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r/MadeInAbyss on Reddit: Dawn of The Deep Soul was not what I thought it would be
July 11, 2022 -

Let me start off by saying that season 1 was incredible for me, as it was for many other people. I didn't feel so invested into a show for a very long time. But after watching Dawn of The Deep Soul I was honestly bummed out, I felt like the story completely changed its focus.

One of my favourite scenes from season 1 was when Riko was hit by the Orb Piercer, and Reg was hopelessly trying to save her. It was a really heavy scene that showed the will of the protagonists to move forward despite the dangers of the Abyss. It was desperate and horrible, but it felt real, it was what needed to be done to survive.

In Dawn of The Deep Soul, however, I thought that all the gore and horror shown was unnecessary. Why did the cartridges need to be made with the body parts of human children? Why did the white whistle need a sacrifice to be made? Why did Bondrewd experiment on orphan children in the most horrible way possible? It honestly became kinda stupid to me.

It went from gore and horror to show what the protagonists needed to face to venture further into the abyss, and their resolve to continue pushing forward, to gore and horror for the sake of gore and horror.

And after watching the start of season 2, I feel like the show will continue going with this trend, which is a shame for me.

I am by no means trying to ruin the show to anyone else or trying to force my opinion on others, nor am I calling the show bad. I just wanted to see what others think about this, and maybe some different perspectives will help me love the show again.

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I mean at least for that arc you kinda were told time and time again in season 1 how fucked up bondrewd is, from both nanachi and ozen. And the story shifts as the new arc opens up to be a bit more Character and dynamic-oriented as opposed to setting up the world in the beginning of season 1. Bondrewd I think was meant as a means to show how convoluted someone in power can get in this world. He's doing these things pretty much completely safe from backlash. He's of the highest rank whistle, and he's also the most successful scientist of the whistles. He's achieved a lot, and was the one that got black whistles to even be allowed in the 5th layer. The cost? The loss of humanity and morality over time. He keeps producing results, and keeps getting closer and closer to completely losing his humanity. Something as simple as disregarding flavor for functionality in nutrition bars warped into sacrificing his own humanity for a whistle, which warped even further into taking advantage of and sacrificing others' humanity for scientific gain. Nanachi and crew are the only people to shift him a little bit back towards humanity I think, as seen with his last scene in the movie, having a human eye poke through the mask. And for specific questions you had : why orphans in cartridges? - they didn't have to be. It's just what he had to be honest. why did the white whistle need a sacrifice to be made? - this is explained further during the content of season 2 for a bit. Life reverberating stones do not straight up KILL the person involved in making it. why did he experiment on orphan children? - like I said earlier, at this point in his life he had been very out of touch with his sense of morality, yet still had status and power. Some way, in his mind, he needed human lives to experiment with. And he was all done experimenting with his own. So I guess a whole slew of factors end up making that decision. And no, I wouldn't say season 2 goes too much into that pointless gore and horror trope that much. Sure there's stuff like that will still happen, it IS made in abyss, but nothing like bondrewd level with experimentation and the such. The world and the abyss is just unforgiving a lot of the time. I'd be happy to talk more because dawn of the deep soul is one of my favorite anime movies and I find it to be a very emotional experience, and I guess I at least THINK I understand the motives behind the scenes and characters. But who knows! Maybe I don't! But I still like the series haha
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Im not shure how it is in the anime, but at least in the manga there's an explanation for most of the stuff that happens in mia. The cartridges for example are made from humans because only living things can be cursed by the abyss and so, to redirect it from himself, Bondrewd uses those.(children bc a)shock factor, and b) they're children, noone cares what happens to a bunch of orphan homeless children in the world of mia.
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Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep Soul (2020) ⭐ 8.0 | Animation, Adventure, Drama
January 17, 2020 - Riko, Reg, and their new friend, Nanachi, continue their journey down the Abyss and arrive at the 5th layer. But in order for them to continue to the 6th layer, they must encounter the haunting figure of Nanachi's past: Bondrewd the Novel.
Release date   Jan 17, 2020
Duration   01:53:00
Director   Masayuki Kojima
Rating: 8/10 ​ - ​ 7.17K votes
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A review of Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep Soul | Everything is bad for you
May 28, 2023 - So setting those first two aside, let’s rejoin Riko, Reg, and Nanachi deep in the Abyss. As usual with these kinds of posts, I won’t get into the background here that I covered in my review of the first season. Also, extreme spoilers this time, and a more serious warning since this is generally a plot-heavy series. Maybe I should just make a *SPOILERS* graphic at this point. If I had any design skill I might. The crew evaluating a threat in the field of flowers where Riko’s mother is (maybe) buried. Dawn of the Deep Soul starts exactly where season 1 of the series left off, with Riko finding the fabled field of flowers that her mother may or may not be buried in, right under her legendary pickaxe weapon stuck in the ground.
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Because now Riko, Reg and Nanachi must ford seas of corpses, survive fields of parasitic insects, and confront the most potentially dangerous entity of all, Bondrewd, the body shifting guardian of the gate to the sixth level, in the all-new feature length masterpiece - MADE IN ABYSS: DAWN OF THE DEEP SOUL!
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Made in Abyss: The Golden City of the Scorching Sun - Season 2 Premium Box Set Collection [Blu-Ray] · Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep Soul ( Gekijouban Made in Abyss: Fukaki Tamashii no Reimei ) [ Blu-Ray, Reg.A/B/C Import - Australia ] · Starring: Mariya Ise (Voice), Inori Minase (Voice), ...
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r/anime on Reddit: [Rewatch] Made in Abyss - Dawn of the Deep Soul - Movie discussion
June 27, 2022 -

Marulk’s Everyday | Rewatch Index | Overall Series discussion


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Comment of the Day

Comment of the Day goes to u/Nebresto for explaining why the fourth Marulk short should be seen by all MiA fans:

Just a quick recap of why 4 is so superior, and should be watched by all Abyss fans: It gave us actual lore. We found out: There's a common tongue most people around the world apparently speak. Someone flew a freaking airship in the Abyss. They have airships, that seem to be mostly made of wood. Marulk had a dad, and wasn't just abandoned somewhere. And it is confirmed he was found in the Abyss, not on the surface.

Questions of the Day

  1. Has your understanding of Bondrewd and his goals changed since we last saw him in the first season? Why or why not?

  2. Do you think Nanachi is a “bad person” for helping Bondrewd create the cartridges? Why do you think Nanachi originally agreed to help Bondrewd at the start of the film, only to back out later?

  3. What do you think of this new teamwork dynamic between Reg, Riko, and Nanachi? Do you think anyone deserves the "MVP" title, or did they pull their weight equally?

  4. What did you think about “The Blessing of the Abyss” being tied into love? Do you think this says anything about the journey ahead?

  5. What do you think about the revelation that White Whistles are created using human life? What do you think this says about their timbre being able to activate relics?

  6. Do you think Bondrewd truly loved Prushka? Why do you think he decided to rescue her and raise her, only to sacrifice her in the end?


We have reached the end of the series, so this disclaimer is no longer needed! However, please tag any source-related content properly, and refrain from alluding to unadapted events.

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First-Timer in Abyss, subbed Welp oops I totally lost track of time... I liked the little difference at the start, between Nanachi scuttling down the huge plant thing vs. Reg just slowly but surely descending with his extendable arms. Oh SWEET they made it to that garden! Other cave raiders, hm? Uh-oh. ? The Blaze Reap… and this person knew it was theirs? Oh geez RIP flower garden. Fifth Layer get! The fuck kind of creature is that? So this girl’s gonna be the Marulk of the Fifth Layer, hm? Prushka’s her name, hm. Oh, that’s not good. How are they gonna get around that? Prushka is way too cute… something’s gonna happen to her over the course of this movie, isn’t it. Oh? …if that’s Reg’s operating limit… Riko no that is a terrible idea– Cute~ AI DESU YO I wonder if Bondrewd and Dr. Ver would get along. Nanachi… Ah, so Bondrewd was behind Reg’s disappearance… I was hoping he’d just gone up the forbidden stairs because he isn’t affected by the Curse. *incoherent scream* I’m fairly certain one of these Umbral dudes is voiced by the same guy who voiced Shino in Naruto and it’s tripping me up so hard. Mm… I have a feeling that’s not gonna happen, though. It’s the inverse of episode 10! Riko actually using the Blaze Reap!!! Oh that drew blood… Oh SHIT that’s crazy! Okay but we’re not even halfway through the movie yet, there has to be some sort of trick… Ah, that was the trick. What …oh. Lovely. Dear god I don’t like where this is going. the fuck Welp. Oh no… ……………………………………………… …you know I’m not even surprised at this point. Holy shit Reg Oh great… Oh god… Shit, he’s turning fluffy and not into muck , he has Prushka with him, doesn’t he… Fuck, is she in the tank on his back? Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck Meinya innocently moving the Cartridge around, fuck. That got me. That got me. That’s… the base for a White Whistle… Ohp, Nanachi “sore demo”. Oh the ED was in Engrish. Goddamn, I’d heard this movie was even more messed up than the show was, but… I still wasn’t expecting kids-turned-into-batteries levels of fucked up shit. And the weirder part is I don’t hate Bondrewd??? He’s a damn effective villain.
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first timer god i haven't watched the main show since lockdown started, so getting back into this is jarring it prob would have been a good idea to actually rewatch the show, but i was already occupied with geah and higurashi i forgot how horrifying this shit is, not even 10 minutes in and im already disgusted shit i remember that brondrewd bastard man prushka reminds me of riko and reg back at the surface how the fuck did this bondrewd motherfucker raise a child like that? oh bondrewd was one hell of a villain if i do say so myself. one whos goal sure isn't to make misery out of hundreds of kids, but is pretty much the same as riko and reg's. he's an "ends justify means" kinda person, but like taken to a mega extreme. like what kinda of person is totally chill with turning themselves into a fucking whistle??? no surprise that a mfer who turned himself into a whistle sees no problem with turning kids, and his own daughter into disposable cartriges. i kinda love and hate the ending tho. i love how nanachi comes to a mutual understanding with him. no apology for his crimes, no anger from him, just his blessing. on the other hand i hate it because he still deserves to be turned into a cartridge. though idk if thats horrible enough for him, given that he's totally down for being a whistle. maybe send him to the surface, and put a restraining order between him and the abyss so he can never explore it again
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Made in Abyss - Wikipedia
November 1, 2025 - The story follows an orphaned girl named Riko, who finds and befriends a part-robot boy named Reg, and descends with him into the titular "Abyss" that leads deep into the Earth, in hopes of exploring it and finding her mother. An anime television series adaptation produced by Kinema Citrus, aired from July to September 2017. A sequel film, subtitled Dawn of the Deep Soul, premiered in Japan in January 2020.
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Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep Soul | Rotten Tomatoes
Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep ... Soul (2020) View more photos · Synopsis · Riko, Reg and a new friend encounter the mysterious Bondrewd while venturing to the Sea of Corpses....
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MADE IN ABYSS: Dawn of the Deep Soul - Apple TV
January 17, 2020 - However, at the bottom of the abyss, she met one of the legendary white Whistle "Bondrewd" and his daughter, but somehow discovered the secret of the abyss and the hollow...all the conspiracy came out... ... In order to find Lyza, the mother of the greatest white whistle, Riko deep into the world's remaining abyss, "Abyss", with the lost memory robot Reg, encounter various mysterious creatures and dangers along the way, she even accompanied Nanachi, who was hollow.
Release date   Jan 17, 2020
Director   Masayuki Kojima
Actors   Miyu TomitaMariya IseSayaka Ohara
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Watch MADE IN ABYSS: Dawn of the Deep Soul online – Prime Video
Deep in the Abyss, the White Whistle Bondrewd welcomes Riko, Reg and Nanachi into his home, even allowing them to become fast friends with his daughter, Prushka — but these brave adventurers know things are not always as they seem in the Abyss...
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Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep Soul streaming
June 15, 2021 - A continuation of the epic adventure of plucky Riko and Reg who are joined by their new friend Nanachi. Together they descend into the Abyss' treacherous fifth layer, the Sea of Corpses, and encounter the mysterious Bondrewd, a legendary White ...
Release date   Jan 17, 2020
Duration   01:45:00
Director   Masayuki Kojima
Rating: 79/100 ​ - ​ 372 votes
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Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep Soul - Movies on Google Play
Riko and Reg are joined by their new friend Nanachi as they descend into the Abyss' treacherous fifth layer, the Sea of Corpses. There they encounter the mysterious Bondrewd, a legendary White Whistle whose shadow looms over Nanachi's troubled past. Although Bondrewd is ingratiatingly hospitable and the trio soon becomes fast friends with his gregarious daughter, Prushka, the brave adventurers know things are not always as they seem in the enigmatic Abyss...
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MADE IN ABYSS: Dawn of the Deep Soul
In the Abyss’ fifth layer, Riko, Reg and Nanachi meet Bondrewd, a legendary White Whistle who is not what he seems…
Published   December 15, 2023
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Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep Soul movie review | by DoctorKev | AniTAY-Official | Medium
November 28, 2020 - Dawn of the Deep Soul follows directly on from the conclusion of the 13-episode TV series with central trio Riko, Reg and Nanachi descending from the lush, danger-filled fourth layer of The Abyss to the icy, treacherous fifth layer — the invitingly titled “Sea of Corpses”. It was in this harsh, unforgiving place that Nanachi and her friend Mitty fell prey to the silver-tongued but ruthless Bondrewd, the Sovereign of Dawn.
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A journey's end, a distant dream. Continue the adventure with MADE IN ABYSS Dawn of the Deep Soul, coming to theaters April 13th and April 15th! Get your tic...
Published   March 2, 2020
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Deep in the Abyss, the White Whistle Bondrewd welcomes Riko, Reg and Nanachi into his home, even allowing them to become fast friends with his daughter, Prushka — but these brave adventurers know things are not always as they seem in the Abyss...
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Made in Abyss Movie 3: Fukaki Tamashii no Reimei (Movie 2020) - MyAnimeList.net
Looking for information on the ... active online anime and manga community and database. After bonding over a tragic loss, the long-suffering Nanachi joins Riko and Reg on their journey into the depths of the Abyss....
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Amazon.com: MADE IN ABYSS : Movies & TV
Because now Riko, Reg and Nanachi must ford seas of corpses, survive fields of parasitic insects, and confront the most potentially dangerous entity of all, Bondrewd, the body shifting guardian of the gate to the sixth level, in the all-new feature length masterpiece - MADE IN ABYSS: DAWN OF THE DEEP SOUL!
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Made in Abyss: Dawn of the Deep Soul (2020) - User reviews - IMDb
The music is great, the characters are intriguing, the art style is unique and imaginative. This movie contains all the emotional turns and gut wrenching developments that the anime had. This is a must watch if you liked the anime. I will watch anything that is attached to made in abyss.