We all know there’s a new version of Windows on the way, but I’m curious.. what are your thoughts and hopes for it? What do you expect, and what would you personally like to see?
As for me, I really hope Windows 12 is actually built from scratch. Windows 11 honestly felt like Windows 10 with a fresh coat of paint. Underneath the new design, a lot of the same old components were still there. I’d love to see something that feels truly new, not just visually but structurally too.
This is my honest opinion,
No,
Because
AI crap,
Ads everywhere,
Higher stupid system requirements
when I say AI crap, I mean like it's going to be a memory hog, and Microsoft is most likely pushing it, and forcing you,
2. What i mean by Ads everywhere, I mean look at the search bar in Windows 10, and 11 they have ads and some random stuff, that i didn't ask for,
3. I mean let's be honest Windows 12 is going to be in 2027 so that means higher system requirements,
When Is Windows 12 Coming?
Since Microsoft moved to an annual feature update cadence for its desktop OS, the next logical time for Windows 12 to arrive will be around September or October 2025, tidily corresponding with the end of life for Windows 10. But given the aforementioned blog post, that now seems unlikely. If we drew a parallel with the Windows 10 lifespan, we'd get Windows 12 in 2027. Yeah, let's go with that!
Despite not getting a new major version number, the 24H2 Update of Windows 11 is based on a platform codenamed Germanium, which powers the artificial intelligence features in the new Copilot+ PCs. In fact, who's to say that Windows 12 won't require a Copilot+ PC equipped with a neural processing unit (NPU)?
In a September 2023 interview, Intel's chief financial officer predicted a boost in PC sales due to the "Windows refresh" in 2024. Qualcomm, too, released statements pointing to Windows 12 in 2024. But, in retrospect, those must have been referring to the Copilot+ version of Windows 11 24H2.
One wildcard in all this talk of Windows 12 was the departure of longtime Windows boss Panos Panay, which resulted in a restructuring of the Windows version-numbering schedule. It seems that the new team wants to wait to put its stamp on a future release.
Another consideration is that Windows 11 has only about 43% of the worldwide market share among Windows versions (according to StatCounter). Windows 10 is still ahead of it, with about 53%. Introducing another version would split up the pie further, especially considering the glacial pace at which many people upgrade.
The media says that the feature of windows 12 will focus on AI and will also require a constant internet connection.
How do you feel about that?
Will you stay on windows 10/11?
Will you be switching to linux?
When support for windows 10 ends in October, will microsoft start thinking about windows 12? Or will they continue to solely focus on 11?
I'm making this post to help stop the spam and reduce misinformation being spread online
As of the writing of this post, there is no such thing as Windows 12.
Microsoft has not yet announced the successor to its Windows 11 desktop operating system. Anything you see online regarding Windows 12 is speculation. Even the name is speculation, we do not know what it will be called, it could be Windows 12, it could be Windows 14, they could ditch the numbering again, it could be called Windows You. Microsoft has a long history of not knowing how to name their products and successors, just look at the history of the Xbox lineup. (My money is on Windows 12 Home Premium Professional 365 Plus Copilot+ Enhanced)
When is it coming? We don't know. You can find rumors online pointing to any year you want it to say. They will announce it, whatever it is, when they are ready. That could be today, tomorrow, or in 2032. Maybe they want to stick with continuing to offer newer Windows 11 versions for a while longer. It is worth noting that both Windows 10 and 11 had simultaneous feature update releases for 2021 and 2022, so even if 12 is announced it does not necessarily mean 11 is going to immediately hang out to dry. Maybe there will be another major change to MSFT's management and they will decide it is time to shake things up with Windows again.
What are the system requirements? Again we do not know. My personal speculation is that they won't be vastly different than what we see today with Windows 11, but again that is speculation. It is highly unlikely they are going to require another massive bump in requirements or require something like an NPU, which only a small percentage of computers ship with today.
Can you upgrade from Windows 11? Probably. Again speculation, but they have provided upgrade paths for all their previous releases, and backwards compatibility is the strongest feature of Windows, so it is a fairly safe assumption that anything that natively supports Windows 11 should be able to upgrade to 12. One more time, that is also speculation, but based on actual history.
Will it be a free upgrade? Probably. Before Windows 10 came out, upgrading to a newer version of Windows almost always required buying an upgrade license, however Windows 10 and 11 bucked that trend and offered free upgrades. It is reasonable to assume that Windows 12 will follow that path, but it is too soon to say for sure.
Thank you for coming to my Frog Talk. I'm sure this post is going to eventually age like milk, and knowing my luck Microsoft will announce it moments after I submit this.
If I were Microsoft, here’s how I’d make Windows 12 the best OS ever:
1️⃣ Remove unnecessary bloatware and allow uninstalling Edge easily.
2️⃣ Remove ads from Start Menu and bring back clean, simple UI.
3️⃣ Focus on ARM support before it’s too late, as x86 won’t last forever.
4️⃣ Bring back Aero Glass, but modernized to compete with macOS aesthetics.
5️⃣ Improve driver compatibility and stability like Windows XP days.
6️⃣ Consider building a modern kernel that matches today’s tech if needed.
7️⃣ Remove heavy resource hogs like Game Bar, reduce telemetry and data collection.
8️⃣ Stop forcing Microsoft accounts and internet connection for installation.
9️⃣ Make everything simpler for the user, no forced services or promos.
🔟 Add a small built-in game that becomes nostalgic for future generations, like Pinball or Purble Place did for us.
If Microsoft did this, they would pull a “Windows 7 over Vista” moment and regain user trust.
But let’s be honest, they likely won’t because:
They profit from built-in ads and pushing services (OneDrive, Edge, Bing AI).
They think users can’t leave because Linux lacks app/game support and Apple devices are expensive.
Lack of real competition makes them complacent.
💥 I wish one day Microsoft gets “AMD’d” like Intel did in 2017 so they’re forced to improve seriously. It would be a win for all PC users.
Do you think we’ll ever see a Windows that fully respects users again, or is it just wishful thinking?
anybody know anything worth sharing about windows 12? i’m wondering whether i should buy a new laptop now or wait until windows 12 rolls out…
If Windows 12 (successor of the W 11 OS) is in development, could it be possible to come out in 2027? Windows 7 came out in 2009, Windows 10 came out in 2015 (with Windows 8 in between in 2012) and Windows 11 came out in 2021. Between 7 and 10 is 6 years and between 10 and 11 is 6 years as well. Could Windows 12 come out in 2027 after 6 years of Windows 11?
Some sources say it will be released mid or late 2025 which claims I don't trust.
If so, isn't it better to wait until 2027 while continuing Windows 10 instead of upgrading to Windows 11?
If end of life cycles for the OS is approximately 10 years would you not be better off waiting two more years for installing the newest OS? End of support for windows 11 will be in circa 2031 while the successor will be supported until 2037 if it releases in 2027.
Intel CEO and Microsoft always said ''the next generation of windows''
But in the recent ''leak'', Windows Central said that's it's gonna be a BIG windows 11 update....
So maybe it's gonna be like Windows 8 to 8.1 ?
So I don't know.
I want to know if anything has changed in the last 5 months regarding buying a new computer and Windows 12.
As of today, I'm assuming Windows 12 will be coming out early 2025. If this is true, would it be best to wait to buy a new computer with Windows 12 already installed so that it meets the Hardware requirements for Windows 12 OR will it be easy to upgrade?
Thanks!
I’m making a pc and I was wondering if you guys think it would be a good idea to just do windows 12, if it’s out in spring.
24H2 is still technically Windows 11, so WHEN is WIndows 12 or 13 or whatever coming out?
I am seriously looking for a more stabile and better performing windows, and win11 and 24H2 is just not cutting it. When is the next MAJOR windows operating system (numbered) gonna release, or any ideas when it is gonna release at least?
Windows12 is coming soon.
“We actually think 2024 is going to be a pretty good year for client, in particular because of the Windows refresh,” said Intel's CFO David Zinsner during Citi’s analyst conference last month.