I’ve been looking at getting a Razer huntsman mini or special edition. What switch option would be best for response time in game and can u adjust the actuation point of them?

Ive been thinking to buy a razer mechanical keyboard ended up on the huntsman mini but dunno if red is better or purple.

Do the reds sound like membranes?

Has anyone used a mouse with Razer's optical switches for an extended period of time? I've gone through 3+ mice in the same number of years all of which started to develop clicking problems after 10 months or so. Razer claims these optical switches don't have the same QC issues the Omron ones have had, but I wanted to know if anyone can verify those claims.

I'm looking specifically at the Naga Epic

Edit: To clear things up, I've been using mice with Omron switches, and have had issues. I'm wondering if people have had better experiences with Razer's optical switches.

So I've heard both that the gen-3 switches feel worse than the gen-2, and also that they are indistinguishable from each other. If you have used both, which do you prefer and why? Can you tell them apart?

Okay I know this might be a bit of a controversial post as the new linear switches from Razer are ridiculously smooth and perfect for gaming but I’m going to proceed to rant here.

I bought the new Huntsman TE with a great deal ($40 of retail) and I absolutely love the keyboard so much. Literally everything about it is perfect... the keycaps are double shot PBT from the factory, the standard bottom row allows for better customization, the keyboard has an aluminum backplate and feels very sturdy, and you get to use Razer’s software which is arguably some of the best on the market. However, I have one massive problem with the keyboard. The actuation distance is 1mm which is, in other words, RIDICULOUSLY short. Most other switches fall somewhere around 1.8-2mm which is really the perfect spot and I have no idea why Razer had to go ahead and practically ruin this otherwise perfect keyboard with such a short actuation distance. I mean seriously Razer your keyboards are usually decent but also kinda junk, and the ONE TIME you listen to your customers and make the best keyboard you’ve ever made, you had to screw it up with a switch that is so light that you can practically type on it by breathing. I feel like the only reason Razer did this was to top their other linear switch, the Razer Yellows, which were at 1.2mm and also had the same problem with typing. I know this isn’t even branded for typing at all but the actuation distance is so incredibly short that it begins to affect your in game performance. I constantly find myself drifting to the right or left when I didn’t even know I was touching the A or D keys and I have to literally focus to not press any other keys except for the ones I mean to press. I know that there is a bit of a learning curve with keyboards like this, but I didn’t think that it’d be this difficult. Keyboards shouldn’t be something you have to re-learn how to use.

Seriously Razer, you’ve made a perfect keyboard except for this one fatal flaw. It was reasonably priced, and you finally listened to your customers here and have given them everything they wanted, but trying to top your fastest Razer Yellow switches was just completely unnecessary. I know these linear switches are still fairly new, and personally I think you should make them somewhere around 1.5mm instead of 1mm.

I am prepared to get a lot of downvotes here but I just wanted to say this cause it’s really annoying me and if they just increased the actuation distance by a little bit it’d make this the best keyboard on the market for its price bar none.

TL;DR Razers new Huntsman TE is perfect but suffers from an extremely short actuation distance at 1mm which forces you to literally tread on eggshells when using it.

[Posting this on behalf of u/Razer-Right]

Since the launch of the Razer Viper Ultimate Quartz & Mercury Edition, there have been many questions around optical switches that the team and myself tried to answer, but is likely too all over the place, so I figured ill try and sum everything up here.

While we received some amazing feedback on our optical switches, there has also been some feedback that our optical switches aren't as crisp as some mechanical switches (mostly here on the mousereview sub). While global return rates/overall sales isn't necessarily reflective of that sentiment, we want to cater to the most demanding of users (e.g. you). That's why we have been and are continuing to work on improving our switches.

So let's talk specifics (I'm simplifying a little in the following):

We evaluate switches on 3 dimensions: Speed, Reliability/Durability, Tactility/Acoustics. Our optical switches are outclassing everything else in both speed and reliability (we can dive deeper on this another time, but suffice to say double clicks are physically impossible with no need for debounce and the end-to-end latency for a click beats mechanical giving you split-second advantages).

When it comes to tactility, there is multiple factors that play into it. (Pre/post) travel, actuation force, springback force (the three combined become what we call click ratio) and for all of these individual factors consistency between them. These are all affected by both the switch and the mechanical design of the mouse itself.

We've decided that even though tactility was still an area for possible improvement the other 2 factors are more crucial as eliminating doubleclicks in particular was important as it is literally making mice unusable.

So where are we with Optical Switches now:

Since we first launched them on the Viper we made several small improvements both on the switch and on the mechanical design of our more recent launches, which is why every model will feel a bit different than previous mice.

The improvements were to reduce tolerance for pre/post travel, increase springback force (making them less "mushy") and through more stringent sorting bring more consistency in both those areas, as well, while actuation force itself went mostly unchanged.

Important to note here that the reduced tolerances and stringent sorting primarily reduces the amount of bad units, as opposed to making the good ones better.

These changes have been rolled out to most of our mice including already launched models (like the black Razer Viper Ultimate).

How can you make sure you buy one with all improvements?

Not really possible nor needed. The changes were small improvements rolled out over time and the key is really just to get a feel for the clicks and see if they're decent and not worry about the rest.

If you want to increase your chances, buying direct or failing that from fast-selling Onliners is likely your best bet as they turn around inventory the fastest and thus are most likely to have newer production batches.

That being said, we're not done yet, either. So 3 or 6 months from now there may be improvements yet again, as we're continuing to finetune the switches, the designs and production tolerances with all the feedback we get.

When should you return your mouse?

If it's faulty. If you get loud creaking or scratching sound. If during normal use, the buttons wobble affecting your gameplay.

You should not return it because it's less crisp than mechanical.

What else can you do?

Two things:

Keep your feedback coming, but also be precise. Telling us "your buttons suck" doesnt help us. Describe your feedback as detailed as possible and let us hear about it. Also let us know if you feel like the improvements we made are good.

If you see questions around any of the above, link them to this thread (which will likely turn into a complaint thread, but that's ok. It helps us get better).

Hopefully this sheds some light on everything. Rest assured, we're here to listen and not downplay or dismiss feedback. And we aren't avoiding the "difficult questions". The difficult questions are what makes this sub so interesting.

You guys need anything ping u/Razer-Right /u/razer_thefiend or myself.

I own the DAv3 for some time now, had it even replaced with a new one at some point and eventhough the newer DAv3 had slightly stiffer switches (probably due to manufacturing variation), the switches still felt the same.

With the Viper V3 Pro however, which also uses gen3 opticals from Razer, the switches felt significantly different, less tactile, almost mushy, and overall less satisfying imo.

Did I get a bad batch Viper V3, or is the vastly different click feel normal?

I'm trying to replace my G403 which had wonderfully light switches and there doesn't seem to be a lot of research material around comparing the actuation force of different mice. Are the Razer v3 opticals light or reasonably light? If not, is there a non-Logitech (never again) alternative you might suggest?

I'm getting the DeathStalker V2 Pro keyboard for Christmas but it uses the linear optical switches. This was the hardest decision to decide if I want the wireless keyboard with a clickiness that I was okay with or a wired keyboard with awesome RGB lighting and macros where I loved the sound of the Razer Orange Tactile Mechanical Switch Gen-3. For practicality (because I use 3 different devices that utilizes the same keyboard, I went with the DeathStalker.

All this being said, does anyone have any recommendations on switches compatible with the DeathStalker V2 Pro that give that same deeper sounding clicking as the Orange Tactile switches?

Hi everyone! I have been using the Viper Mini for 3 years now and decided to upgrade to the Viper V3 Pro but I don't like the hard clicks. I want to swap the switches from the Viper Mini Gen 1 to the Viper V3 Pro. As far as I heard, all Razer mice have hot-swappable optical switches after watching the Viper V3 Pro teardown video but I don't know anyone who has swapped switches yet. I wonder if anyone has any experience swapping Viper V3 Pro switches to other Razer optical switches and how it feels after the swap? I would be very grateful

I'm currently deciding wether to buy the Naga V2 Hyperspeed or the Naga V2 Pro.

As I don't need the swappable side panels, I can imagine being fine with the V2 Hyperspeed. Especially with the weight difference.

However, the Naga V2 Pro has the newer Optical Switches. Are they a gamechanger, at least noticable, or do they matter at all?

Saw a good offer of the Razer Huntsman mini with red switches. Unfortunately I didn’t find much about the red ones on the internet. Mor about green, yellow or orange. Are the reds also optical?

Hey everyone!

I’ve been looking to downsize my keyboard from the Huntsman Elite to a Huntsman Mini. I used prefer the clicky optical (purple) switches, but I am in love with my friend’s optical analog switches on his huntsman and I am ready to make the change! I noticed the Huntsman V3 Pro Mini comes standard with the Gen-2 switches and original Huntsman Mini has an “analog version” with the Gen-1 switches. Currently, the V3 Pro Mini is listed for $179.99 and the original Mini Analog is listed for $79.99 (on discount from $149.99).

My major questions before purchasing are…

1. What are the differences between the Optical Analog Gen-1 Switches and the Optical Analog Gen-2 Switches?

2. Is the difference large enough to justify the current $100 difference between the Huntsman V3 Pro Mini and the Huntsman Mini Analog?

3. Are there any other notable differences between the two keyboards beyond the Gen-1 to Gen-2 switch upgrade?

I’ve looked around the internet and couldn’t find much help on this topic. Thank you for reading and replying! Have a good day :)

I'm sick of mice with double-click issues and broken switches and I've always assumed it was because of the humidity where I live which causes tiny amounts of corrosion over time until the mouse just stops being able to click. I've temporarily fixed the problem before by spraying contact cleaner into the contacts, but the problem always eventually comes back.

Razer's optical switches on mice have been out for a few years now and I'm considering getting one of their mice. I'd like to know what to expect.

Who here got a Razer mouse with their optical switches? How is it? Are doubleclick/no-click problems still a thing? Any other issues? Practical pros and cons? What are the first things that break after years of use?

I have a razer naga x, and I want to change the switches to something a bit more that matches my logitech g pro x superlight.

if anyone has any good switch suggestions let me know. I do a ton of clicking ( work mouse, cad drafter ) and want something a bit lighter clicking that won't wear my fingers out.

since they are optical, are they special? or do you just solder them out like any other switch?

I just bought my Pulsar Xlite V3 10 days ago. It felt great for the first 5 days until I noticed the right click started to feel weird. It felt like there was a bit of sand rubbing between the click. It was a bit weird, but it didn't really bother me at first. However, it's gotten worse to a point where I can actually notice the scratchy-ness in-game. I can even hear that the scratching sound coming from it, and it is frustratingly annoying to use.

I contacted the reseller but couldn't return it because I bought it online, and the proof - a video showing the slight scratching sound the click makes - I provided wasn't evident enough for them to recall it.

I was pretty upset and disappointed, so I decided to crack it open to see the issue. And well, the scratching sound was coming from the infamous Raesha's switch.

I then ordered a 3rd party one to replace it, BUT now the LEFT CLICK started to have the same issue. The mouse is not even 2 weeks old, and the clicks are already deteriorating.

I'm sick of Raesha's crappy clicks, so can I use Razer's opticals v2 instead? Saw some being sold online and I heard that they can be installed on my Xlite V3 (also is their quality better than Raesha's ?)

I was at Best Buy today and looked at the razor deathstalker V2 and love the feeling of the red linear Optical switches. I love them because they require a very short key press and I can tell when they are pushed. The challenge is that I feel like the deathstalker V2 is very overpriced and I don't need a lot of the gaming or multimedia buttons or Wireless. So my question is does razor make a keyboard that is low profile with the optical linear red switches?