So i have a PROART Z790-CREATOR WIFI MBO, assembled the PC myself, worked like a glove for year and a half.. Now, soon as it's turned off, cannot power it back again normally, since it behaves like the button is pressed. It's not, it's installed properly, nothing is pressing it etc.
I can turn it on, but it's a hussle, plugging it out of power, and plugging back...
Thing is, if i return the board, it can take MONTHS untill i get it back. And i do not have budget for that.
Is there any way to disable the bios flashback optin in bios?
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Hi there, so I bought an msi b550i gaming edge wifi and was trying to flash the bios using the bios flashback feature. I followed the steps and the led successfully started blinking. But it's been 45 minutes and it won't stop blinking. I'm afraid of pulling the usb thumb drive out as Im concerned that I'll brick the motherboard. What should I do?
I flashed the bios with just the power supply and nothing else first and it seemed to go fine - blinked for a while and then stopped. I then put the rest of my build together and after turning on the power supply the BIOS flashback led won't stop blinking. I plugged the USB back in and pressed the button again and it blinked quickly and cycles between blinking quickly and slowly. The system will not post.
Parts:
Mobo: ASUS b550 TUF gaming
CPU: Ryzen 9 5900x
GPU: 3080 Strix
PSU: Corsair RM 850x
Memory: crucial ballistix 3200 mhz 32 gb
CPU cooler: Be quiet dark rock 4
SSD: SK Hynix m.2
I was tearing my damn hair out trying to make my motherboard flash the new BIOS (regardless of version as long as it supports 3000 series).
Like a lot of you guys I had issues where I knew I was doing everything right and following the instructions but it still wouldn't flash and some people had to switch usb drive, but if you are like me and only have one usb drive in your apartment and want to save yourself a trip to the store this is how I fixed it. If this turns out to be an actual fix for peoples flashing problems somebody should really make MSI post this along side their instructions!
Simply put it seems like you need to restore your USB drives to their original state (I won't pretend to know what that means but it seems like regular Windows formatting doesn't do that and so no matter how many times I formatted it would not work). I have a B450 GAMING PLUS but I think it should work with all your Tomahawks aswell.
To fix this follow these instructions to restore your USB; https://www.pendrivelinux.com/restoring-your-usb-key-partition/
(Just follow the instructions for Bootice and make sure its FAT32 as file system).
Use this tool to do it: https://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/bootice_64_bit.html
It worked instantly when I plugged it in. I really hope this helps guys I was so happy to finally get it working and wanted to share the solution for me and hopefully for you too! V18 worked for me only because that's the one I had downloaded.
EDIT: Unfortunately, as is with all things AMD and MSI, the story doesn't have a happy ending. I keep getting Windows crashes on a fresh install and it's just crazy, can't even download Ryzen master or anything. Really disappointed in all of this, especially MSI.
This is what is required for the BIOS flashback feature:
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Create an MSDOS (MBR) partition table - this is probably what you mean by returning to its original state. I believe Windows 10 defaults to a GPT partition table. I can confirm that this will not work with BIOS flashback.
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Create a single FAT32 partition
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Rename the BIOS file MSI.ROM and copy it to the USB flash drive.
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Plug ATX and CPU power cables into motherboard. Don't connect a CPU, GPU, or RAM.
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Plug flash drive into the designated USB port (see manual, back panel shows a white box around the correct port - it's next to the BIOS flashback button)
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Turn on the PSU and press the BIOS flashback button. If it works, it'll repeatedly flash red for a few minutes and you'll see activitiy on the USB drive. If it dosen't work, it'll flash red for a few seconds and then turn off (this is what happens with a GPT partition table).
This sadly did nothing for my issue. problem i have is that when i hit flashback button it would flash on and off the led for 2 mins then it would stick on red led next to the i/o i just cant seem to flash any bios at all with this feature i need help badly
Trying to update the BIOS, watched the tutorial on the ASUS website. LED is supposed to turn off when update is finished, but it been on for over an hour. Wondering if it usually takes this long. Video said not to power off computer, remove flash drive, or press reset cmos button.
I wanted to write about my own experience with updating the BIOS on a MSI motherboard for anyone upgrading to 3rd Gen Ryzen, as the stuff I read online were not very helpful.
My setup is: B450 MSI Tomahawk, Ryzen 5 3600
Download the latest BIOS Version from MSI's website and then copy and paste only the BIOS file to a FAT32 USB Thumbdrive of less than 16GB. Leave the text file alone, don't copy that.
Rename the BIOS file to MSI.ROM
Shut down your PC, unplug the power cord and locate the CMOS Battery, which is a button cell battery. Either short the two pins beside the battery labelled BAT1 for 5 to 10 seconds or remove the battery and wait at least 20 minutes before reinserting.
Don't install the CPU yet. Plug your PC back in and turn it on. If you use the same mobo as me, you should see that the red LED on the top right near the 24 pin ATX connector for the CPU should be lit up.
Plug in your thumbdrive into the BIOS Flashback USB Slot on the back of your mobo then press the small button above it. The red LED on the top LEFT side of the mobo should start flashing. Do not turn off the PC or wiggle the thumbdrive. If the LED flashes for less than 5 seconds, repeat the steps again, you might have done something wrong.
Let the LED Flash. After a while your PC should restart. Switch it off again and install your CPU and the rest of your components.
You should have successfully completed your BIOS update and brought your non-X570 motherboard up to date. Good luck!
I actually have 2 things to add. It'll be a long comment, and afterwards, you can message me or comment here and I will help you if you have issues turning your pc on with a ryzen cpu
First thing will be how to flash a 5000/5000G series (5600G/5700G) on AM4 boards featuring a Flashback button like my Asus TUF B550M-E WIFI. But any cpu would work similarly.
Second, when you are at your wits end, broken inside and desperate cause your new Ryzen PC won't post or boot, trust me, you are not alone in this and I'll try to help. I had 4 days of pure hell that my stomach hurt from stress cause I poured all my money into a PC that didn't work even when all components were brand new, all was plugged in correctly and each component was working on its own. I'll write my story down below.
1 - HOW TO USE FLASHBACK
This is purely for the guys who can't turn their PC on, monitor says "no signal" and the PC acts like it's dead. Its 99% the Bios. Or something is broken like mobo or psu. The new 5000 series Ryzen CPUs aren't recognized by most boards out of the box. You need to flash the bios. You do this with either a 3000 ryzen cpu (which ofc most of us don't have) or a flashback button. Newer boards have a button at the back where the USB and display ports are. Usually it's at the top. It's called a flashback button and allows you to flash new bios you need without a cpu.
To flash the board so it recognizes your cpu, which is why the pc won't post or boot most of the time, you need to go to the official manufacturer website and download the new/newest BIOS. For Asus, you download the bios file and with it the Asus renamer app gets downloaded too.
MSI bios file needs to be renamed to "MSI.ROM" Other manufacturers work siniakrlyy just check their support site.
Once the bios is downloaded to a pc, extract it and run the renamer app. It will automatically rename the downloaded bios so the board recognizes it via its name. In my case, it renamed the asustufb550biosfile to "TB550MEW.CAP" which is whorter for TUF B550M-E WIFI. It might show the renamed bios file without the affix like "TB550MEW", that's OK. Once it's renamed, copy the renamed bios to a FAT32 formated USB. It can be USB 2.0 or USB 3.0, doesn't matter. You just need to copy the bios file directly onto the USB without a folder. Basically to the "root of the USB". Once it's on the USB, you need to put it in the BIOS USB port. It's usually not directly under the flashback button. You have maybe 6 USB ports on your motherboard but only one USB is the correct one. On your mobo backplate, it shows which it is. If you don't have a backplate (doubt it), it says so in the manual.
Once the USB flash drive with the renamed bios is in the correct USB bios port, you need to press the flashback button for 3 seconds, then you release it and it will blink for 4-5 minutes in a green or red light. That means it's flashing the bios. And once it stops blinking, you have a Ryzen 4000/5000/G supported board.
HOWEVER! YOU DO ALL THIS WITH NOTHING ATTACHED TO THE BOARD, JUST THE USB WITH THE BIOS AND THE PSU (POWER SUPPLY)
Your psu is connected to the outlet and connected to the mobo with just 2 connectors : 24pin (main power for mobo) and 1x4pin/2x4pin CPU power cable. Nothing else is attached. No CPU, no drives, RAM or GPU! Just PSU and Board are used to flash the BIOS + the USB with bios.
Once the bios flashback light stops blinking, you switch your psu off (with the button, if it has one) and take out the USB flash drive. Then you connect the CPU with cooler (no need to screw it down yet, it's a test), and just one stick of RAM - if you have 4 RAM slots, put it in the second farthest from the CPU socket in B1 (from cpu A1, B1, A2, B2) You still don't connect drives or fans. You just want to test the bios. If you have integrated GPU on CPU (iGPU on APU), you don't even put in a dedicated GPU. You connect the monitor and turn the PC on via case or screw driver (look "How to turn pc on with screw driver" on YouTube). If it shows option to enter bios, you are good to go. If it doesn't show after few seconds, take the cpu out and place it back and try to boot again. Once the bios shows, connect everything install Windows/Linux and have a nice day. If it doesn't.... Read number 2:
2 - WHAT HAPPENED TO ME - ISSUES YOU MIGHT ENCOUNTER
I have build many PCs, both for home or gaming. I flashed bios many times. Never have I had so much issue with a new 2021 cpu like the 5600G (280$) and a new Asus B550 board (120$). When it at first didn't work, I was baffled for a second, then realized the bios needs flashing. I thought, I will flash this mobo and I'll have a working gaming PC ASAP by the time I drink my coffee. Well, 4 days later, 3 boards tested, 250 miles driven from home to tore to friend and back in heavy xmas holiday traffic, I was on my 20th coffee, head ache pills,almost crying grown ass man and my eyes hurt from all the tech sites and videos. My shoulders hurt form dismantling 3 PCs (one was my friend's pc) like 8 times! So why didn't an 800$ mid range gaming PC with superb specs all brand new, work? Well... PC case... Yes. Pc cases.
Flashed the b550 bios with 3 different bioses. Nothing. Used friends ryzen 3600 build and B450 gigabyte. Nothing. Used shop's MSI B450 mortar Max. Worked. Put it back into case. Didn't work. Returned it for an msi B450 tomahawk Max. Worked. I put it into a different case. Worked. Disconnected psu cables and put inside my case....nothing. I was about to break from the stress. I just couldn't figure out why new pc with appropriate bios doesn't boot or post. I flashed the board 3x and it worked and then shortly after didn't. And then I read something about static electricity and I couldn't believe it. The 1st board I got, the Asus tuf B550M-E WIFI, which I wanted to return as faulty or whatnot, after 4 days of other boards, Worked for the 1st time...outside the case, I was so happy. Then I put it into my main case. And it didn't work. Then I learned about the static electricity or something. Sounds stupid absurd silly. Sounds like I'm writing this out of my ass! But it was just that! and since I cleaned the case with water damped towel, it works flawlessly.
Summary:
It is the outdated bios, but then it was the case. You need to flash the bios, but a lose cable or anything I mention above can cause the pc to not post or boot. Some older PCs can boot into bios without cpu, ryzen won't. I learned that the hard way after watching confidently a YouTube video "how to boot pc without cpu or ram" So apparently, the very first day I did flash the board correctly, but a case just prevented me from everything. I pointlessly dismantled friends pc, spend 40$ on gas, made me kinda sick and feeling like dying for 4 days.
For any questions contact me. I'll help you work this out. I've seen hundreds of posts like this by people desperately trying to solve this mess
Hello,
I just built my pc with a B550-f and theres a button “bios flashback” what is it? I just press on it and it puts my bios up to date?