Hey guys, I hope everyone is doing well.
I am looking to build yet another PC and I will be going with AMD (finally). I've been using Intel for my past few builds but Intel just doesn't seem like the best bang for the buck anymore.
Anyway, I would like to get some opinions on current high-end(ish) motherboards.
Currently I'm between:
Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Hero: https://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-rog-crosshair-viii-hero-socket-am4-usb-c-gen2-amd-motherboard-with-led-lighting/6356982.p?skuId=6356982
and the...
MSI X570S Carbon MAX Wifi: https://www.newegg.com/msi-mpg-x570s-carbon-max-wifi/p/N82E16813144493?Description=MSI%20X570S%20Carbon%20MAX%20Wifi&cm_re=MSI_X570S%20Carbon%20MAX%20Wifi-_-13-144-493-_-Product&quicklink=true
BUT, I would absolutely consider any suggestions that you may have in mind. I will admit I am a bit of an ASUS fanboy and have been using their motherboards for about a decade now. They have never given me a problem and have always been reliable (knock on wood). I am also one to "future proof" my purchases so I would consider a motherboard that is a bit on the pricier side if it has bells and whistles that could be suitable for years to come. (Well, at least 2 years lol).
It would probably help in suggesting a suitable mobo if you knew what components I'd be running along with it. Bear with me for I am still undecided on certain things. To get an idea, however: AMD 5800X, 32gb Corsair Vengence PRO RBG C16 RAM(It's B-die so it will work very well with my processor/mobo), either a Samsung 980 or 970 Pro NVMe PCI-E 4.0/3.0 drive, & a Corsair H150i cpu cooler
Guys, I know this is a lot to read so I really appreciate you taking the time to look this over and/or comment. This is also my second reddit post so I also appreciate your patience.
Thank you and enjoy the weekend!
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Hello, (Pls note omega noob here I just like GPUs that are thicc af), I got the Motherboard only because it looks nice XD.
I am currently debating if I should get a new motherboard for my new PC build will be high end I guess,
my current build is...
- Asus ROG crosshair VIII Hero X570 (current one is 2 years old)
- RTX 2060 Super 8 GB (yes I know not thicc)
- 3200 MHz Corsair 16 GB Ram (8x2)
- Ryzen 5 3600 CPU
- Corsair 650W gold PSU
- Corsair H100x 240MM AIO
- 1 x SSD (not M.2) and 1 x HDD
- Cooler Master MB350P case with 1 x non RGB exhaust fan and 3 x RGB front fans
(Yes I know new gen stuff is coming but I need something for really good 1440p gaming life is hard with a 2060 super at 1440p at least for me, I can't live with it anymore)
The new build I am looking forward to is...
- Debating if I should keep my current Crosshair VIII Hero or get another MB
- Sapphire AMD Radeon 6950XT NITRO+ Pure (super goddamn thicc)
- Corsair 3600 Mhz 32 GB Ram (2x16)
- Ryzen 7 5800x CPU
- Corsair RMx 1000W 80+ Gold PSU fully modular
- Corsair H150i iCue Elite 360MM AIO
- 2 x WD SN570 1 TB M.2 SSD
- Corsair 5000D Airflow Case
- Corsair 4 x 120mm QL120 RGB fans with Corsair Lighting Pro expansion kit and Corsair Commander Pro
Now I want to implement my new build into my existing crosshair VIII Hero which is now 2 years old, however I have had issues with my PC whilst browsing the web or gaming, I have had boot issues where my windows wouldn't install or boot (issue was resolved) , recently had issues where my PC would freeze and my peripherals would turn off except my monitor and then was not able to turn it off with the power button ( issue IDK if it was successfully resolved as I only turned off fast boot). However I do not know if my motherboard or PSU or anything else has to share any blame I do not know tech on that level, I am not a hardcore self made overclocker, I am just a hardcore gamer who likes good looking components which are powerful in their own way and wants to play 1440p titles at minimum High settings mainly at 100+ FPS would also love to push some games to Ultra settings too. I have been doing long research but umm yeah idk if it went well lol.
My few concerns are, if I was to use my existing board with my new setup should it ideally run fine, but if I had issues with my current build would it be better to be safe and get another x570 board, sure it doesn't have to be the motherboard that causes issues it could be my existing PSU RAM storage and so on as they are old as my MB during time of installation, but in my new build all the other stuff is switching out to eliminate that hopefully.
Would love to know your thoughts and or what you would change (in my build), as I am looking to play for very very long periods of time of constant gaming and if you would consider stuff like running discord watching twitch and videos/shows/movies and running apps in the background. I have heard interesting stuff about how to boil water using AMD 6900 GPUs but maybe I can live with that.
Games I play currently, League of Legends (yes it can run on toaster), Lost Ark (MMO), Black Desert (badly optimised MMO), Single player titles such as Horizon, God of War, Tomb Raider series, Escape from tarkov, GMOD, Arma 3, Rust, Ark Survival Evolved, Dying Light 2, Call of Duty, Rainbow Six Siege, in general I will probably play a lot of upcoming games that will come around.
I was one of the lucky ones who got my 5900X shortly after launch. But now I am in waiting limbo for
a lot of parts for my build, and I am starting to reconsider my choice of MB
I have ordered a X570 Gigabyte Aorus Master, but have now started looking at the dynamic OC switching on the Dark Hero and thinking if I should go for this instead. (The Aorus is 510 USD and the Dark Hero is 675 USD here in Norway)
But I can not figure out if the DOS will have any impact on gaming. Are there any games that will benefit greater from an all core OC over a higher boost on a few cores?
If this would only be beneficial for productivity tasks, I will say "Nice to have, but not worth it" since I am also loosing a M.2 slot compared to the Aorus.
Originally posted this in r/AMDHelp, but it is not really a troubleshooting question.
Thnx in advance
My custom gaming PC "died" today for some unknown reason. It simply would not boot into Windows 10 nor Linux Mint. The operating systems would not boot; the computer would freeze with the spinning circle (Windows) or black screen (Linux). It would not reach the login screen. I spent hours trying many troubleshooting steps (explained later below).
The fix? Choose "water-cooled OC preset" from the ASUS BIOS "load optimized defaults" option in the "exit" tab. I'm still unsure how that fixed the issue, but the system has been running for hours without issue (albeit at faster CPU clocks).
System:
- Windows 10 64-bit.
- Ryzen 5950X CPU.
- G.Skill Trident Z NEO Series 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) CL16-18-18-38 1.35V Dual Channel Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C16D-64GTZN.
- ASUS ROG STRIX NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090 video card.
- Corsair RM1000x power supply.
- Noctua NH-D15 SE-AM4 air cooler.
- Samsung 970 PRO NVMe m.2 drive - 1 TB.
- 4 WD hard drives for data storage (projects/assets/video).
Before the issue began today:
I ran the computer 24/7 without issue for 4 years, with only an occasional reboot. PBO disabled for stability. Memory DOCP profile set to run DIMMs at 3200 MHz. using XMP profile. No CPU overclocks - just the normal boost (AUTO). Productivity use - coding, video editing, etc. Nothing too extreme. Recently a few reboots were needed after some storms causing power outages, and Windows 10 froze at the startup screen (the spinning circle) each time but pressing the reset button to restart the computer resolved that. That was weird but I figured Windows was recooping from the unexpected shutdowns (scanning drive/etc.). The computer ran fine for a few weeks.
The computer "died" today while compressing a large set of assets for a coding project using 7-Zip (huge 90 GB. file), then moving it from one hard drive to another. Nothing I haven't done before. But this time, Windows froze completely. No errors, no BSOD. No storms or power issues. The mouse and keyboard were unresponsive. Not even CAPS LOCK/NUM LOCK would respond. The network connection dropped. I had to turn the computer off using the PSU power switch. Once powered back on, Windows 10 began to load at the startup screen (the spinning circle), but would not ever get passed it. It would eventually try to enter Startup Repair mode but would freeze before doing so. Linux would not load either. But memory check passed. The computer would simply not load anything "heavy" outside of BIOS.
Troubleshooting:
- Ensured no cabling came loose.
- Disconnected cabling and sprayed out the case/fans with compressed air (it was very dusty).
- Disabled SATA in BIOS, enabling only the NVMe boot drive (Windows).
- Unplugged the SATA cables from the hard drives (they are just extra storage drives).
- Swapped the video card with a working spare (GTX 1080 Ti).
- Reseated the RAM sticks, and ensured they and the slots were dust-free.
- Ensured the fan speeds were at full RPM and CPU/motherboard temperatures within acceptable range (55 deg. C shown in BIOS).
- Set memory clock speed down to the default 2133 MHz., disabling Asus's DOCP profile (which uses XMP settings).
- Bumped the SOC voltage to 1.25v, up from 0.9v.
- Reset CMOS settings by removing CMOS battery for a few minutes, then reinstalling.
- Updated BIOS firmware to 4006 (the next version up from my existing 4004), and then again later to the latest 5002, using EZFlash/USB drive in BIOS.
- Running MemTest86 using a bootable USB drive, for hours. 0 errors found when running at my original settings of 3200 MHz.
- Tried booting using a Linux Mint liveboot USB drive, which the computer loads to the boot screen, but stalls when the kernel/drivers are loading (just like Windows).
- Ensured CSM was disabled for USB booting (only UEFI mode). But also tried with CSM enabled. No difference.
The last thing I tried was a weird step I normally wouldn't do (nor does it make any sense): I choose "water-cooled OC preset" from the ASUS BIOS "load optimized defaults" option in the "exit" tab in the BIOS. IT WORKED - Windows 10 is now loading and apps are functioning fine.
This "water-cooled OC preset" made some subtle tweaks to the CPU power curve, RAM settings, etc. It also lowered the RAM speed. PBO is enabled. I notice the CPU is reporting 1.3v instead of 1.4v in BIOS monitor after this change, and performance in Windows seems more responsive. I'm now hitting about 4.7 GHz. all-core. However, the CPU nearly hits 90 deg. C at full load according to Ryzen Master now, and power usage is in the red, which I want to avoid.
My original BIOS settings had PBO disabled, with conservative settings aimed at stability/longetivity. The only tweak I enabled was DOCP profile to set RAM speed to 3200 MHz. (which I paid good money to achieve).
I hope this helps anyone that believes their Ryzen CPU, ASUS motherboard, or power supply has died. One simple preset in the BIOS fixed the issue. For how long, I'm not sure. There still could be an underlying hardware issue. I will keep you all updated.