As a retail investor who is not trading daily, this situation is extremely difficult and hard to predict when also just having a regular 9 to 5 job The question to ask is - is it something you even need to worry about? Markets have major downturns for all sorts of reasons. If not an "AI bubble" it can be whatever. Accept that as reality, acknowledge your time horizon, and invest accordingly. If you build a strong ship you don't need to worry about when the next wave will be. Answer from therealjerseytom on reddit.com
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/stocks › everybody talks about the ai bubble going to burst, but how? and what are the implications for the small investor?
r/stocks on Reddit: Everybody talks about the AI bubble going to burst, but how? And what are the implications for the small investor?
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During the 2008 financial crisis the housing bubble burst because of mortgages to unqualified borrowers, complex financial products like mortgage-backed securities (MBS), and lax lending standards. So, a faulty system depending on we, the people, paying off mortgages and loans that were not being paid back. Seems a logical cause for a bubble to burst.

Before, the dotcom bubble bursted because of extreme overvaluation of companies, which were not performing up to the expectations, so the revenue wasn't there.

Now there is obviously an AI bubble as has been pointed out many many times, but currently the companies involved are still meeting their expected revenue goals (looking at NVIDIA, Meta, Google even though that is not strictly an AI-related company, their current valuation is also due to their AI developments). Of course, investing in each other and buying each other's products, causing stocks to rise, is super inflatory, but is not punished so far. It seems.

Now, a geopolitical conflict involving a certain chipmaker to not be able to produce would likely pop the bubble overnight. Given the current geopolitical situation and the people involved, this is not unlikely in the coming years. But as long as this doesn't happen it appears to be business as usual, and the AI-race will continue.

Now, comparing this to earlier bubbles, the pattern is similar. An industry is pumped to the moon, a bunch of people make an insane amount of money, the bubble bursts and most people get screwed over with a few winners. The question is always: how high will it go when the companies are profitable and how deep will the lows be?

As a retail investor who is not trading daily, this situation is extremely difficult and hard to predict when also just having a regular 9 to 5 job. I know I won't be able to predict it, so it is a risk analysis whether the current valuations will be the future lows OR if big companies with PE ratios of 50 are already a selling sign for the retail investor. This would even apply to ETFs like VWRL, since their share of NVDA is also high. The whole market will likely go down when this bubble bursts, just some companies more than others. given earlier arguments, I feel like going short here is stupid. Thereby, world governments are hedging inflation (buying loads of gold), which also has geopolitical implications. Now I believe in the mantra that time in the market beats timing the market but probably needing the money in 3 years or so, the current situation is a spicy sauce. It seems like hedging inflation (e.g. buying gold and funds like Berkshire) is not a bad move.

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Penn Today
penntoday.upenn.edu › news › there-ai-bubble-and-what-happens-if-it-bursts
Is there an AI bubble and what happens if it bursts? | Penn Today
3 weeks ago - Wall Street rides an AI-fueled rally that has pushed major indices to new highs that’s driven largely by a handful of dominant tech firms. As enthusiasm around artificial intelligence reshapes markets and concentrates risk, questions are mounting about whether the surge reflects durable growth or the familiar shape of a speculative bubble.
As a retail investor who is not trading daily, this situation is extremely difficult and hard to predict when also just having a regular 9 to 5 job The question to ask is - is it something you even need to worry about? Markets have major downturns for all sorts of reasons. If not an "AI bubble" it can be whatever. Accept that as reality, acknowledge your time horizon, and invest accordingly. If you build a strong ship you don't need to worry about when the next wave will be. Answer from therealjerseytom on reddit.com
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BBC
bbc.com › news › articles › cwy7vrd8k4eo
Google boss says trillion-dollar AI investment boom has 'elements of irrationality'
Every company would be affected if the AI bubble were to burst, the head of Google's parent firm Alphabet has told the BBC.
Published   November 18, 2025
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Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org › wiki › AI_bubble
AI bubble - Wikipedia
1 day ago - The AI bubble is a theorised stock market bubble growing amid the current AI boom, a period of rapid increase in investment in artificial intelligence (AI) that is affecting the broader economy. Speculation about a bubble largely originates from concerns that leading AI tech firms are involved ...
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Financial Post
financialpost.com › news › if-ai-bubble-bursts-how-bad
If the AI bubble bursts this is how bad it could be | Financial Post
November 24, 2025 - “Something similar might happen again, as the boost to productivity from the AI revolution started to show up in more parts of the economy,” said Higgins. ... Capital may be right about the rally having further to run. This morning, tech stocks were once again leading gains after last week’s selloff. ... But the economists did add this caution: “given the pullback in the stock market, it isn’t out of the question that the bubble is starting to burst now.”
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/artificialinteligence › there is no “ai bubble.” what we’re living through is an ai capex supercycle.
r/ArtificialInteligence on Reddit: There is no “AI Bubble.” What we’re living through is an AI CapEx Supercycle.
December 4, 2025 -

People keep comparing today’s AI market to the Dotcom bubble, but the structure is fundamentally different. Back then, the market was dominated by hundreds of small, non-viable companies with no revenue and no real product. Today, the core of the AI build-out is driven by the most profitable, cash-rich companies on the planet: Microsoft, Google, Amazon, Apple, Meta, NVIDIA, Broadcom, and the hyperscalers. These firms have actual products, real demand, and business models that already scale.

What is similar to the Dotcom era is the valuation stretch and the expectation curve. We are in a CapEx Supercycle where hyperscalers are pouring unprecedented amounts of money into GPUs, data centers, power infrastructure, and model development. This phase cannot grow linearly forever. At some point, build-out slows, ROI expectations tighten, and the market will reprice.

When that happens, here’s what to expect:

Winners: diversified hyperscalers, cloud platforms, chip manufacturers with real moats, and software ecosystems that can monetize AI at scale.

Survivors but volatile: model labs, foundation model vendors, and second-tier hardware companies that depend on hyperscaler demand cycles.

Casualties: AI “feature startups,” companies without defensible tech, firms relying on perpetual GPU scarcity, and anything whose valuation implies perfect execution for a decade.

This isn’t a bubble waiting to burst into nothingness but a massive, front-loaded investment cycle that will normalize once infrastructure saturation and cost pressures kick in. The technology is real, the demand is real, and the winners will be even large, but the path there won’t be a straight line.

Edit: Thank you all very much for your posts and discussion. This seems to be a very controversial topic, but this is also something where everyone can learn.

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The Guardian
theguardian.com › technology › 2025 › dec › 01 › ai-bubble-us-economy
The question isn’t whether the AI bubble will burst – but what the fallout will be | AI (artificial intelligence) | The Guardian
December 1, 2025 - Or is it more likely to look like the dot-com bubble, whose bursting produced a comparatively shallow economic downturn and ultimately gave the world the modern internet? As I pointed out in my last column about AI, Gita Gopinath, former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund, calculated that a stock market crash equivalent to that which ended the dot-com boom would erase some $20tn in American household wealth and another $15tn abroad, enough to strangle consumer spending and induce a recession.
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Yale Insights
insights.som.yale.edu › insights › this-is-how-the-ai-bubble-bursts
This Is How the AI Bubble Bursts | Yale Insights
October 8, 2025 - The meteoric rise can be primarily explained by the increased focus of venture organizations, such as Andreessen Horowitz and Y Combinator, on AI startups and the mindboggling valuations of those emerging companies. Under such exuberant conditions, Patricof reflected, “There will be winners and losers, and the losses will be pretty significant.” · The warnings of exuberance may be mounting, but how the bubble pops is a question that has gone unanswered.
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The Globe and Mail
theglobeandmail.com › report on business › what you need to know about the ai bubble – and how it will pop
What you need to know about the AI bubble – and how it will pop - The Globe and Mail
November 24, 2025 - The fallout from an AI investment bust would be severe enough to tip the U.S. economy into a recession, Mr. Berezin says. AI has propped up the stock market, which has in turn supported consumer spending, preventing a weak U.S. economy from contracting. Should AI stocks burst, there goes the wealth effect from the stock market, triggering a vicious cycle.
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NPR
npr.org › 2025 › 11 › 23 › nx-s1-5615410 › ai-bubble-nvidia-openai-revenue-bust-data-centers
Here's why concerns about an AI bubble are bigger than ever
November 23, 2025 - Twenty-five years ago, the original dot-com bubble burst after, among other factors, debt financing built out fiber-optic cables for a future that had not yet arrived, said Luria, a lesson, it appears, tech companies are not worried about repeating.
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The Conversation
theconversation.com › yes-there-is-an-ai-investment-bubble-here-are-three-scenarios-for-how-it-could-end-269525
Yes, there is an AI investment bubble – here are three scenarios for how it could end
3 weeks ago - At the very least, part of the soaring value of AI-related stocks is a bubble – and a bubble cannot stay inflated forever. It has to either burst on its own, or, ideally, be carefully deflated through targeted government or Central Bank measures.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/outoftheloop › what’s the deal with the ai bubble? what are the implications and ramifications of an ai bubble burst?
r/OutOfTheLoop on Reddit: What’s the deal with the AI bubble? What are the implications and ramifications of an AI bubble burst?
November 19, 2025 -

I’m sorry for my short sidedness and I understand that a lot of things right now are AI related. But what would be the tangible impact (other than job loss I think) that would cause large scale issues of the AI bubble burst?

TIA.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/ocasio-cortez-ai-bailout

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Answer: There is a general belief that AI investment is in a state where the entire market is being propped up and is heavily overvalued. Those that support AI claim that the investment will pay off incredibly and change the world as we know it, akin to getting in on the ground floor of the internet. However, the investment in AI is so massive that anything short of complete societal revolution where every claim is completely right would be a failure. At this point, so much money is being bet on it that a new tool that's really useful that everyone uses sometimes would be a failure. Imagine if someone said they'd build the best house ever, and raised money based on saying it would be the most valuable house ever. Then they raised billions of dollars to build the house. Well, the house could be really good. It could be amazing. But unless that house sells for even more billions of dollars, it's going to be a failure and those investors lose out. And the house isn't looking like a palace at the moment. But this extends further. People are investing in the investors, and so on. If the AI bubble bursts, first the main companies likely fail as they run out of money. But then the companies invested in those companies fail. Then the companies invested in THOSE ones fail. This ripples out through the market, where investment accounts, retirement accounts, etc. all keep failing. Going back to the house metaphor, it's like if this house was promised to be so good, a bunch of businesses cropped up to make a town supporting the house. People were hired to build stores, make businesses to support the mega-house, and even support people working in industries to support the mega-house. If the house fails to be the best thing ever, that entire town, built up entirely on expectation of the house being the best, will fail. And everyone invested in it is going to suffer for it. Even if you hate the house and think it's stupid, you might have a retirement fund through your job. That fund invested it's money into Bob's Painting Company because it was doing super well. And it was doing super well because it invested in a new branch, and that branch invested in the House because they figured they'd make a ton of money being hired to paint and repaint it. When the house fails, the branch fails, Bob's stock crashes, and your retirement fund loses a lot of money.
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Answer: Finance journalists have always been racing to predict the next market downturn and they have been specifically trying to predict "bubbles" i.e. market downturns in specific business areas since the dot com crash in year 2000. The cloud computing bubble was supposed to burst in early 2010s The housing bubble was supposed to burst in late 2000s As you see on the above examples, sometimes some pundits can get things right while at other times they may get things wrong. The housing market really crashed in 2007 while cloud computing is here to stay. Everyone who's talking about the AI bubble bursting is just guessing. It might be that AI turns out not to be as useful/profitable as expected. It could turn out more useful than people expected. It may be that AI will be very successful just not in the hands of the current biggest players (which was the case with the dot com bubble). No one really knows.
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Los Angeles Times
latimes.com › business › story › 2025-11-20 › is-there-ai-bubble-has-it-started-to-burst
Is there an AI bubble and has it started to burst? - Los Angeles Times
November 20, 2025 - “While the success of dominant technology companies is clear to see, this doesn’t necessarily mean that there is a bubble in the market that is in imminent danger of bursting,” the paper said. Gary Smith, an economics professor at Pomona College and author, has warned about an AI bubble.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/stocks › anyone else think the ai bubble will burst after openai’s ipo?
r/stocks on Reddit: Anyone else think the AI bubble will burst after OpenAI’s IPO?
November 3, 2025 -

In my opinion, the market is ripping right now simply due to most of the AI companies with actual consumer facing products and software still being private. The public companies (Mag 7) are almost all making money by selling chips or selling compute, but eventually the companies at the end of the chain (ie. OpenAI) buying the chips & compute need to make money.

People know OpenAi isn’t making money, but no one seems to care. I feel like once OpenAi’s financials are all available , investors will realize it’s just not as profitable as they anticipated or the profits won’t come as quickly as they want, and demand for everything AI related deflates. I mean if OpenAI can’t show a clear path to profitability, the company that’s being given every financial handout available, then how would other AI product or service companies stand a chance?

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Here's what I think will happen. Open AI will have a hard time getting their ROI as more efficient models come out and open-source catch up to a sufficient degree. AI software companies will prosper and there will be exponentially more AI adoption. AI will be normalized, Open AI will be much less dominant than they're in consumer AI, and many more alternatives will split the market. They invest so much to get their first-to-market advantage. I don't think it will materialize into sustainable moat. It's not like internet search; AI chat is not the end goal (Google is valuable to me because I can use it to search, so if it does search really well it's very sticky; Open AI is not valuable to me because I want to chat. I'm using the chat to do other stuff and it can change overnight due to how ill-fitted chat is to most applications I'm trying to use it for).
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800 million weekly active users is all you need to understand. The tech world is good enough at getting eyeballs first and monetizing second There’s a reason the obsession is around OpenAI and not all these other companies. They have the eyeballs It’s already clear they’re going for ads like every other company making profit (outside nvda) The only real bubble question left is - if things get bad enough financially, ads won’t be as lucrative as they currently are (GOOGL hitting $100B in ad revenue per quarter) The bubble isn’t really about yes ai or no ai, the us economy is held up by like 95% selling / tracking people for ads. If people stop buying all this crap they’re getting ads for, the entire tech ecosystem dies The only reason the internet is profitable right now is because every American is being tracked by 79 different pixels. If we lose that we’re doomed
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/nostupidquestions › why are people excited about the prospect of the ai bubble bursting? would it have any upsides at all?
r/NoStupidQuestions on Reddit: Why are people excited about the prospect of the AI bubble bursting? Would it have any upsides at all?
September 26, 2025 -

I don't like generative AI, with it flooding the internet with bot content, but why do people look forward to the AI bubble bursting as a solution to it? I've literally seen verbatim online, "I can't wait til the bubble pops", I'm sure you've seen something similar.

As far as I gather, if the burst/crash happens, all that will happen is that we enter a recession, as in we lose our jobs and grocery prices go up, but all of the problematic AI would still exist.

Sure, I'd imagine 95% of the AI companies that exist today will go bankrupt, but that woudln't affect OpenAI (edit: OpenAI is a bad example, but the main point still stands), Claude, Google, etc. The companies that will be going bankrupt would be companies who sell stuff like "AI-powered automatic dog feeder" or "your new AI anime catgirl girlfriend".

The big guys in the AI space can just weather the storm, and in the process maybe even get rid of a few competitors to get even bigger in the future. Or get bailed out by the US government like in 2008.

It's like if you wish for an economic crash for restaurants because you believe that McDonald's and Domino's Pizza is destroying people's health, but then it actually happens and all it affects are your local businesses, while all of the global chain restaurants stay strong. That is literally what happened during COVID-19 5 years ago.

Am I missing something?

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The New Yorker
newyorker.com › culture › artificial intelligence (a.i.) › is a.i. actually a bubble?
Is A.I. Actually a Bubble? | The New Yorker
1 month ago - A.I. is a bubble and it will burst,” he said. “Most of the companies will fail. Most of the data-centers will be shuttered or sold for parts.” What will be left? His answer, essentially, was nothing: just a lot of newly cheap computer ...
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WIRED
wired.com › the big story › the ai issue › ai is the bubble to burst them all
AI Is the Bubble to Burst Them All | WIRED
October 27, 2025 - AI may not simply be “a bubble,” or even an enormous bubble. It may be the ultimate bubble. What you might cook up in a lab if your aim was to engineer the Platonic ideal of a tech bubble. One bubble to burst them all.
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Reuters
reuters.com › sustainability › climate-energy › no-firm-is-immune-if-ai-bubble-bursts-google-ceo-tells-bbc-2025-11-18
No firm is immune if AI bubble bursts, Google CEO tells BBC | Reuters
November 18, 2025 - LONDON, Nov 18 - Alphabet (GOOGL.O), opens new tab Chief Executive Sundar Pichai said no company would be unscathed if the artificial intelligence boom collapses, as soaring valuations and heavy investment in the sector fuel concerns of a bubble.
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CBC News
cbc.ca › news › business › stock-market-downturn-9.6967546
Soaring tech stocks take a turn amid fears of an AI bubble | CBC News
November 5, 2025 - The Current13:32Will the A.I. bubble burst?There are growing concerns from economists, tech industry insiders and investors that artificial intelligence might be a bubble about to burst.
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Medium
wlockett.medium.com › peter-thiel-just-revealed-how-utterly-screwed-the-entire-ai-industry-is-df7a6e4d5d60
Peter Thiel Just Revealed How Utterly Screwed The Entire AI Industry Is | by Will Lockett | Nov, 2025 | Medium
November 22, 2025 - Peter Thiel Just Revealed How Utterly Screwed The Entire AI Industry Is The AI bubble is bursting. I might temporarily regret that subtitle. I am writing this literally hours before Nvidia’s Q3 …