https://abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/trump-ramps-anti-immigrant-rhetoric-embraces-phrase-hole/story?id=128279166

I’ve recently noticed a spike in anti-Somali sentiment on TikTok and other forms of media. Quite aware anti-Somali sentiment has been prevalent for quite some time. However, the sentiment has always seemed on the low end and not a number one issue. Now it seems to have become a top issue that is preoccupying tons of people’s minds like Trump’s right now. Any particular reason why anti-Somali sentiment is being intensified right now?

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hhs-freezing-child-care-payments-minnesota-after-fraud/story?id=128793851

I’ve been fasting on the news over the holiday for my own sanity’s sake. It seems like this controversy started in the right-wing blogosphere, but has now blown up to a national news making event. What’s the story?

There are 539 childcare centers in Washington state that list Somali as the primary language. Most don’t even give a street address.

I don’t know how many of these are submitting fraudulent claims for state grants and subsidies, but I have a strong hunch the number is not zero.

It is embarassing because in the uk somalis are known to take benefits and they dont feel embarassed. They seem to think it comes from god and not from the hard work of the tax payer citizens ? It has gotten better lately and I do see way more somalis working but its still bad. Even in Somalia itself the craftsmen (madhiban people) are despised even though theyre needed. Why are somalis so backwards !?!?

Submission statement: The article describes how some of the welfare funds in Minnesota were fraudulently diverted to Al-Shabaab. The article highlights the involvement of members of the Somali community in Minnesota, including politicians and businessmen, in the fraud schemes. The article also mentions that the fraudsters used sophisticated methods to launder the money, including using shell companies and hawala networks.

Wallahi I believe only educated diaspora Somalia can revive Somalia and help remove tribalism and bring in the correct interpretation of Islam and build our country. It’s time to stop hoping for things and actually take action. I would like to create a discussion rather it be a weekly zoom or group. Let me know what your opinion is. Inshallah Somali will be revived and we will leave this dark age by the will of Allah.

Phase 1 (Years 1-5): Stabilization & National Mobilization

1. Centralized Government & Super Nationalism

• Establish a strong, centralized government with full control over the country.

• End clan-based politics; replace it with a unified Somali national identity.

• Launch a National Service Program: All citizens must serve two years in military, civil service, or infrastructure projects.

• National Media & Education Campaigns: Reinforce Somali identity, history, and nationalism.

• Ban foreign political interference and promote national self-sufficiency.

• Techniques to Incite Nationalism:

• National Heroes & Mythology: Promote historical Somali warriors, poets, and leaders as national symbols.

• Mass Rallies & Celebrations: Organize national festivals, parades, and youth programs reinforcing Somali unity.

• State-Controlled Media & Entertainment: Use TV, music, and social media to spread nationalist content.

• Education Reform: Mandatory nationalist curriculum in schools emphasizing Somali greatness.

• Language Standardization: Enforce Somali as the primary language across all sectors.

• Cultural Revival Programs: Restore and promote Somali art, music, and literature.

2. Economic Stabilization & Infrastructure Expansion

• Secure foreign direct investment (FDI) from China, UAE, Turkey, and Western investors for infrastructure.

• Begin megaprojects: highways, railways, electricity grids, and modernized ports in Mogadishu, Berbera, Kismayo, and Bosaso.

• Launch resource extraction and processing industries: oil refining, mineral processing, and sustainable fishing.

• Build industrial parks to attract foreign companies to manufacture goods inside Somalia.

• Initiate trade agreements with Ethiopia, Kenya, the GCC, and China to strengthen exports.

3. Reforestation & Environmental Restoration

• Plant 500 million+ trees over 20 years to combat desertification.

• Implement strict anti-deforestation laws and develop government-managed forests.

• Invest in water conservation: dam construction, irrigation systems, and desalination plants.

• Promote green energy (solar, wind, hydro) for rural electrification.

🚀 Goal: Secure 7-10% GDP growth annually and reduce unemployment below 20%.

Phase 2 (Years 6-10): Industrialization & Trade Hub Development

1. Manufacturing & High-Value Industry Development

• Expand heavy industry (steel, cement, shipbuilding, and oil refining).

• Incentivize private-sector-led industrialization, modeled after South Korea and UAE.

• Establish automotive, textile, and electronics assembly plants for domestic and export use.

• Develop Somali-made consumer brands for African and global markets.

2. Global Trade & Finance Hub

• Make Somalia Africa’s main shipping & logistics center by modernizing its ports.

• Establish Free Trade Zones (FTZs) with tax incentives for international corporations.

• Launch a Somali Stock Exchange (SSE) to attract capital and investment.

• Strengthen Islamic banking & fintech to become a global leader in Sharia-compliant finance.

• Expand regional trade alliances, positioning Somalia as an economic powerhouse in the Horn of Africa.

3. Military & Security Strengthening

• Modernize the Somali Armed Forces into a self-sufficient military.

• Strengthen the Somali Navy & Coast Guard to eliminate piracy and secure shipping lanes.

• Establish defense manufacturing to produce arms, ammunition, and military vehicles.

• Implement mandatory firearms training for all adult citizens as part of national defense readiness.

🚀 Goal: GDP surpasses $100 billion, industrial output doubles, Somalia dominates Horn of Africa trade.

Phase 3 (Years 11-15): Advanced Economy & Technological Leadership

1. High-Tech Industry & Innovation Economy

• Invest heavily in AI, robotics, and biotech to lead in technological innovation.

• Expand digital infrastructure: high-speed internet, e-government services, and smart cities.

• Build research universities focusing on medicine, engineering, and technology.

• Create Somali Aerospace & Space Research Program to launch satellites.

2. Agriculture & Food Security Expansion

• Develop modern farming techniques using AI and precision agriculture.

• Convert arid land into fertile farmland through irrigation projects.

• Establish food processing industries to export Somali agricultural products.

• Increase livestock farming for global halal meat markets.

3. Cultural & Soft Power Influence

• Expand Somali state media (TV, radio, and film) to influence global narratives.

• Develop national sports teams and cultural industries (music, cinema, fashion).

• Promote Somali language & culture worldwide.

• Neutrality & Ethnic Somali Integration Plan:

• Strengthen Somali Kinship Abroad: Foster strong cross-border economic and cultural ties with ethnic Somalis in Ethiopia, Kenya, and Djibouti.Leverage Economic Influence: Encourage ethnic Somalis to hold key business and political positions in neighboring states.Education & Trade Programs: Offer scholarships and business investments for ethnic Somalis in those countries.Somali Cultural Centers: Establish hubs in Kenya, Ethiopia, and Djibouti to reinforce Somali heritage.Non-Military Unity Strategy: Encourage soft-power diplomacy to integrate ethnic Somalis under Somali leadership without border disputes.

🚀 Goal: GDP reaches $250 billion, per capita income moves to upper middle-income levels.

Phase 4 (Years 16-20): First-World Transition

1. Full Industrial & Financial Independence

• Develop Somali multinational corporations to compete on a global scale.

• Shift from industrial to high-value production (pharmaceuticals, AI, robotics, aviation).

• Finalize energy independence via renewables, nuclear, and advanced energy technologies.

• Strengthen global economic alliances, including entry into G20 and leading global institutions.

2. Hyper-Urbanization & Social Development

• Build modern high-tech cities modeled after Singapore and Dubai.

• Implement universal healthcare, education, and welfare to match first-world living standards.

• Develop public transportation networks including metro systems and high-speed rail.

🚀 Goal: Somalia becomes Africa’s wealthiest and most advanced country, with GDP exceeding $500 billion and per capita income reaching $20,000+.

Final Vision: Somalia as a Hyper-Nationalist, Eco-Industrial Superpower

🔹 A unified, nationalist Somali identity with zero clan-based divisions. �� A leading global economy, driven by manufacturing, trade, and high-tech industries. 🔹 A self-sufficient, militarily strong nation with full economic sovereignty. 🔹 A green, reforested country leading in sustainable development. 🔹 A neutral but strategically influential country with strong Somali kinship ties abroad.

With super nationalism, economic discipline, and aggressive modernization, Somalia can surpass Africa and rival global powers within two decades.

That number is based off of the number of daycares that list Somali as an official language. However, if you look at this list, most of them do not list an official language (similar to how many of them don't have a home address) but very clearly have almost identical names to daycare centers that do have Somali as an official language, usually just someone's name.

Check out the list here, this is within 10 miles of Burien, one of the larger population centers of the Somali community: day care list.

Of the first 50 I looked through of the 1,000+ entries, 49 of them appear to be Somali owned but only 17 of them list Somali as the official language. Just look at the list yourself.

Hi. So I'm a westerner with no real concept of the third world. I came across a recent statistic that showed that Somalia has a 20%+ unemployment rate. Yet the life expectancy is 56 years old. I'm curious how Somalians can live so long with such a high unemployment rate. How do most people make their living then? Do jobs even exist? What do people do to feed themselves and afford rent? Sorry for the ignorant questions I'm just very sheltered but curious as to the realities of the third world.

Are most Somalians still happy and content with life? Or are most depressed and suicidal due to grim prospects?

It’s beautiful how open and friendly somalis are to each other, specially in foreign countries. It is something i love about somalis. I have been to many countries and saw many cultures, but the somali one is rare. Everywhere i went I always found that one person who is willing to help with anything. I hope this part of humanity stays. And kindness and love is spread regardless of someone qabil. I’m ethnically somali but culturally, i wish i was. Eid mubark.

How much of an impact do people think Somali Childcare and Healthcare fraud have impacted WA State?

It is not unfair to say that this particular group’s % of resource consumption FAR outpaces their population demographic.

There is real concern that this fraud has been going on for decades in the Midwest and has now been franchised to other parts of the country. Maxed Campaign funds for local politicians in the SEATAC area originating from fraudulent child care and health centers in Minnesota are a real concern. Then you look at Google listings for Somali-affiliated child care centers in the 518/405/5 interchange area where the street view is an empty lot and the listed phone has been disconnected and people start asking questions….

So how deep do we think this goes? Seattle-Tacoma has the nation’s third largest Somali immigrant population behind MSP and Columbus, OH.

https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_9cccffda-f6cf-4bac-9093-caf1ac57d27a.amp.html

I'm trying to understand the liberal perspective on this without any gotchas...

The Minnesota fraud scandals have been huge news lately: federal prosecutors estimate potentially $9B+ stolen from 14 state-run programs since 2018 (half or more of the $18B disbursed), including child nutrition (Feeding Our Future), child care assistance (CCAP with "ghost" centers), autism services, and housing programs. Dozens of centers billed for non-existent services, with funds allegedly going to luxury cars, homes, overseas properties, etc.Examples that stand out: "Quality Learing Center" (sign misspells "learning", are you kidding) in Minneapolis: millions in subsidies despite 95+ violations, empty during visits, blacked-out. Fruad. actual, measureable, fruad.

Nationally, improper payments/fraud in federal programs hit $162B in FY2024, with child care and welfare vulnerabilities in states like Illinois, California, etc.—not just Minnesota.

Critics (across parties) blame weak oversight, self-reporting loopholes, and pandemic waivers. Gov. Walz has implemented fixes (e.g., fraud unit, payment stops), and there's bipartisan pushback now.

But why doesn't this level of direct taxpayer theft (billions vanishing while programs meant for vulnerable kids/families get exploited) spark the same intense outrage/protests on the left as, say, corporate subsidies, billionaire loopholes, or environmental issues?

Is it seen as isolated/systemic but fixable without slashing programs?

Or more a failure of administration than the programs themselves?

Do liberals view this as worth aggressive reforms (tighter verification, cuts to risky providers) to protect social safety nets? Or is the bigger priority preserving access for those who need it, even with some waste?Thanks for thoughtful responses!

Update: I also just read that after this dude was found guilty, the judge overturned the results. Come on?!?

Hi everyone,

Can anybody explain to me the intricacies of the fraud case in Minnesota as I’m very confused about the indictment itself I just watched a news report with face the nation and Ilhan was explaining her side and she said she had reported to the secretary of EGG i’m not sure what that acronym stands for but the news reporter when interviewing Ilhan said out of the 80 people in the indictment only 8 people were Somali also someone I know told me it wasn’t billions that was siphoned it was roughly around $250 million and the head of the welfare program was apparently a white woman which begs the question what happened to her afterwards?