Preferably 6800U because I want good battery life, but if a 6800H has comparable battery life I’ll consider it as well.
So far I’ve looked at:
Zenbook S13 OLED
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lack of USB-A is annoying because I need to use it a lot for engineering
Yoga 7 Gen 7
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instability and keyboard lag
ThinkPad X13 Gen 3
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only 300 nits screen
Slim 7 ProX
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again instability
The Yoga 7 looks like the best option if it wasn’t for the bugs.
Does anyone have more recommendations?
After getting a small Drawing Display (XP-Pen Pro 13.3 or something, forgot the name, does require an HDMI and 2x USB Ports though) I think I rather just shift back to regular laptops at this point with that display because it's more likely I find a more reliable laptop with a better keyboard and such.
But that's when I noticed something glaring, the lack of 32 GB configurations (and lack of 64 GB configs though I don't need to go that far, some might) when it came to the Ryzen 6000 series. For one, modern games use substantial amounts of RAM and that RAM with an integrated GPU setup is sharing the RAM between the iGPU and CPU.
I know people are gonna say, "DDR5 is expensive/not cheap", which is correct, DDR4 is far cheaper in comparison (bought 64 GB of RAM for my home server for $150!), but these laptops with 16 GB setups are already not cheap, might as well go a little extra for 32 GB (like $300 more maybe tops?).
I wonder if it's just better to find a laptop with a dGPU at this point now too but I have to make sure it works well with Linux too which isn't always the case with dGPU setups. I feel like having these Ryzen 6000 APUs would make a great balance of performance and battery life since dGPU laptops tend to have worse battery life but some laptops can disable the dGPU so idk.
One thing is certain, moving out of the 2-in-1 space (and using the XP-Pen Drawing Monitor) really opens the large list of options for me. Another thing is given that there still are not that many Ryzen 6000 Series laptops I could very well be speaking too soon. Not sure if there are benefits to getting PRO CPUs over the regular SKUs or if it's bad.
There definitely are Ryzen 6000 systems with high RAM configs, such as the latest Alienwares and Legions. Even some upcoming 6800U handhelds will offer a 32GB option. Definitely shop around a little if you need a high RAM config.
Not sure if there are benefits to getting PRO CPUs over the regular SKUs or if it's bad.
Those add additional enterprise level security features, chances are you don't need them
UPDATE: I did find some 32 GB RAM configurations on a Lenovo Thinkpad T14 Gen3 on their website.
You might have already seen my post on r/linuxhardware.
I have been using a Lenovo ThinkPad P16s for the past few weeks. It's a stop spec model with Ryzen 7 PRO 6850U, 32 GB RAM, 1600p display, 86 Wh battery and 512 GB Nvme Gen 4 Performance SSD. While I loved a ton of things about this new machine, I have had a series of serious, deal-breaking issues with it. It's a Linux certified machine sold preloaded with Ubuntu and Fedora. I am running the Fedora 37 release.
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Random freezes. I have had various freezes of unknown nature that would make my PC completely unusable and often force me to force a hard reboot in order to keep using the PC. They do not happen everyday, but they happen often enough to be annoying for sure. One of those freezes seems to be related to a documented
amdgpubug in the Radeon 680M graphics that a lot of people are experiencing. This left me baffled: I do not mean to sound inflammatory, but I just want to note that, while the community is giving Alder Lake laptop platform a ton of crap for some iGPU freezing issues, Ryzen 6000 seems to get a pass. Why? I dislike Intel as much as the next guy, but a freeze is a freeze. -
Random flickering and artifacts. Completely at random, the screen will flicker and go on and off very rapidly as you are moving the cursor. Very often, a thick white and black horizontal line briefly appears on the display after some types of mouse and keyboard input on the computer.
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Erratic Wi-Fi performance on soldered network card. The preloaded Qualcomm QCNFA725 wireless card has various issues. First, it's soldered, which means it cannot be upgraded to a much stabler Intel unit. Second, it's not technically supported by Linux. The Qualcomm QCNFA725 is a Wi-Fi 6e card. Unfortunately, that is not what
lspcireports, but rather, it reports a Qualcomm QCNFA765 card, for which it is loading the incorrect firmware (because the alternative would be having no wi-fi and bluetooth at all). These are completely different cards: the former is a Wi-Fi 6e card, while the second is a regular Wi-Fi 6 card. The aftermath is that Wi-Fi 6e is not available on Linux (not a big issue IMHO), and that the card seems to be completely unstable. If you use it briefly, it looks very good: reception is way above average for sure, signal is always much stronger than on other cards. The same cannot be said for speeds: the download speed is very erratic! It keeps fluctuating and, on various networks, I have seen it dip as low as 1 Mbps or 10 Mbps when it should have been running at 250 / 300 Mbps. All other devices connected to the network did not seem to have this problem. Also, there are some instances where it does not recover and it requires a full reboot to get back to reasonable speeds. It's noticeable because downloads slow down and pages load very slowly. I have narrowed the issue down to the card slowing down while it's Wi-Fi scanning: turning off BSSID autodetection and selecting one manually for debugging purposes made the card go back to normal behaviour - consistent speeds, and upload slower than download (while it would have 2.74 Mbps down / 280 Mbps up and something like that otherwise). This is the symptom of a very low quality card. Of course, I have mostly had this issue in uni rather than at home - since the vast network needs to cover several buildings, there are various BSSID's to pick between, and the laptop's WLAN adapter is expected to select the best one for the current spot and seamlessly switching between them as you move between buildings. These Wi-Fi scans seem to tank performance, which is simply no concern on Intel AX cards. What's most offensive is that the card is soldered down to the motherboard, so it cannot be replaced - live with unstable connection or without BSSID autodetection, both equally annoying. Your pick: but if it's not a stay-at-home laptop, this is a deal-breaker. Another bad sign that isn't a deal breaker is that Bluetooth takes several seconds to activate and deactivate. Okay sure this is nitpicking, but Intel cards don't do this. -
Suspend bugs. Modern Standby has not treated me too well. Sometimes the device fails to standby, I've had instances where the Bluetooth radio would try to pair to things while sleeping, and I've also had instances where I pulled my "sleeping" laptop out of my backpack, finding it warmer than it should have been. Don't even bother with forcing S3 Sleep on, it's known to break resume. Also, when coming out of standby on battery, the ACPI power profile stays stuck on Power Saver and there seems to be no way to reliably revert it to Balanced or Performance while staying on battery short of a full reboot.
What can I say? I really wanted to love this laptop. The screen is impressive. Hands down the best display I have ever looked at. It will be sorely missed. Text clarity is amazing, color accuracy puts my €400 Dell S2721QS 4k monitor back in its place (!!! a dedicated external 4k monitor mind you), and even at 50% brightness, the backlight luminance is definitely brighter than my future. What more to add? Build quality is simply amazing, the laptop opens with one hand, typing is a joy on this thing, it has plenty of ports, performance is simply mind blowing - especially 3D iGPU performance, and power efficiency is exemplary: it's very hard to empty this battery.
Alas, this laptop has failed at much more basic and fundamental prerequisites: basic stability. I don't care how nice it looks or how fast it is, if I can't trust my computer enough to go in a meeting with it because it might freeze and force me out or if working outside of my bedroom on a great, fast wi-fi network that works well on every other device causes constant grief and slowdowns, this alone really ruins the experience. I am returning the device, I have already sent Lenovo a return request. I am really sad about it: I don't know what else to buy, and I really loved the machine in many ways. This was an almost-perfect laptop ruined by Ryzen 6000 bugs on Linux, a mediocre Wi-Fi adapter that you couldn't replace, and some nasty BIOS bugs months after initial release. Today is a sad day, as I transition back to my old Dell Inspiron 5567 that is slow, ugly and falling apart. But still more stable than my new PC.
I’ve been searching for one for months, and my biggest issue is the lack of models with them. When they do come with the Ryzen 6000 CPU, it’s usually so expensive.
Meanwhile everywhere I go I see the latest Intel processor in most new laptops for a good price, and I’m not wanting to get it (because I want to go with AMD), but I’m so close to just cutting my losses and getting one.
What’s going on? How is there such little availability compared to 12th Gen Intel models?
Will ryzen 6000 use 5nm and a single ccx layout for all their consumer cpus for the best performance.
I have a Ryzen 7 2700. Is it worth to wait for the 6000 series?
Currently I'm thinking about upgrading to the 5600x!
If you need a new CPU now and can afford it, then buy a new CPU.
If you are still happy with your current CPU and/or the currently available options won't be enough of an upgrade to justify the cost, then wait.
New Zen, New Ram, New Chipset. So if you wanna be a guinea pig then wait, or buy best of todays tech which will still slam all games coming out for the next 5 years. By then ddr 5 will be couple of years old and more mainstream.
Considering waiting for the 6000 series of laptop CPUS for the better IGPU, though I'll probably be going with the lower end models (R5 6600/660M). How do you expect it (and the higher end ones) to compare against Vega 8 and Iris Xe G7?
if you desire the performance advantages and efficiency, i certainly would at this point in time. It's just a matter of waiting on stock, it's not something we know nothing about way off months from now.
Are you going to have a dGPU +iGPU or only an iGPU. This is the most important question for you. If you are going for a dGPU then no, dont wait.
I only see an Asus laptop that has one but it is a very expensive 6900HS. I'd love an 6800u right about now because I'm in dire need for an upgrade. The biggest reason for waiting Ryzen 6k laptops is the claimed massive improvement in battery life.
I'm slightly confused as to why I can only see the 7000 series being launched, and not a 6000 series. Does anyone know why? Thanks.
I want an inexpensive laptop machine that's also capable of doing some light gaming.
Anything with a graphics card is out because those add significant cost.
The Ryzen 5500U looks like (from youtube testers) that it might be right on the borderline of being powerful enough to do the gaming I want. And there are laptops with the 5500U in the sub $400 price range. So I'm tempted to buy one of those.
It looks like the 6000 series is a major step up in terms of graphics performance. But right now the only laptops with the 6000 series are higher end ones.
Does anyone know when the 6000's might trickle down to the lesser priced machines?
Here in EU the cheapest laptops start at around 1000€. Not even great specs either, e.g. https://geizhals.de/lenovo-thinkbook-13s-g4-arb-arctic-grey-21as0006ge-a2761774.html?hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk
Usually a basic design laptop with iGPU and 16GB RAM, you could get a 5600U for 600€ with similiar specs. Is the price difference solely DDR5 and Ryzen 6000 generation or is it something else? Right now I am looking for a new laptop and the only significant difference i see in terms of speed upgrade between 6600U and 5600U is the iGPU. Thats hardly worth 400€ for me.
mobile 5000 series were a drop-in replacement from 4000 series for ODMs, this led to quick adoption. This time there's new package, new memory generation (intel still offers ddr4), new PCIe generation.
Well, and also the fact that AMD probably sells 6000 series chips for more than 5000 series, so budget laptops get 5000 series with DDR4 and PCIe 3.0, while more premium models get 6000 series with DDR5 and PCIe 4.0
Worth to point out that Ryzen 6000 laptops were released in February. I had expected we would see some competitive laptops by now.
I'm looking to buy a new laptop but will wait for 6000 series because of igpu, battery life and so on. Preferably something very light like zenbook, can't find any info on availability..
Thanks
Thin laptops with low power processors usually start appearing around May-June. Check if Asus have announced their lineup.
In the last few years, I've tried to keep at least one eye watching for AMD laptops. You are best served expecting nothing in a reasonable timeframe. Some models barely make it to market before the next generation of chips is being shown off and the launch windows we get are incredibly vague "100+ models starting this Spring," but 95% of them are 6 months after.
I'd really like to see the price and availability of the new ROG Flow X13. Thus far, only the 3050Ti model is out there, but I want the base one. Heck, the only reason it interests me is because high-end 2-in-1s with AMD internals are so hard to find. I ended up getting an HP Envy a couple of years back and it kinda sucks. At the same time, there hasn't been much of anything better to come along. I don't WANT to spend $1,200+ for a decent 2-in-1, but that seems to be the only avenue for AMD users.
When's a base model coming? No clue because they snuck the mid-range one out the door without an announcement and base models are getting the least amount of attention in this economic climate.
IIRC, they gave no indication as to when R6000 APUs will start releasing in the new laptops for consumers.
Is there any way to figure out (maybe based on past years)?