The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad. Answer from YardEnvironmental127 on reddit.com
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January 20, 2025 -
So Fiyero in the musical does in fact end up being The Scarecrow. But what led to Elphie thinking he was The Scarecrow in the book? Maybe I'm missing something, but the line of reasoning seemed to come out of nowhere. I've yet to read the sequels.
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The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad.
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It's a combination of things, really. It's not so much one thing as it is the culmination of everything she's suffered in the years since his death. As mentioned below, Elphaba experimented with the Wizard's elixir to dream about the other world like Nanny said her mother did. After experiencing nightmares from it, though, she slowly stopped sleeping entirely to avoid them. She's always been a conspiracy theorist, but in the years following Dr. Dillamond's and Ama Clutch's deaths, she slowly went off the deep end and began developing paranoia. After seeing the scarecrow talismans after she came to visit Munchkinland again, she began to develop a suspicion around scarecrows in general. Elphie's later years were later spent trying and failing to atone for her affair with Fiyero (first with the Maunts, and later on with Sarima in Kiamo Ko) as her involvement with him is what led to his death. Despite becoming friends with his widow and making Kiamo Ko her home, because Sarima essentially forbade her from confessing what she had done, Elphie spent those years being tormented by guilt and a lack of closure. This, of course, never got resolved for her because Sarima, her sisters, and two of her children ended up dead and his only daughter was taken as a hostage by the Wizard and enslaved. After being haunted by her guilt for well over a decade at this point, she sprung at the chance to make up a sleep-deprivation fantasy about him being alive and well - because she wouldn't need to gain forgiveness if she didn't cause his death in the first place. Liir mentioned right before Dorothy's arrival that his heart's desire was to have a father, which Elphie believes was Fiyero because at this point she is more or less convinced that she was his biological mother. For all her abrasiveness in her later years, Elphie does love Liir, knows how much he longs for a paternal figure, and envisioned Fiyero as the Scarecrow in part because she badly wanted to give him the father he never had. At this point in her life, Elphaba's just... lonely, man. She's lost almost everyone she's ever loved, through either death or perceived betrayal. Dr. Dillamond's Nessa's dead, Sarima's dead, her father's never going to love her like he loved Nessa and the shoes that represented his love have been taken by some random child, Glinda gave said child the shoes even though she knew Elphaba was hurt by them decades ago, and Boq was afraid of her after Madame Morrible. She still had Nanny and Liir, yes, but they didn't understand her like those others did. They see her at her worst, her most crotchety, while knowing nothing of what she's been through. And yes, while she does have her familiars, they can't talk with her, no matter how much she tried to teach them. At the height of her mania, she simply wanted to not be alone anymore. In short, sad reasons. Many, many sad reasons.
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6 days ago - It is left to the reader of the novel to decide if the Scarecrow is indeed Fiyero or not (Coincidentally, in the musical based on the novel, the Scarecrow is indeed Fiyero who was transformed into the Scarecrow by Elphaba to save his life).
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September 24, 2025 - Fiyero is Scarecrow — a.k.a. ... to be superfluous and unintelligent. The Scarecrow is seen in the final trailer for Wicked: For Good that dropped in September 2025, featuring Dorothy’s entire crew....
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November 24, 2025 - The Scarecrow is none other than Fiyero himself! He is turned into the Scarecrow by Elphaba's spell in "No Good Deed" in which she tries to protect him after he is taken away from the Wizard's guards for protecting Elphaba.
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November 26, 2025 - In Wicked: For Good, the Scarecrow is a human, Fiyero (Jonathan Bailey), who was transformed by Elphaba’s magic.
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One of the lasting scenes in Wicked: For Good occurs when Fiyero makes his triumphant return, is revealed as the Scarecrow, and opens the trap door to reveal Elphaba so they can finally be together.
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November 21, 2025 -
In the wizard of Oz, the scarecrow has no brain and doesn't know how to walk. So did fiyero pretend to Dorothy that he was dumb and go along with all the events? Does anyone know what I mean?
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One possible explanation for his difficulty walking is that he had to relearn how to do it without having muscles or a skeleton. Also, Fiyero has no difficulty playing "brainless" when he wants to.
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they do show him struggling to walk throughout the movie after the transformation
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r/wickedmovie on Reddit: Is Fiyero was the scarecrow, why did he join forces with Dorothy?
December 2, 2025 -
Okay one thing that I find confusing in for good was Fiyero cause of course we all know he turned into a scarecrow thanks to Elphaba’s spell but I’m wondering, why did he join forces with Dorothy if he knew that he’s gonna be fleeing away with Elphaba in the end of the movie?
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It is speculated that it's to keep Elphaba safe. The idea of using water to melt her is commonly believed by people in Oz, but he knows it's fake. He has some inside influence and information with those who want her dead.
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Maybe it was Dorothy who got him down from the pole. And he must have thought following her to the castle was the best way to get back to Elphaba.
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November 29, 2024 - As this was only part one of the story, many fans have wondered who becomes the Lion, Tin Man, and Scarecrow as seen at the beginning of the film from The Wizard of Oz. More specifically, what will happen to Jonathan Bailey's Fiyero, based on the musical, in Wicked Part Two on November 21, 2025? ... Elphaba’s transformation of Fiyero into the Scarecrow in Wicked is one of the musical’s most poignant moments, giving viewers a look at her complex relationship with magic and the unintended consequences of her actions. During the song "No Good Deed" in Act 2, Elphaba casts a spell to protect Fiyero from torture and death at the hands of the Wizard’s guards.
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November 24, 2025 - While the spell ultimately worked and spared Fiyero an untimely death in a cornfield at the hands of the Wizard's guards, his entire body was turned to straw, giving fans the indelible image of Wicked: For Good's version of the iconic Scarecrow.
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November 21, 2025 - But that's all for show. The film concludes with Fiyero opening a trap door in the castle and revealing Elphaba is alive and well. "Fiyero?" Elphaba seems to ask as she looks upon him in Scarecrow form for the first time since she transformed the Winkie prince to save his life.
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r/wicked on Reddit: 'Wicked: For Good' director reveals [SPOILERS] that explains surprise ending
November 22, 2025 -
So according to this article, similar to the note Elphaba receives in the musical, the piece of clothing Chistery gave her also had a message on it from Fiyero. Which is why she knew to wait for him. And how he knew she was still alive.
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I immediately assumed there was a message on the piece of clothing, judging by the expressions of Chistery and Elphaba. Whoever animated Chistery did a great job with his facial expressions
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I still wish it was a bit more clear. At least in theatre when you gotta act for the back rows you know there’s a letter. I think as Scarecrow walked toward the trap door, there should have been an opening shot of his feet as he approaches, and passes by a soaked remnant of the message. Doesn’t need to be as long as the contents of the letter since you want viewers to see it quick, something short like “I’m alive and I’m on my way. Find somewhere to hide!”
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August 13, 2024 - In the books, fiyero is ACTUALLY dead, he isn’t the scarecrow and elpheba doesn’t fake her death, she actually melts and dies. ... Oh really? Sorry I didn’t know. I searched it up and it said that elpheba was definitely dead and melted at the end of the wicked book
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6 days ago - Unbeknownst to her, the spell had transformed Fiyero into a Scarecrow, saving his life. Convinced, however, that Fiyero is dead or on the verge of death, she embraces the wickedness within herself, declaring that she will never do a good deed again.