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I'm a bit confused with the down fill power and associated warmth (thermal tested). Can someone please explain how with lower down fill power one jacket has higher warmth level compared to another with higher down fill power?
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Can someone please explain how with lower down fill power one jacket has higher warmth level compared to another with higher down fill power? More down. 600 vs 800 isn't a rating of warmth so much as it's a rating of volume. 1 oz of 800 power down fills more space than an ounce of 600 power down. However, if the 600 jacket has more down in it...it'll be warmer (but heavier). There's other facts as well, including baffle design, face materials, etc. But, they don't list have much down is in each jacket, so it's tough to say 100% why the lower fill power jacket is rated as warmer. That said, 'warmth' is also extremely relative. Insulation just keeps your body heat in as much as possible. Everyone is different in regard to how much excess heat they produce, as well as their tolerance for cold. My wife can wear an expedition grade down jacket and still feel cold in 20* weather, whereas I don't even really start cracking out my midweight down hoody until then...and even then I'll probably keep it unzipped because otherwise I'll overheat. Throw in some weather variables (relative humidity, wind, etc) and comparing two jackets is going to be tough without really trying them out yourself.
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Honestly the one with the LOWER fill power looks warmer. The first, higher fill one mentions an "extreme" rating that apparently includes 'waterproof and breathable'... though from the pics, that does NOT look like a waterproof shell. DWR, sure. Not familiar with this brand but I'd doubt that's waterPROOF. Fill power.. 600 vs 700... is a measure of the QUALITY of the feathers... There's not much difference between 600 and 700. If you're looking at 550 vs 1000, now we're talking different. And often high fill power jackets are going to assume you're moving, hiking, climbing, and generating heat. It's a performance item. A thin 900 fill is gonna be chilly when you're just sitting around... Fill power matters more to folks who are (back)packing... for whom weight and compression are paramount. If that's not you... thicker jackets are warmer than thinner jackets. Ignore the ratings.
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