Are the details of the renumeration of how many months that the amazon is liable to pay to employee as a part of severance, not mentioned in the terms of employment? or is not informed at all beforehand?
I was placed on Focus during the OLR cycle. I didn’t agree with the reasoning behind it, but I chose to follow the plan laid out for me in hopes of exiting Focus. I stayed late at the office, delivered everything according to the plan without delays, and even completed some tasks ahead of schedule. I worked with multiple teams and stakeholders, shipped meaningful features, and genuinely felt proud of what I accomplished. Still, I wasn’t taken off Focus—instead, it got extended. During the extension period, I hit the goals I was given again. But at the end of the extension, I was told I’d be moved to Pivot. From my perspective, this transition to Pivot felt largely unjustified. I realized I was being penalized for very minor issues—things that felt more like excuses than real concerns. In hindsight, I’ve come to believe that my manager was never on my side. It seems like I was simply part of some performance quota they needed to fulfill. It wasn’t a fair fight, and I now see that there was likely no outcome where I could have succeeded. I wasn’t being evaluated for growth—I was just helping someone meet a metric.
Is there anyone here who recently went through the pivot/PIP process and was offered the payout?
Can you drop in your base salary, tenure, and the amount they offered you?
Trying to calculate how much I’ll get when the inevitable happens :)
UPDATE - Already in the comments but bringing up here. Thank you u/MrHaVoC805!
Payout = 10 weeks of base pay + (basepay * 1%) * (tenure in months /12)
My example
Pivot Payment - Pre-Tax: $24,495.63
Base Annual: $88,600
Tenure: 8.42 years (101 months)
$88,600/52 = $1,703.85
$1,703.85 * 10 = $17,038.46
$88,600 x 0.01 = $886
$24,495.63 = $17,038.46 + ($886 x (101/12))
After taxes, I ended up with closer to $17.5k (absolute robbery) but that of course depends on your own tax deductions.
4 year tenure. $160K base salary. I know the calculation for PIP severance. Wondering what the severance would be for layoff
just got notified yesterday that ive been put on pip. i started amazon late 2023 as a new grad with a broken team that was brand new, 4 engineers in total (however 2 were m.i.a. and on leave, and the other was just way too busy) both my manager and skip manager quit within the first few months, reasons including my skip skip manager, which eventually became my new manager. since the team was new, there wasnt much built and strong lack of documentation. the new manager was pretty absent for a couple months, and all of a sudden started really investing time into the team. during this time i got assigned a project that was proposed to be small, but ended up taking me 6 months. i got put on pip because i missed the deadline (but with good reason), and lack of communication/updates (despite me becoming more communicative these past couple of weeks because he raised concern, manager even brought up not sending things when... i literally did). the pip expectations are quite hefty -- i do think i can do them, but at what cost? ive been working 9 am - 12 am almost everyday the past month, including weekends occasionally to finish my project (with no support from my team, despite requesting). ive experienced so much mental stress and pain, including health issues from the pressure recently. i admit i had a slow start, but i genuinely believe i did the best i could with the circumstances i was given.
i want to take the severance, but is it a good idea? especially with this job market? would i even be able to apply for sde 2 roles or do i just resort to sde 1. even if i do take pip, will i be considered for promotion ever?
I recently got an offer for AMZN. Haven't started to discuss compensation yet, but the job sounds like a dream come true.
The manager says she has changed the team's work/life balance to that of a healthy 40hr/week max and any extra work over that is returned to you as unofficial PTO. Fully remote. Quarterly meetups where employees are flown in to discuss quarterly plans. Whole nine yards.
I was discussing the company and offer with a few friends of mine who brought up that the company does a few things that are red flags to me, but I'd like confirmation that the statements are true.
Do they really let go of their bottom 5% each quarter? Do they really use Performance Improvement Plans (PIPs) to punish people for things as petty as trying to switch teams? Is it really that toxic of a place?
If the above is true, should I just use this as a means to increase my pay at my current employer? If so, how exactly would I go about that? I've never been in a situation like this where I have an offer at the same time as a place I'm already happy with.
Does anyone in here have experience getting put on PiP, Fired or getting severance as an L4 A.M? Was it due to a specific situation or something over time? What department were you in? Did you see it coming or were you blindsided?
What happens if you don’t sign? I understand if you sign you’re not allowed to work at Amazon for five years but what happens if you don’t sign and just walk out?
I signed the severance offer 2.5 weeks ago. My termination date was 1.5 weeks ago. When can I expect to get the severance payout?
Also where can I access the PIP severance offer document that I signed. I do not see it in the alum.docs.amazon.com page.
I was recently told that I was put on a 60 days PIP however was given a choice for a 7.8k severance with additional 2 month pay on top of my unused vacation days.
My manager said that if I take the pip, I will not be qualified for this particular severance package if I fail. She said there might still be another severance pay if I fail PIP, but it wont be as big and isn't 100% sure. She said, PIP is not the end and I could pass it if I do well which will allow me to stay. What should I choose?
Will I still be eligible for unemployment benefits?