Overclocking and enabling PBO worth it for 5600X?

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Use PBO but also set the Curve Optimizer to -10 (or lower if it’s stable) to undervolt and lower the temperature. Then you can boost higher, for longer, at lower temperatures. Answer from Stock-Freedom on reddit.com

reddit.com › r/amd › overclocking and enabling pbo worth it for 5600x?

r/Amd on Reddit: Overclocking and enabling PBO worth it for 5600X?

April 23, 2021 -

I had 3700x before and people here on reddit as well as reviewers on youtube they said its not worth OC'ng because therr will be no real gain with added CPU temp. So I always used it PBO disabled in BIOS.

I recently got 2 5600x from Amazon at 299$ (feeling happy) Is it worth OC'ng or enabling PBO? I have MSI B450 Tomahawk Max; cooling with Scythe Fuma 2.

I assume with OC and PBO enabled there will be increased temp - but how much more temp are we talking here 10-15? Pls advice. Thanks

Use PBO but also set the Curve Optimizer to -10 (or lower if it’s stable) to undervolt and lower the temperature. Then you can boost higher, for longer, at lower temperatures.

For my 5600X with Hyper 212 BE cooler while running Cinebench: Single-core, PBO disabled: peaks at 58C, 4.65GHz Single-core, PBO enabled: peaks at 60C, 4.80GHz (because I use +150MHz boost override) Multi-core, PBO disabled: peaks at 60C, 4.15GHz Multi-core, PBO enabled: peaks at 80C, 4.65GHz In single-core, the difference in frequency and temps is minimal. In multi-core, the difference in frequency is appreciable (500MHz), but with a huge 20C temperature difference. In exchange for that extra heat, you'll get ~10% higher benchmark scores and your renders/encodes will finish ~10% faster. In games, you probably won't notice any difference, since they won't use every core and they'll be GPU bottlenecked. In fact, I ran a couple of quick benches of Shadow of the Tomb Raider, which is one of the more CPU-demanding games, and got the same framerate with PBO disabled and enabled. Honestly, it's probably not worth it to enable PBO unless you just enjoy tweaking, getting the most out of your system and getting higher benchmark scores. I'm one of those people, so it's worth it to me. It's more for the sense of pride than any tangible benefits. If tangible benefits are all that matter to you, though, and especially if most of what you do is gaming, you may just care to leave PBO off.

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r/overclocking on Reddit: 5600x PBO

December 8, 2022 -

Is there any specific PBO setting I need to set for it to work the best? I heard about some TDC EDC PPT bug where u set it too high u get lower performance but don't know exactly what's that about, also do earlier versions of AGESA have better PBO performance ?

The 5600x even when OCd wont need 140 tdc, so it wont effect u

I have also been looking for a few weeks, i set TDC 120, PPT 120 and EDC 90 with scalar x1 and CO . On cb23 i have 117XX all core and 159X single core, i know i can have better so i'm the same as u if anyone has the answer

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reddit.com › r/amdhelp › pbo and cbp off or on ? ryzen 5600x

r/AMDHelp on Reddit: PBO and CBP off or on ? Ryzen 5600X

July 18, 2023 -

Hey guys, I just disabled PBO and CBP because my cpu temps when playing are going into the high 80+

I saw a decrease of 20°C and the performance are not too much affected. I play on a 1080P monitor.

I just added a new front case fan in order tonhave a better airflow and changed the thermal paste.

Last time I was playing Tales of Arise on the best settings possiboe and after an hour of gaming my pc jusy stopped so I assumed it was because of overheating. (It happened twice)

I have an Rx 6600 XT for a gpu and my power unit is only 550 so i was wondering if it could've been because i was drawing too much power from it ? Anyways i'll test it again to seenit my computer crashes again.

Are Cbp and PBO disabled going to affect my performances a lot ?

If you look the benchmarks of PBO off vs on, the result are marginal, imperceptible in the practice. And, we are talking with a high ends GPUs. If you have the stock cooler and a bad case, well, might be not enough even for PBO off for low temps, but, still, 80c is high but not high enough to turn off your PC. Disable any PBO or OC in the CPU and check if you have temperature problems and if you can keep your temps around 75 as high/max under load.

reddit.com › r/amd › ryzen 5 5600x auto oc vs pbo

r/Amd on Reddit: Ryzen 5 5600x Auto OC vs PBO

March 8, 2023 -

Does Auto OC on the 5600x benefit gaming more than PBO or does PBO let you have higher FPS and temps?

If AutoOC is set too high you get a clock-stretching scenario (so it's not actually reaching the target frequency under like a single core load). But you can use AutoOC with PBO and Curve Optimizer to get the best results (cooling/voltage depending). There will likely be a sweet spot, though, for your given processor, motherboard, and cooling setup. This is not an exact example, but something like a +75Mhz AutoOC, Curve Optimizer set to a per-core range of -15 to -25 (after testing each core), and PBO set to defaults (that can be read out in Ryzen Master) or tuned to user's preference may score measurably better in all-core and single core. Where as a yolo'ed +200, CO at -25 or -30 for all cores, and PBO's EDC set too high may not, immediately, seem unstable, but also isn't showing the same, good test scores the first example was. There are variations on this too (like lowering EDC as needed, for example, or even setting a max proc temp in the BIOS, too...) depending one's cooling situation or need (like maybe you'll never really do any all-core rendering/encoding on your 5600X so why both pushing all-core frequencies too hard to start with if, maybe, the cooler was a simple, small single tower design with a single fan in a stuffy case). Here's an older thread on optimizing these settings, if you're interest (fantastic YouTube video with charts, too): https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/lgyppj/my_ryzen_5000_pbo_2_curve_optimizer_guide/

Better off with pbo and negative co per core

reddit.com › r/overclocking › lower temps on 5600x (pbo is already off)

r/overclocking on Reddit: Lower temps on 5600x (Pbo is already off)

July 24, 2022 -

Yes, i know the obvious answer would be "get a better cooler"But atm, when playing demanding games i reach around 80c on my 5600x, which im not used to.

I have no idea if 80c is fine or will reduce the lifespan in the long run, i see many different responses on reddit etc, so i think the most safe option would be, to just get a bit lower temps just to make sure.

Is there any way to reach lower temps without buying an aftermarket cooler? Ive read a lot about undervolting, but im not rly sure how to do it safely.

So now im seeking a solution Obviously without too much of an performance loss

Greetings

80c is perfectly fine, especially with the stock cooler. These chips are designed to run upwards of 95c, past that and they’ll throttle. if you want lower you can look into undervolting, or buying a better cooling solution

80C is 100% fine, most CPUs are ok up to 100C or so. To be super clear CPU's have a lot of safety stuff, you have to be active to damage them (ie put super bad settings in to BIOS). There will be no problems, relax and have fun.

reddit.com › r/overclocking › unsure about pbo settings (ryzen 5 5600x)

r/overclocking on Reddit: Unsure about PBO settings (Ryzen 5 5600X)

November 9, 2022 -

Hello, I have recently upgraded to a Ryzen 5 5600X, and I'm completely new to PBO overclocking. I've been playing around with all the different settings and trying to figure out the best possible configuration for my CPU. I feel like I'm definitely doing something wrong because I can't even seem to reach 12 000 points on the Cinebench R23 benchmark, which I've heard is pretty standard for a good overclock. Could my RAM be the bottleneck here? It's also rather strange that I don't get any errors even after setting the Curve Optimizer to -30 all core (tested with both OCCT and CoreCycler for a few hours). Any help would be appreciated!

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I'm not 100% about it but I don't think you can hit 12000 with the stock cooler. You'll also need +200 clock enhancement with adequate cooling. Once +200 is set it's highly unlikely that -30 will be stable. Cinebench is not memory limited. For that Timespy CPU is a good BM. My 5600 scored 8400 with 2x8 3600 and 8900 with 4x8 3800.

Try a MHz boost of 150 and see if it works because I don't think this is stable and if still want the +200 try lowering the CO and see if it helps. My 5600x got about 11.6k with +200 and co of -30 and a score of 12.1k with +150 and co -30

reddit.com › r/amd › what is the correct value for using pbo with ryzen 5600x?

r/Amd on Reddit: What is the correct value for using pbo with ryzen 5600x?

September 1, 2022 -

Hi guys, I'm using PBO + CO on my ryzen 5600X + Asus b450m Pro S + Deepcool GTE v2 air cooler.

The CO values are -9,-11,-19-19-19-15, (tested with CoreCycler and Prime95) and the PBO values are in PPT 117, TDC 71, EDC 118.

With this configuration and test on the cinbench r23, I get approximately 4.8-4.85GHz on my best core, with a temperature of 83°, 1.26v and 116W.

I want to know if there is anything to improve, and to clear a doubt about the PPT, TDC and EDC values, because, during the stress tests, these values were 96% of use, observing by Hwinfo64, is this percentage of use correct? Or does it not matter? Can I increase the PPT and decrease the EDC ??

Honestly cinebench is a useless benchmark. As much as I loved using it its just mediocre. It isn't very intensive so it's a pretty bad stability tester. When tuning with PBO you really want a stability test that slams the cpu. The only reason cinebench is liked as much as it is, is because it's interactive and shows the rendering progress. For all you know you could boot up a game and crash right there.

You need to use OCCT and run per core testing, rotating each stress test for about 5 mins per core. The app allows you to rotate the testing automatically. Run the rotation test for about 1 hour, but the longer the better. This is really the only way to successfully test CO settings. Otherwise your blindly setting values without really knowing if it's stable. Also you want to run different stress loads low/medium/high, which can be done in the OCCT settings. A lot of the time instability in CO is when most cores are idle.

reddit.com › r/amd › ryzen 5600x pbo vs auto oc?

r/Amd on Reddit: Ryzen 5600x PBO vs Auto OC?

August 27, 2021 -

Been looking into what to do with my 5600x and I settled on Auto OC as I found it to give me the higher clock speed at 4.75ghz, although my experience is very limited.

I looked up some benchmarks comparing different settings for the Ryzen 5600x performance wise, and Auto OC looks like it does the same as manual overclock and PBO, am I wrong?

If all the results are pretty much the same would I just leave it on Auto OC to save myself the headache?

You can learn some things from watching how your CPU behaves with AutoOC, but it's not the best method of improving performance. Here's the easiest method of getting the most out of Zen3. The only shortcoming with this method is that it's a process that will take you a month (or more) of casual testing, but it comes with the perk that you only need to use your system as usual, and it should result in less instability/crashing/clock stretching from other approaches. First of all, if you're on the stock cooler, it's not good enough, and you will need to upgrade the cooling if you want to pursue this method. Also, either use Ryzen Master to revert your chip to stock settings, or disable Precision Boost Overdrive in your BIOS in the AMD Overclocking section. Download CPU-Z https://www.cpuid.com/softwares/cpu-z.html and run the built in benchmark to get a baseline. It's a quick bench, but it's also excellent for reading how your chip reacts to your settings. Go into your BIOS and look for the AMD overclocking section, and then enter the Precision Boost Overdrive subsection. Don't touch anything else other than simply enabling Precision Boost Overdrive, and setting up a frequency override of +200MHz. Save the BIOS settings and boot to Windows. Also, make sure the voltage scalar is disabled, or on 1X only, you don't want this set up right now. Download and install HWiNFO64. https://www.hwinfo.com/download/ and look for the section that shows "Effective Clocks" for each of your cores. Download and run u/Jedi95 's Boost Tester: https://github.com/jedi95/BoostTester/releases With your +200MHz frequency override setup, note down your cores with the lowest effective frequency in HWiNFO64 while running Boost Tester. This number will determine where you're going to set your frequency override to begin using Curve Optimizer. Once you've determined your lowest boosting cores, go back into your BIOS and select the closest lower Frequency Override value to your lowest observed effective clock in HWiNFO64. (IE; if your effective clock was 4850MHz, set the frequency override so you land on 4825MHz) In your BIOS, set Precision Boost Overdrive to Motherboard. This allows your chip to take full advantage of your motherboards VRM current capability if temperatures/voltage/frequency parameters are not the limiting factor. Still in the Precision Boost Overdrive section in your BIOS, you'll now set up Curve Optimizer along with your Frequency Override. Start with a negative 5 all-core. Run the Frequency Override + negative 5 all-core Curve Optimizer in your normal usages for 3-5 days. Check CPU-Z bench and verify if you have improved performance with your settings, and check HWiNFO + Boost tester to see if your effective clocks are higher. Over the course of your test period, look out for any application crashing, and check Event Viewer for any WHEA errors. If you have no crashes or oddities in this time period, lower Curve Optimizer by 5 again, and use the system for 3-5 more days. Eventually you will find a Curve Optimizer offset that isn't stable. Add +5 back to your negative offset. At this point you are done, Congrats on the performance increase! You can go further with a per-core negative offset and voltage scalars, but work on getting an all-core offset and a frequency override stable first before you start thinking about that.

For heavily threaded workloads like video editing pbo is preferred. For lightly threaded or mixed workloads like gaming and encoding auto oc is awesome. I read that in an article. I use Auto OC but my offset is +200 MHz so I'm running 4.85 ghz on all cores.

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reddit.com › r/buildapc › ryzen 5600x - almost 20c difference with pbo on vs off

r/buildapc on Reddit: Ryzen 5600x - almost 20c difference with pbo on vs off

November 13, 2020 -

PBO on - all cores boost to 4.6ghz with avg temp of 78c
PBO off - all cores boost to 4.3ghz with some 4.6ghz now and then. avg temp 55c

My question is should I turn PBO on or off, performance in games is almost the same (5 fps difference). I dont want to run this cpu at almost 80c... Voltages with pbo where 0.1v higher than without (1.38v with pbo).

CPU: ryzen 5600x
MBO: x570 tuf
COOLER: CM ml240l AIO
RAM: Ballistix 16gb 3600 cl16

80 is fine for a CPU.

thats not a question we can answer. its subjective. is the extra noise worth it to you for that extra performance? if yes leave it on. if no turn it off.

80C is a perfectly safe temp for it. dont base your choice on temp

reddit.com › r/overclocking › 5600x pbo is giving me a headache.

r/overclocking on Reddit: 5600x PBO is giving me a headache.

September 10, 2023 -

I've read countless guides and can't seem to figure out what I should be aiming for in regards to PPT,TDC,EDC to even get to the CO part of the testing.

In Ryzen master if I select the following i get these results.

Default settings - PPT = 76w, TDC = 60A. EDC = 90a
Ryzen stress test - Peak speed = 3780, Temp = 63c, PPT = 100%, TDC = 91%, EDC = 74%

PBO 1 settings - PPT = 80w, TDC = 70a, EDC =100a
Ryzen stress test - Peak speed = 3820, Temp = 65.5, ppt= 100%, TDC = 83%, EDC = 69%.

PBO 2 settings - PPT = 90w, TDC = 80a, EDC = 110a
Ryzen stress test - Peak speed - 4000, Temp = 69c, ppt = 100%, TDC 79%, EDC = 72%.

PBO 3 settings - PPT = 100w, TDC = 90a, EDC = 120a
Ryzen stress test - Peak speed - 4100, Temp = 76c, PPT = 100%, TDC = 79%, EDC = 71%.

The part that is throwing me is how low all my settings are in comparison to other guides for the 5600x saying should be able to do 150-200w PPT, 90-150a for TDC and 120-200a for EDC.

If I set anywhere close to these I auto hit 90c and end the test before it hits 95c.

So am I doing something wrong? Thanks for any advice once I know what combo to stick with I will then move on to the Curve testing portion, just need to know what would be correct to input into manual PBO settings for PPT,TDC,EDC.

What are you using for a CPU cooler? Also I personally prefer to start with CO since it generally leads to lower temps and higher efficiency. Then you can just set TDC and EDC to stupid numbers and gradually increase PPT until you have instability, clock stretching or thermal issues. Then back it down to temps you're comfortable with. Once you find a PPT that doesn't make you uncomfortable, you can dial in TDC and EDC if you want. Of course you'll also want to dial in a boost override as well if you run a lot of single-core loads.

Ryzen 5600X does 120W tops ! Doesnt matter if you give him PPT value of 1000W (you can BTW) . Use Curve optimizer to downvolt your CPU (it will get faster too) I would use PPT 90W TDC 60A ,EDC 90A and CO negative -25 to -30 all cores.. Also BO (Boost Optimizer) +100 to+200)

reddit.com › r/overclocking › need suggestions on what i should set my ryzen 5600x to with stock cooler - for stability/performance

r/overclocking on Reddit: Need suggestions on what I should set my Ryzen 5600X to with stock cooler - for stability/performance

July 14, 2023 -

I noticed in BIOS the 5600X has PBO enabled by default. I heard PBO with a stock cooler is not the best idea. My CPU doesn't get that hot, but it tends to always be higher in temp than my GPU. Under load can reach 70-80C.

I want to optimize my CPU (will give all specs below), to possibly resolve some microstutter/frame hiccuping I experience in a lot of games.

Here is an image from my Ryzen Master "advanced view", so you can see what things are set to:

https://imgur.com/Qf1IMeI

Maybe I can disable PBO and change things such as PPT to optimize better, etc., since I'm on stock cooler.

SPECS:

GPU: MSI RX 6600 XT

CPU: Ryzen 5 5600X

Mobo: MSI B550 Gaming Plus

RAM: 32GB (16GBx2) G.Skill Ripjaws XMP Enabled @ 3600MHz

PSU: EVGA 600W 80 GD+

Display: ASUS TUF 165Hz 1080p Freesync Monitor

Windows 10 64-bit

Leave PBO on Set PPT(Power limit) to whatever you prefer - stock is 78W while you can go up till 120W or lower till 40W. Leave TDC and EDC at stock values - 60A and 90A respectively BO(boost optimizer ) can be set to +200 and low as -200Mhz So if you want the CPU to boost lower than the stock 4650Mhz you set it to -100Mhz and you get 4550Mhz max. Also CO (curve optimizer) - you should definitely undervolt your CPU - limit is -30 but for starters you go -20. Any of those settings will make your CPU heat less - so choose one - or implement and regulate them all for best results. GL HF 👍

reddit.com › r/overclocking › ryzen 5600 pbo limits?

r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen 5600 PBO Limits?

November 11, 2022 -

I'm curious what PBO limits others are running and what methods you've used to test them. I've been running 120 PPT 70 TDC 110 EDC for some time now but recently dropped EDC to 100 which has allowed me to increase my CO under volt. I've used Cinebench R23, CPU-Z and 3Dmark Time spy CPU as BMs to test various PBO limits but get pretty much the same results from 90-120 EDC. TDC has almost zero effect and it seems like PPT just needs to be set high enough. I'm running a lapped Wraith Prism with Noctua paste and CPU temp never exceeds 81C. TIA

My typical BM results are:

CPU-Z : 625/4950

R23 : 1530/11500

Time spy CPU : 8900

I've had better results with more aggressive CO but then get errors in Corecycler.

Mine is right now doing 4.65 at 1.29v. PPT 140, TDC 60, EDC 90. R23: 1532/11648 CPU-Z: 641/5064 Timespy: 8784 (paired with a much slower gpu that gets 7826 graphics score. I think it just sits back and sips coffee...) Core package is 101W on r23 multi. Not sure how you guys run such aggressive CO. Mines are -7, -12, -12, -12, -11, -11. And I think it did a bit better with 1 plus CO, but it's not crashing or giving me errors and the occt avx2 extreme/large held ran for 1h+1h. Temps are 67C with a esports 34 duo, paste is artic mx4. Max fan speed set at 85C, running at 75% at 70C. It's a budget build. But aside from the meh ram, I'm happy with how it has come along. Actually TDC does matter, like my all core is around 4.55 due to having TDC at 60. If I set it to 80, all cores go to 4.65 but I feel that's just missing the point, which was to have higher single boost. If there wasn't the 200mhz limit...

105ppt, 66tdc, 115 edc. +200 boost override. I have a very conservative curve of -3 on best -7 on the rest. Anything more was unstable. R23 1530 single core, 11800 multicore.

reddit.com › r/amd › set and forget 5600x pbo, curve optimizer -30, which tests for stability?

r/Amd on Reddit: Set and forget 5600X PBO, Curve Optimizer -30, which tests for stability?

January 11, 2021 -

Not trying to set any records, just want to optimize my media/gaming PC and use it for the next 5 years. Found this video from Optimum Tech at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfkrp25dpQ0 which suggests turning on PBO2 and set Curve Optimizer, All Core to -30 (Max) for 5600X.

I have a 5600X and ASUS B550F-Wifi on 1401 BIOS (should have AGESA 1.1.8.0) with DOCP/XMP turned on for my RAM which was a 'set and forget' decision. Noticed that AMD overclocking is behind a click accept on some warranty warning which got me thinking: What is an accepted way to test for stability? Cinebench for a few hours? Prime95? Blender Benchmark on CPU mode?

This is my first AMD build ever, and have not built a desktop for half a decade so I am out of date. I recall maybe a year or so ago hearing about warnings not to use Furmark (or was it AIDA64?) which could damage your CPU.

Set and forget is leaving it at stock

Try OCCT with small data set and 1 thread. It usually finds errors pretty fast.

reddit.com › r/overclocking › cooling with pbo enabled on ryzen 5600x?

r/overclocking on Reddit: Cooling with PBO enabled on Ryzen 5600x?

June 25, 2023 -

Hey all, I’m new to PC gaming and overclocking, so sorry if this is a novice question. I’m trying to get the most frames and lowest input delay possible. I have an rtx 3080 and ryzen 5600x. I have XMP enabled. I’m going to enable resizable bar as well. But I’m also looking into enabling PBO but read cooling/temps can be an issue. I have a scythe fuma 2 and 5 fans. Will enabling PBO/overclocking my CPU be an issue with my current cooling system? Do I need to upgrade to liquid cooling or do anything else before enabling PBO? Thanks for any advice!

A dual tower cooler like you have is already ridiculous overkill for a 5600x, you won't have any issues enabling PBO

Fuma2 is an amazing cooler. But its an utterly inept cooler for scalability. You can put 45cmf/1mm on the cooler or 2 prfhxe with 260cfm/25mm and it wont basically budge, maybe 3 degrees at best. You wont have problems with cooling with it in no way shape or form but to summ up, you wont be able to "upgrade" it.

reddit.com › r/overclocking › ryzen 5 5600 pbo recommended values?

r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen 5 5600 PBO recommended values?

March 20, 2024 -

Hi i got a new 5600 yesterday and completly stock it boosts to 4450mhz all cores playing and in cinebench. It drains 1.18mv (monitored on hwinfo). In cinebench R20 it does 4337 points. Temps are really great. I was thinking about trying pbo, though never used that before. Can you give me any start point values? Thanks! I use IDcooling SE214-XT!

Context: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOYYHNGlLs I'd start at -15 in the curve optimizer. increment by -5 until you reach instability, then start flirting with the Auto OC feature to add a few more MHz (+50 is reasonable, but the curve optimizer should take priority before messing with these settings.) Also don't forget about EXPO.

I (5600x) just started with -30 on all cores, set a boost clock of +200Mhz and went testing for stability. Cinebench, Cpu-Z, actual gaming (was important, one game in particular was great at detecting weakness), and some CoreCycler. -30 all cores was unstable, so I went down to -25 and that is working. You might need to go lower ( which means higher like - 23 or -20, what ever is stable ). I found the default Motherboard limits for PPT, TDC and EDC to be too high for my taste. Unnecessary Power / Temps from too high values. Nothing crazy so you can leave them on Mainboard limits, I just like to be precise. Ended up using 100 PPT, 60 TDC and 100 EDC values. You need TDC at at least 60 to reach higher clocks, some might need 65 TDC. I like TDC at 60 since turning it up increases the Core Voltage. I think stock values are PPT 78 , TDC 60, EDC 90 - not sure if that is the 5600 or the x version.

reddit.com › r/overclocking › messing around with pbo limits(ryzen 5 5600)

r/overclocking on Reddit: Messing around with PBO limits(Ryzen 5 5600)

November 6, 2022 -

Just posting for anyone interested to see how dropping pbo limits affects temperature and performance. All tests were done on Cinebench r23 multicore as there was no dropoff in single core performance when testing all configs

Setup:Ryzen 5 5600

Cooler: Coolermaster hyper 212 LED

PBO:+200mhz PPT:105W,TDC:72A,EDC:85A

Curve optimizer settings: -21 on 2 cores,-26 on the rest

Results:

Configuration	Cinebench r23 Score(% decrease vs baseline)	Sustained allcore frequency	Max temps(% decrease vs baseline)
PPT:105W,TDC:72A,EDC:85A(baseline)	11239	4430mhz	80.1c
Eco mode(PPT:60W,TDC:45A.EDC:65A)	8871(-21%)	3530mhz	57c(-28.7%)
PPT:82W,TDC:59A,EDC:85A	10642(-5.3%)	4200mhz	68.2c(-15%)
PPT:85W,TDC:60A,EDC:85A	10790(-3.99%)	4245mhz	69.6c(-13.1%)
PPT:93W,TDC:65A,EDC:95A	11019(-1.9%)	4345mhz	73.3c(-8.5%)

Now i switched over the PBO limits PPT:85W,TDC:50A,EDC:85A, as only a 4% drop in performance yields me a 20w decrease in power draw and 10c decrease in temps. Any increase in PBO limits seems to only yield diminishing returns. Thoughts?

Someone suggested me to disable Global C States to be able use more aggresive CO values. For my zen3 it worked. If you haven’t disabled it, make a try and see if -30 is reachable. Nice temps considering the cooler you are using. It was (and is) one of the most used cooler for a long period of time.

Mirrors what I found on the 5600x once you reach a certain point you are definitely getting diminishing returns for higher wattage. There is a sweet spot to be found. I stopped chasing the oft touted 12,000+ in cinebench because I just didn't feel it was worth it for the extra strain on the cpu. I've settled at 95W on my 5600x for now but was running at 88W for quite a while. The bug to squeeze out a bit more performance bit me again ;) I've got hefty cooling so don't go over about 70c in cinebench even with silent fan profile set (fans do start to be a bit more audible but not running anywhere near flat out).

reddit.com › r/overclocking › ryzen 5 5600x optimal settings? best oc or pbo settings or if i should use them? particularily for tarkov

r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen 5 5600x Optimal Settings? Best OC or PBO Settings or If I should use them? Particularily for Tarkov

July 9, 2022 -

Hi, so I bought a gaming pc last year around november: Asus Rog Strix G15DK Gaming PC.

It comes with:

Ryzen 5 5600x (Stock Cooler, No OC)

Nvidia RTX 3060

16 gb Ram (Both 3200 Mhz, planning on getting another 16 gb)

I am trying to play CPU heavy games like Tarkov and Rust, and was wondering what the best settings would be for this cpu? I don't have a cooler but not opposed to buying one, I am just wondering if I can OC 3.7 to ~4.6 with a stock cooler or if I should use PBO as well?

I know how to OC graphics cards, but no clue how to OC CPUs. I'm jus lookin for advice as to what I should do about this CPU and if there's anything better I can do with it? Looking to improve single core performance as well.

Any advice would be appreciated!

The stock stealth cooler is barely adequate for stock use. You should upgrade it if you plan to overclock. PBO with manual limits +200 fmax and per core negative curve offset is the ticket. It should get you sustained 4500-4650 all core and single core boost up to 4850.

You can follow a guide like this . Manual OC is pretty much dead with Zen3. Buying a cheap aftermarket cooler like the deepcool ak400 might be worth investing in for this however.

reddit.com › r/overclocking › ryzen 5600x 4,75ghz all core with pbo

r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen 5600x 4,75ghz All Core with PBO

October 11, 2024 -

At this point i think i'm pretty much capped by the pbo override being max +200. I think it could probably reach around 5ghz with single core, are there any ways to override that limit? MOBO is msi b450m mortar max. I would prefer not to use HYDRA since i mostly run linux on this machine.

aren't you clock stretching there? check your effective clocks.

Your CPU isn't running at 4.75GHz, it's running at 4.43GHz and clock stretching. You can also see that you're scoring slightly lower than a stock 5600X.

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r/overclocking on Reddit: Question about PBO on 5600X

February 7, 2021 -

I've been trying to find the happy balance between a constant overclock and just using default settings. I like the default because the CPU reduces the clock but more importantly the voltage during low intensity work or idle. I want the overclock though because I have a case with good airflow and a Noctua U-12A. My idle temps are 30c and under full load at 4800mhz it barely cracks 70. The problem is that to achieve even a stable 4700mhz I need around 1.37v. I know that's safe for a few hours of gaming at a time, but I'm worried about a constant voltage like that or higher causing my chip to fail. I've read of people killing their chip in a year or less with voltages like that. Ideally I'd like to get this boosting to 4800mhz or higher because I have the cooling to sustain it at safe temps.

I left everything at default in BIOS and just increased the PBO by 200mhz. I thought that would just increase the headroom and allow it to clock higher, but for some reason it seems to have applied an overclock to it as well. When I reboot it runs faster at idle, generally in the low to mid 3,000's, and obviously it's running higher voltages too. I don't understand why it does that when all I did was increase the boosting headroom.

Is it possible to increase the PBO limit without it affecting the idle clocks and voltages? I've got the CPU on a MSI MPG Gaming Pro Carbon WiFi if that makes a difference.

I will recommend u try 1usmus's ctr 2.0 with hybrid oc. When under all core load it runs 1 profile and under that it runs a different profile. Here's my setup: above 75% cpu usage it runs 4.575ghz at 1.256v. between 20 and 75% it runs 4.7ghz 1.33v and under 20% it uses default boost to downclock. Gives me the best of all 3 worlds, low temps at high usage, high performance in games and downclock when idling.

I’ve got my 5600x set to 90W PPT, 100A EDC, 55A TDC with no boost set and it works great for me, but if that’s not what you’re looking for, just play around with the power settings. You may want to target 100W-110W PPT if you’re wanting the 200mhz boost too.

For perspective, with my settings, the voltage doesn’t go past 1.25v in games and a little over 1.2v in heavy work load situations.

Edit: forgot to mention my idle voltage, it sits around .95v at idle.

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r/overclocking on Reddit: 5600x PBO + CO results

October 14, 2022 -

Decided to mess around with PBO + curve optimizer to see what kind of results I can get.
If you have any suggestions on how I can improve my settings, please let me know as I am new to this. These settings are stable as I have run core cycler for 8 hours and have played games without any crashes.

Settings

Bios settings
1. PBO = +200
2. PPT = 185
3. TDC = 125
4. EDC = 170
5. Scalar = 1x
Curve optimizer
1. core 0 = -25
2. core 1 = -30
3. core 2 = 0 (unable to under volt, core cycler kept throwing errors)
4. core 3 = -15
5. core 4 = -20
6. core 5 = =20
RAM -- default XMP (have been unsuccessful in overclocking or changing timings)

Results

Cinenbench R23
1. Multi-core - 12121
2. Single core - 1597
3. max temp - 75.8

This sounds super counter intuitive but the EDC bug seems to be present on many agesa versions. PPT = 100 TDC = 100 EDC = 90 I used to have EDC at 125 but reducing it to 90 netted me 400 additional points in R23 with 12513.

From what I hear, you’ll want to run corecycler for 24 hours per core, so a total of 72 hours total. I don’t know if that’s required, I’ve never done it myself but some folks don’t consider it stable until it’s passed that. Your score is good, I’m pretty sure there’s not much you can do better. Anything over 12K is good for the 5600X from what I have seen. Like another commenter said recently, there seems to be 2 camps in the 5600X. Those who have a good sample and can hit 12K while stable, and those who can hit 12K but are unstable as all get out. Make sure to run it and if you encounter any crashes figure out which core it was and bump the offset a little bit.