... said of the movie. His character Fiyero is turned into the Scarecrow by Elphaba (Cynthia Erivo) when she casts a spell to save Fiyero's life midway through the movie....
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November 24, 2025 - ... While Bailey spent the majority of the two Wicked films as Prince Fiyero, by the end of Wicked: For Good, he is unknowingly transformed into the Scarecrow by Elphaba in an attempt to save his life.
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'Wicked: For Good' director reveals secret note Fiyero sent Elphaba that explains surprise ending
November 21, 2025 - So did she not know Fiyero was a scarecrow now? And how did he know where to find her? Wicked: For Good director Jon M. Chu reveals to Entertainment Weekly what audiences didn't see that fills in some of the gaps.
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November 23, 2025 - After successfully finding the ... Man, The Cowardly Lion and The Scarecrow. Fiyero (Jonathan Bailey), who is in a love triangle with Elphaba and Glinda, becomes the Scarecrow, while Boq (Ethan Slater), a Munchkin, transforms ...
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September 24, 2025 - 'Wicked: For Good' reveals how Elphaba’s magic turns Fiyero into the Scarecrow as the movie prequel links to The Wizard of Oz
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June 4, 2025 - The backstory of how Fiyero became ... to be the same in the Wicked Movie (Part Two), Fiyero returns as the Scarecrow when he helps Elphaba escape after she fakes her own death....
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1 month ago - The Scarecrow then travels with ... kill Elphaba. In the musical, Wicked, Fiyero turns into the Scarecrow after Elphaba chants a spell to save his life during the song, No Good Deed....
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January 19, 2025 - If you're impatient while you wait for "Wicked: For Good" — the recently retitled second half of Chu's epic "Wicked" story — here's how we think Fiyero will undergo his transformation when the movie releases in November of this year.
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December 5, 2024 - But thanks to helping Elphaba escape ... turns out Elphaba is truly terrible at casting spells and Fiyero turns into a human haybale, aka The Scarecrow....
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December 4, 2024 - Yes. Jonathan Bailey's character Fiyero is the Scarecrow and we'll see him become the Scarecrow in Part 2. Fiyero and Elphaba in Wicked.
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Who Does Fiyero End Up With in Wicked?
November 20, 2025 - But thanks to helping Elphaba escape ... turns out Elphaba is truly terrible at casting spells and Fiyero turns into a human bale of hay, aka The Scarecrow....
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Wicked Part 1: Fiyero, Foreshadowing, and Spoilers - Let's Overthink That
January 8, 2025 - In the second act of the Wicked stage musical, Fiyero becomes the Scarecrow. You know, Dorothy’s friend who just wants a brain. Yes, that Scarecrow. And in the movie, there’s a ton of foreshadowing that points toward the movie version of ...
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r/wickedmovie on Reddit: Is Fiyero was the scarecrow, why did he join forces with Dorothy?
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Okay one thing that I find confusing in for good was Fiyero cause of course we all know he turned into a scarecrow thanks to Elphaba’s spell but I’m wondering, why did he join forces with Dorothy if he knew that he’s gonna be fleeing away with Elphaba in the end of the movie?
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It is speculated that it's to keep Elphaba safe. The idea of using water to melt her is commonly believed by people in Oz, but he knows it's fake. He has some inside influence and information with those who want her dead.
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Maybe it was Dorothy who got him down from the pole. And he must have thought following her to the castle was the best way to get back to Elphaba.
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November 26, 2024 - After fleeing, Elphaba believes that the guards could be torturing Fiyero for answers, and tries to cast a spell to save him, inadvertently turning him into the Scarecrow.
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r/wicked on Reddit: Does Glinda know that fiyero is the scarecrow?
November 26, 2024 -
I have always been curious about glinda did she know that the scarecrow is fiyero because he only became the captain of the guards and agreed to marry glinda so he could find elphaba and then run off together and share their true love for each other as fiyero as always stood up for her. after they let elphaba go and he holding glinda hostage after he surrendered they take him away and tortured him then elphaba does her spelll to save him turning him into the scarecrow then they leave oz together ( i know that they don’t tell anyone that they are alive) but i feel like glinda had to know that fiyero was the scarecrow?
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No. Fiyero explicitly says that no one can ever know that both he and Elphaba are still alive. It's believable that Glinda doesn't realize the two are the same. She doesn't meet the Scarecrow until the end of the story when Dorothy is about to leave, and she would have been preoccupied with everything going on with the Wizard leaving and Elphaba just dying, so it's not that strange that she wasn't be paying attention to one of Dorothy's traveling companions, and I can see Fiyero going out of his way to make sure no one's really looking at him.
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So in the end.. Glenda doesnt know both are alive and they run off snd the show is finished???... Correct?