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Blind
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PIP in Amazon | Layoffs - Blind
February 1, 2025 - If your manager plans to PIP you on December 1, taking FMLA on November 1, you lose 1 month of full salary, so, simply wait for Dec 1 unless you really can't stand Amazon no more, or unless you already have a 2x offer from another company. TIMING 2: Pivot: after you get the PDF with the Pivot Entry, you have a few days to decide whether you want to take severance or improve.
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Reddit
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r/amazonemployees on Reddit: Another pip story
July 24, 2025 -

I was placed on Focus during the OLR cycle. I didn’t agree with the reasoning behind it, but I chose to follow the plan laid out for me in hopes of exiting Focus. I stayed late at the office, delivered everything according to the plan without delays, and even completed some tasks ahead of schedule. I worked with multiple teams and stakeholders, shipped meaningful features, and genuinely felt proud of what I accomplished. Still, I wasn’t taken off Focus—instead, it got extended. During the extension period, I hit the goals I was given again. But at the end of the extension, I was told I’d be moved to Pivot. From my perspective, this transition to Pivot felt largely unjustified. I realized I was being penalized for very minor issues—things that felt more like excuses than real concerns. In hindsight, I’ve come to believe that my manager was never on my side. It seems like I was simply part of some performance quota they needed to fulfill. It wasn’t a fair fight, and I now see that there was likely no outcome where I could have succeeded. I wasn’t being evaluated for growth—I was just helping someone meet a metric.

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The clever ones use this period as paid interview prep. I applaud you genuine effort. I would have simply coasted collected pip severance and a nice fact fat signing bonus. Use the system to your advantage. There was a blind thread about how you navigate this atrocity of forced quota by making them pay you more to prepare for a better hike. Consider it as karmic payment in the form of money for the atrocity they committed. This is not entitlement. Entitlement is asking money without doing anything. You did your part. Thier system failed you so you deserve to be compensated for this.
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There is a target URA quota for each org. So yes, you are being used to hit a required metric for your org, and yes, it is very likely that there is nothing you could have done to succeed (on a performance basis) once your name was assigned to the "least effective" bucket in the OLR cycle. It sucks, but it's the devil's deal of Amazon - great comp often coupled with cool projects and good scope, but tethered to a draconian performance management system that requires yearly sacrifices to appease the core company principle that employees are best motivated by fear. My advice - take any lessons away from this that you can, it's always possible to perform better or be more politically savvy in a job. But don't try to make sense of your specific situation or beat yourself up about minor mistakes or things that were undoubtedly out of your control. You made a genuine effort to address the (likely inflated) performance concerns, and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how much greener the grass is after you land somewhere else.
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I worked in Amazon HR and was disgusted at what I was seeing with PIP plans
There are industries & companies that have grown fat & lazy and could use a few annual 6% culls, but you eventually run out of fat. If you have a very competitive interview process and high compensation to attract the best talent, it is unlikely you have so many underperformers lying about ... More on news.ycombinator.com
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Amazon Severance package
Here's the formula they use for Pivot tier one severance: 10 weeks of base pay +( basepay* 1%) * (tenure in months /12). Example, for calculating it with a $95k base and 2 year tenure: $95k/52 = $1826 $1826*10= $18,269 Then 95k x 1% = $950 Tenure 24 mo / 12 = 2 $950 x 2 = $1900 You get $18,269 + $1,900 = $19,219 My pivot payment was $34k, and that was with 7 yrs tenure @ $135k base; so the math checks out with the above example. More on reddit.com
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Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talked about PIPs
I’m surprised anyone is crazy enough to try to work through a pip. They give you the choice of trying to work through an impossible, subjective list of requirements or take a severance that’s one month severance for each year you worked there + the partial year or “leave Amazon” · ... More on news.ycombinator.com
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PIP or Severance Pay

If you have been slacking, stay and work hard if you want. If you’ve been working hard and you got put on pip…you are extremely unlikely to pass.

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Grapevine
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How realistic is it to survive a PIP at Amazon India? - Grapevine
November 9, 2023 - The universal rule says that if you are in Amazon’s pip, your time has come. People usually starts searching outside. Blind will give you an better idea.
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I worked in Amazon HR and was disgusted at what I was seeing with PIP plans | Hacker News
December 8, 2023 - There are industries & companies that have grown fat & lazy and could use a few annual 6% culls, but you eventually run out of fat. If you have a very competitive interview process and high compensation to attract the best talent, it is unlikely you have so many underperformers lying about ...
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Amazon's PIP - Lessons from 75+ clients
July 9, 2023 - If you read the posts on Blind, you’ll often hear that Amazon managers are forced to put 12% of their team on Focus and 6% on PIP each year regardless of how well everyone is performing.
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Quora
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Amazon is trying to manage my client out with a severance package due to his vision impairment. What is your advice? - Quora
Answer (1 of 2): Well, is his vision impairment negatively impacting his performing his work duties? If he cannot perform his job at an acceptable level due to this, then that really isnt fair to his employer and his coworkers as well. So maybe the severance package you mentioned, might be a fair...
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Amazon PIP: What is It & What to Do — ManageBetter
March 20, 2025 - It is difficult to survive, and sometimes you’re offered severance before the formal PIP even occurs. PIPs document specific tasks, projects, and behaviors that the employee must achieve with clear deadlines. If employees do not meet these expectations by that date, the employee is typically let go from the job. Here’s an example of what performance improvement plans look like. About 10% of Amazonians receive a PIP.
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amazon severance Discussions - Blind
My partner worked at Amazon and took the voluntary severance offer. It was approved and her last day was the 16th. She still has not been paid her last paycheck or any severance at all. Is this normal? #severance #layoff ... Hi i was Kept in PIP and so I took the severance package and left the company.
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Amazon shut down a Slack channel where 2k employees talked about PIPs | Hacker News
July 23, 2023 - I’m surprised anyone is crazy enough to try to work through a pip. They give you the choice of trying to work through an impossible, subjective list of requirements or take a severance that’s one month severance for each year you worked there + the partial year or “leave Amazon” · ...
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Amazon PIP and Pivot Severance Package Q&A | Expert Advice
Customer: I just received notice from employer (Amazon) that I am on a Pivot Plan and have two options: 1) Leave Amazon (current tenure is 7.5 months) and receive $33k (~2 mos gross pay) or 2) Improve and deliver ~ 5 major deliverables over the next 4 weeks (this is similar to the Coaching Plan I was on in Dec. that I completed successfully but my boss claimed I didn't). If I improve and 'fail' I can get $12k if I leave. If I improve and 'fail' and appeal and lose I can get $6 if I leave. QUESTION: Can I negotiate a higher severance if I am leaning towards Option 1?
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Amazon PIP T1 Severance formula | Tech Industry - Blind
October 15, 2024 - So sharing a separate post, if helpful. Severance at end of focus (before entering PIP) is 10 weeks of base pay + (1% of base pay x months of service / 12). This loosely comes to 3-9 months base pay for most amazonians.
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TikTok
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Amazon Pip Severance Package 2024 | TikTok
July 28, 2025 - Explore Amazon's 2024 severance package details, including insights on the PIP process and employee experiences that can impact your career.See more videos about Amazon Pip Severance Package, Amazon Severance Pay 2025, Amazon Package Update 2025, Amazon Papağanı Fiyat 2025, Amazon Dropshipping ...
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Teller & Associates
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Amazon Pivot Program Lawyer – Representation for Employees Facing Performance Measures
January 6, 2022 - Voluntary Resignation with Severance: Employees can choose to resign and receive a severance package.​ · Performance Improvement Plan (PIP): Employees commit to meeting specific performance goals within a set timeframe.
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r/cscareerquestions on Reddit: PIP or Severance Pay
February 2, 2022 -

I was recently told that I was put on a 60 days PIP however was given a choice for a 7.8k severance with additional 2 month pay on top of my unused vacation days.

My manager said that if I take the pip, I will not be qualified for this particular severance package if I fail. She said there might still be another severance pay if I fail PIP, but it wont be as big and isn't 100% sure. She said, PIP is not the end and I could pass it if I do well which will allow me to stay. What should I choose?

Will I still be eligible for unemployment benefits?

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Regarding Amazon PIP(Performance Improvement Plan) | Software Engineering Career - Blind
November 1, 2022 - I heard different opinions, Will every person in PIP(Level 4 SDE'S) get the same severance package or is it depending on the org?
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Amazon PIP Severance Amount? | Software Engineering Career - Blind
Say you get a PIP offer.... how much is the payout? I’ve heard it’s 1 week of salary for every year of tenure, with minimum of 1 month. Is that true? Can’t find the real numbers anywhere. In the example I gave, it doesn’t change until you hit your ...
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Amazon's performance improvement programs
$5Kin severance. An Amazon employee is labeled as · an underperformer by their manager. They are enrolled in the ‘Focus’ program. The program coaches staff on how to improve. Employees have criticized the system. If employees improve, If managers aren’t satisfied, they exit Focus and ...