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I skipped the mats as well and built a small platform bed. Be aware the futon mattress are pretty heavy for their size. I still like it lots, although its a queen size and never gets put up, its still beats mattress/spring/ lumps/ frames, etc. Answer from Bubsntina4eva on reddit.com
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Shikibutons & Tatamis - Futon d'or - Natural mattresses
Discover our products, made with traditional Japanese craftsmanship and designed for durability. The Shikibuton Japanese futon is a traditional bed usually used on tatamis and folded during the day to be stored. The cotton compresses over time and offers a firm comfort.
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Futon Beds from Japan
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Do I need Tatami Mats? What Should Go Under My Futon? | FutonBedsFromJapan.com Customer Reviews & Blog
Although they're much better than carpet over cement or a wooden floor, tatami are still quite firm and don't add a lot of extra cushioning value. For this reason many people here in Japan may use a roughly 5 cm (2 inch) trifold cloth covered foam pad underneath their shikibuton.
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Japan Objects
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Choosing the Best Japanese Futon: 20 Things to Know
November 9, 2023 - A shikibuton is placed directly on the tatami mat or floor surface.
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Tatami mat and futon recommendations?

I skipped the mats as well and built a small platform bed. Be aware the futon mattress are pretty heavy for their size. I still like it lots, although its a queen size and never gets put up, its still beats mattress/spring/ lumps/ frames, etc.

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[lifestyle] Do you sleep on a shikibuton?

I sleep on a korean yo, which is similar to a shikibuton, but a bit thinner. I live in a small apartment and love having the ability to pack my bed away and have that extra space during the day. It took a little adaptation, but sleeping on a firm surface is now quite comfortable, but not so much so that I'm tempted to sleep in.

I put it directly on a hardwood floor and haven't had any trouble with mold, moisture, or dust, but I do fold it up and put it away most mornings. Leaving it on the floor or another solid surface for a long time would probably lead to the problems you mention.

Since having that floor space is the main attraction for futon-style sleeping, I haven't looked into bedframes. I would think that a slatted bedframe would work as long as the slats were fairly close together. You may also be able to buy tatami bedframes that provide the cushioning and airflow of the traditional tatami mat but with a little elevation.

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Tatami mat alternatives for shikibuton
Could you perhaps tell me what futon you got? I am currently thinking of getting rid of my bed for a Japanese futon to make space. I could order off of Amazon but I'm in Canada so I guess I'd have to buckle down and pay some shipping... I heard they were tough sleeps though I guess you haven't experienced it. More on reddit.com
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Seeking a good Shikibuton & Tatami Table.
Check this out. They are on etsy and ships directly from Japan. https://futontokyo.com/ More on reddit.com
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Alternative to tatami mat for a Japanese style futon? - tatamimat sleeping | Ask MetaFilter
April 23, 2021 - Hi all. I'm moving into a new place with vinyl flooring, and I'm looking into getting a Japanese-style futon to sleep on. Basically, a shikibuton. I've used them in the past on carpeting, and I...
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Futons Japan
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Do I need a Tatami mat for my futon - Futons Japan
August 4, 2022 - Do I need a Tatami with my Futon ยท The quick answer is no. This is one of the most common questions that people have about switching their bedding to a Japanese Shikibuton or in English a Futon [https://www.futonsjapan.com/index.php/futons] Traditionally tatami mats are used as Japanese flooring and are quite comfortable, being generally made from rice straw or some of the more modern version can use newer material like foam, rubber, soft plastic or a combination of all 3.
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Shikibuton - The Traditional Japanese Futon ...
December 31, 2024 - In Japan, these simple mattresses ... Style: Japan, a shikibuton is usually laid out on the floor atop a straw mat called a tatami and covered with a goose feather duvet and pillows....
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A Complete Guide to the Japanese Sleep System โ€“ J-Life International
August 26, 2019 - Tatamis make the floor more comfortable, and also serve as a breathability and moisture barrier between the futon mattress and the floor. Most modern Tatami mats have a built-in moisture resistant layer.. The second component in the Japanese sleep system is the shikifuton (or shikibuton).
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Enjoy sleeping on Futon laid directly on Tatami mats - Japanese Tatami Room
August 21, 2020 - Guests staying at Japanese inns, whose rooms are designed in the Japanese style, will have the opportunity to enjoy sleeping on mattresses( Shikibuton ) laid directly on Tatami mats.
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Need Underlay and Topper ? | Futon Tokyo
May 21, 2021 - If you find the bottom of the shikifuton is very damp in the morning, itโ€™s because the floor is so tight that futon canโ€™t breathe. Please use tatami mat or rug for releasing humid air that is produced from your body during the night.
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Buying a Tatami Mat: The Guide on Purchasing Your First Tatami Mat | bedlyft
April 12, 2024 - The popular arrangement of a Japanese bed is: Tatami mats are at the bottom, a thin foam pad as an extra layer, and a Japanese futon (shikibuton).
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r/minimalism on Reddit: [lifestyle] Do you sleep on a shikibuton?
December 31, 2014 -

If so, and if you live in the West, how did you adapt it to work in your bedroom?

Some people put their tatami on the floor, but I've read that in Japan the floors are actually elevated, allowing for airflow. I'd assume that in a Western home the tatami would gather mold , and not to mention dust.

I'm trying to find a bedframe that would fit the tatami I want, but so far it's proving too difficult. (I'm in Canada, btw)

Unless anyone's found a way to make it work without a frame?

Regardless, I'd like to know who here sleeps on a traditional Japanese futon , why you do it, and how you set it up.

Thanks!

edit: Expensive and apparently can't be shipped to Canada, but god dayum these are perfect http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/emoorbaby/item/az-ewb005-sd/

http://global.rakuten.com/en/store/emoorbaby/item/tf-sob1401/?s-id=borderless_browsehist_en

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The Futon Shop
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Japanese Tatami Bed Without Tatami Mats in Natural Stain
Throughout most of Japanese culture. In Japanese homes the floor itself would be made of wood. The tatami mats would serve a particular purpose such as sofa bed seating, in the living rooms of the well-to-do.
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Traditional Japanese Futon โ€“ All You Need to Know - QUESTION JAPAN
December 18, 2020 - The answer to that question is ... and was placed on the ground or on a tatami mat. The parts include the shikibuton โ€“ the mattress; the kakebuton โ€“ the comforter; and a pillow โ€“ called makura....
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NYTimes
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The Absolute Best Bed: A Japanese Futon | Wirecutter
February 19, 2024 - Unlike the sofa beds called โ€œfutonsโ€ in the US, Japanese futons are quilted sleeping pads that are stuffed with cotton or fiber fill and can sit directly on the floor or on a foam, tatami, or wooden mat.