This tells me nothing. If you don't know what you're doing, you could easily flip the wrong toggle and end up causing damage instead. Please do more research before attempting. There are plenty of guides on YouTube. I would also do this in the BIOS and not mess around with Ryzen Master at all. Ryzen Master is known to be buggy and persistent, in the worst ways possible. It's hard to recover if something goes wrong. The general idea is to lower the voltage curve. Your CPU uses more voltage under load and less on idle. There is a "curve" that determines how much voltage is fed to the CPU according how much work the CPU is doing. You can either lower this curve for all cores at once or fine tune it per core. With this method of undervolting you can't just say "voltage 1.1v" since the voltage figure can fluctuate depending on what the CPU is doing at a given time. Instead, in PBO2 you can set the voltage offset number from -30 to 30. Negative values mean less voltage/lower voltage curve and positive values mean higher/more voltage curve. To undervolt, you'd set these numbers to be negative. I personally set it to -10 for all cores to start with. Too low voltage means you run into stability issues. It's harder to detect this instability with a high load stress test like Prime95 because when the CPU is under load, more voltage is fed into it. This means it is possible the CPU might not crash under heavy load, but crashes under low loads/idle states. It's a pain in the ass to get right. Save yourself the headache and don't get too much into it. As long as you lower the voltage offset value for all cores just before you get stability issues when idle then you're good. See this thread for how to use CoreCycler to test whether you're stable at idle. https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/11bbgc1/how_do_i_test_undervolt_stability_in_idling_not/ Or you could just set it to more conservative values like -5 or -10 and forget it. The CPU boosts a bit more here and there because of the lower temps but the main thing here is it must be worth the stability and time trade off. Don't get too disappointed if -5 causes a crash. It could be that one of your cores can't do an undervolt at all. The next step would be to determine the problematic core. You can use Windows Event Viewer to see which core fails but the number assigned to each core is tricky and may not represent the correct core. With 8 cores on the 5800X you could go for trial and error. Once you know which core needs more juice than others, you can then fine tune the voltage curve core by core. But... Is it worth the tinkering time for 3-5% more performance? Is it worth the potential stability issues? Are your temps so high your CPU is throttling? Can't you simply get a bigger cooler? Remember, even if your CPU benchmarks higher by 3-5% in synthetic benchmarks, this doesn't mean it's a 1:1 translation of performance to real-world applications. Your FPS in games probably won't increase by 5%, for example. By all means try it out (be careful!) but don't expect miracles. These CPUs are already tuned to the extreme from the factory. Answer from NeVMiku on reddit.com
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r/techsupport on Reddit: Ryzen 7 5800X Undervolt
August 3, 2024 -

Are these settings alright? I am using AMD Ryzen Master, not the BIOS though.

CPU Clockspeed 3.8MHz

CPU voltage 1.1V

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This tells me nothing. If you don't know what you're doing, you could easily flip the wrong toggle and end up causing damage instead. Please do more research before attempting. There are plenty of guides on YouTube. I would also do this in the BIOS and not mess around with Ryzen Master at all. Ryzen Master is known to be buggy and persistent, in the worst ways possible. It's hard to recover if something goes wrong. The general idea is to lower the voltage curve. Your CPU uses more voltage under load and less on idle. There is a "curve" that determines how much voltage is fed to the CPU according how much work the CPU is doing. You can either lower this curve for all cores at once or fine tune it per core. With this method of undervolting you can't just say "voltage 1.1v" since the voltage figure can fluctuate depending on what the CPU is doing at a given time. Instead, in PBO2 you can set the voltage offset number from -30 to 30. Negative values mean less voltage/lower voltage curve and positive values mean higher/more voltage curve. To undervolt, you'd set these numbers to be negative. I personally set it to -10 for all cores to start with. Too low voltage means you run into stability issues. It's harder to detect this instability with a high load stress test like Prime95 because when the CPU is under load, more voltage is fed into it. This means it is possible the CPU might not crash under heavy load, but crashes under low loads/idle states. It's a pain in the ass to get right. Save yourself the headache and don't get too much into it. As long as you lower the voltage offset value for all cores just before you get stability issues when idle then you're good. See this thread for how to use CoreCycler to test whether you're stable at idle. https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/11bbgc1/how_do_i_test_undervolt_stability_in_idling_not/ Or you could just set it to more conservative values like -5 or -10 and forget it. The CPU boosts a bit more here and there because of the lower temps but the main thing here is it must be worth the stability and time trade off. Don't get too disappointed if -5 causes a crash. It could be that one of your cores can't do an undervolt at all. The next step would be to determine the problematic core. You can use Windows Event Viewer to see which core fails but the number assigned to each core is tricky and may not represent the correct core. With 8 cores on the 5800X you could go for trial and error. Once you know which core needs more juice than others, you can then fine tune the voltage curve core by core. But... Is it worth the tinkering time for 3-5% more performance? Is it worth the potential stability issues? Are your temps so high your CPU is throttling? Can't you simply get a bigger cooler? Remember, even if your CPU benchmarks higher by 3-5% in synthetic benchmarks, this doesn't mean it's a 1:1 translation of performance to real-world applications. Your FPS in games probably won't increase by 5%, for example. By all means try it out (be careful!) but don't expect miracles. These CPUs are already tuned to the extreme from the factory.
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different computer setups can handle undervolting at different levels. you need to slowly keep going lower till you lose stability. use stress testing software like prime95 for 30min to test
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r/overclocking on Reddit: Undervolting Ryzen 7 5800x
November 6, 2023 - In general i recommend to go with +150 boost, 1x scalar, optimized pbo limits and then start with -30 on all cores and use newest version of corecycler(alphaversion) that supports automatically raising undervolt value +1 on error.
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reddit.com › r/amd › 5800x - undervolt and curve optimizer?
r/Amd on Reddit: 5800x - Undervolt AND Curve Optimizer?
February 3, 2023 -

So. im trying to tune my 5800x again...

Seems like i got a potato. Boosts to ~4.8Sc and ~4.6Ac...I can input up to 2ghz on the PBO2 Boost override but after 200mhz nothing changes. Global max is still 5050, some cores touch that but the effective clocks doesn't so i guess it's just streching.The Cpu gets hot (90c) unless i drop the Vcore to about -0.025v, i get higher/same R23 scores for every step down until then (~15000-15500). I know they are supposed to work at that temp, but that seems stupid if i get the same performance for way less wattage and temp. Electricity is expensive nowdays...

Cpu seems to handle ~-30 Co on all cores, maby -28-29 on the two best, but if i drop the Vcore they give me errors way before that.

PPT/TDC/EDC Doesn't seem to matter when i'm optimizing sc, currently running corecycler and try to find the max Co offset on my vcore, i suppose i shoudl lover Vcore until all of them are between -20 and -30, since they max out on stock, meaning they could go to -40-50 if that was an option.

Is this the right way to go? I'we read 10ths of guides but it doesnt click. And Sometimes my changes work and sometimes it just glitches out, having the same options on 2 places int eh UEFI doesn't help either, dunno if i should use the settings under AI Tweaker on Advanced/Amd, Thanks Asus.

Current values on PBO is 120/75/110, but that only comes in to play when i run all core or R23, i'd like to find the core maximums before i start tuning all core.

Also, if i use LLC on Lvl2 or more i just loose performance? Perhaps 100-150 Mhz All core clocks.I have it set to Auto, and CPU and SOC Current are on 110%, i don't think thats a problem when i have PBO limits way under stock.

Specs:

  • Amd 5800x

  • Asus Strix 550-F

  • 32gb Corsair LP 3200/Cl16

  • Gtx 1080

  • Corsair VS650 (Shit PSU, a bit low voltages)

My Spreadsheet (WIP)

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1s2K-KVxXuvtZXVkt9TeCSPYyfYqWUgxZjaBiX7JNEgE/edit?usp=sharing

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reddit.com › r/amdhelp › cant reliably undervolt my 5800x. am i doing something wrong or did i lose the silicon lottery?
r/AMDHelp on Reddit: Cant reliably undervolt my 5800X. Am I doing something wrong or did I lose the silicon lottery?
March 13, 2024 -

I will TRY to keep this brief. But first:
5800X (early model bought shortly after release, stepping 0 according to CPUZ)
Noctua NH-U12S cpu cooler with two fans in push-pull configuration.
MSI MAG B550M Mortar (latest bios as of writing)
32gb DRR4-3600mhz ram

I have tried to use bog standard OC settings with the only difference being an all core -20 curve optimizer setting, but this is highly unstable. The only mostly-stable all core setting is -10.
I have tried spending HOURS setting each individual core in -5 increments followed by a OCCT burn test, in a wild goose chase to find the most optimal setting. With me just giving up.
I have then tried using the automatic curve optimizer setting in Ryzen Master which gave the most stable settings (with tweaks to the PPT, TDC and EDC by me):

I dont know what I am doing wrong or what else I can change. The hours upon hours I have spent chasing this rabbit is enough for me now. A vastly different amount of time than what all the YouTube tutorials made me believe it would.

I did see the max temp go from 90C on stock settings with PBO enabled and motherboard power limits, to around 75-77 in OCCT burn test with the settings above.

Should I be satisfied with this?

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r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen 5800x undervolt performance
May 22, 2022 -

Hey all,

I just got my hands on a 5800x (upgrade from a 3600). I was wondering if any other owners out there can lend any insight.

I've changed PBO2 to advanced and curve optimizer to negative 20 allcore and it seems pretty stable for an undervolt.

R23 scores are: multi 15522 single: 1496

It sometimes boosts to 4.8 GHz but mostly boosting to 4.72.

Using my hyper 212 black edition cooler on a gigabyte b550m aorus pro motherboard. The cooler seems to do the trick. I was worried at first but it idles mid 30s and while gaming 60ish. Cinebench stressed to 80-85.

Does this look like good typical performance for this chip at these types of settings?

Any feedback is appreciated. Cheers.

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I generated the values for each individual Core with the Ryzen Master Auto-Curve-Optimizer. For me these value were not stable when using straight from the Optimizer (I am also running +200Mhz PBO) so I adjusted each of the values to be 4 or 5 less. Now everything is running fine, I get the occasional boosts above 5 Gigaherz that you would want for gaming and thanks to lowering Power Target to 120 (120PPT 85TDC 120EDC), my temperatures also top out in the 80s when a running full AVX2(!) workloads despite running an ordinary, medium sized air tower cooler. If you get for example an Aio water cooler, you can suerly set these values a bit higher (like 130 90 130, or probably just stock) and enjoy better performance. DerBauer actually did find (albeit slight) degradation from his stress test running 5000 Series above 1.4Volts for prolonged time in an Allcore-Stress. He used just 3 CPUs as the sample size and it did make a difference, he needed a couple steps of higher wattage for the same OC. I am personally happy to know that my Core usually hits 1.35~V at max unless it might occasionally reach up for a 5Ghz in gaming for a short time, which is absolutely fine. AMD might say having this thing run pegged at 95°C out of the box is supposedly ok (which it did do for me on a be quiet dark rock!) but I am definitely feeling more peace of mind staying 10°C below that. Also saving some Watts, Electricity isn`t getting any cheaper. I`m really happy with the new PBO2, it finally seems like a genuinely allround better alternative to just setting fixed clocks and voltages. The big benefit I see here is that you will save power over the fixed OC because the CPU will adjust down more when it doesn`t need the full power and the single core will boost higher.
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Looks about right. Like the other person said, try testing with stress test that allows you to cycle cores. -20 all core may not actually be stable. Instability with zen3 after curve optimizing usually shows during low loads, such as when idle or web browsing. The cycling helps detect these types of errors while switching core to core. For best performance, per core optimization is best. Also, if you lower temps, your cinebench score will improve, if that matters to you. I found setting my pbo to 130ppt, 90 tdc and 130edc lowered temps without lowering performance when I was initially using a smaller air cooler.
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reddit.com › r/buildapc › how do i undervolt my ryzen 7 5800x ?
r/buildapc on Reddit: How do I undervolt my Ryzen 7 5800X ?
January 5, 2023 -

I am a complete noob and I wish to undervolt my Ryzen 7 5800X as the temps are really high and hit 80c while gaming. I searched online and the guides are really confusing as I came across two different methods.

Some are using PBO2 and curve optimiser while others are reducing the power limits with values like PPT, TDC and EDC.

Which one of these methods is undervolting and which one do I use?

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reddit.com › r/overclocking › ryzen 5800x undervolting help needed
r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen 5800x Undervolting help needed
November 6, 2022 -

Running an 5800x on air in an ITX case here, I know its hot af but I got the cpu for a really good price. I have been trying different per core negative offset but it always gives me some random whea uncorrectable error bsod when I thought it was stable, disabled the CO for now. How do you figure the offset for each core? Last I got like -15 on each core and +5 on the 2 good cores. Also I limited the power, its running at 4.2ghz in cinebench under 80C all cool and good but in actual use it boosts to 4.8ghz sometimes and hot af, what do I do?

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reddit.com › r/buildapc › first undervolt, is this okay? (5800x)
r/buildapc on Reddit: First undervolt, is this okay? (5800x)
February 9, 2023 -

Hi everyone hope you’re having a good day, I recently did a manual undervolt on my 5800x to have lower temps. I did 1.2V at 4.4GHz so it constantly runs at that voltage. Its completely stable and I’ve had no problems. But my question is, is it safe for the 5800x to run at that voltage constantly? or will it shorten its lifespan or anything?

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r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen 5800X Undervolting/Overclocking
October 17, 2021 - I tried to undervolt my 5800x with Ryzen Master. I applied AllCore 4.6 Ghz and 1.3V.
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reddit.com › r/amdhelp › undervolt help. im gonna try to undervolt my 5800x to make it go colder, and i have been looking at youtube videos and really don’t know if this are right or not. anyone?
r/AMDHelp on Reddit: Undervolt help. Im gonna try to undervolt my 5800x to make it go colder, and I have been looking at YouTube videos and really don’t know if this are right or not. Anyone?
February 23, 2023 - Linus Tech Tips, Anthony just released a video about Undervolting CPUs. I suggest checking it out. ... Make sure to test it properly this will take a long time, its easier to get stable if you do not boost overide mhz offset and just leave that at 0 limiting PPT is what is gonna reduce temps the most but you gonna reduce performance as result so keep that in mind. ... Okay I found a fix that worked for me to prevent my 5800x from getting really hot.
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reddit.com › r/amdhelp › amd ryzen 7 5800x undervolting issues
r/AMDHelp on Reddit: Amd ryzen 7 5800x undervolting issues
November 25, 2024 -

I have an amd ryzen 5 5800x, cpu runs fine but after a while gaming it gets hot and throttles. So i started with using ryzen master to test how much to undervolt ( without undervolting while gaming it reaches 1.45 v) I undervolted there without chaning clock speed and it worked fine so i thought i should do it in bios, but every time i go into bios trying to touch just the voltage it restarts then locks the cpu at base clock speed even at full load so i tried manually forcing the clock speed then it would restart and reset everything. Keep in mind this happens even if decrease the voltage by 0.01. However if i turn on gaming mode in the bios the cpu runs at lower clock speed but it goes to 1.1v runs at 4.4ghz instead of 4.7ghz Any solutions? I want the full clock speed without running at 1.45 v

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r/pcmasterrace on Reddit: 5800x Undervolting question.
November 6, 2023 -

Hi, i came across numerous posts about undervolting ryzen chips (namely 5000 series) cause they run hot as balls so I followed and did the same.Curve optimizer set to 20 across all cores, tweaked some limits etc but my core clock went down.Now i might sound like an idiot for asking this but is that how it's supposed to be? I've seen people saying their core clocks went up (from 4.8ghz to 4.9 and stuff like that) while mine went down to 4.6So am i doing anything wrong here?I just wanted to lower the temperature down and keep the same performance because even with a "good" aio it's still pretty warm (50-60c idle, 70c on win start-up, 89ish in C23 before undervolt, post undervolt it's idling at 40-46ish, start-up is 60ish R23 never went over 70c)

To add to the clusterfuck of questions i'd like answered the PPT b4 undervolt was in the red under 100% load, iirc 94%ish(maybe even less i don't 100% remember), post undervolt 100-101%))
Board is Asus B550-F
Cpu is Ryzen 7 5800x

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reddit.com › r/pcmasterrace › undervolting ryzen 7 5800x discussion
r/pcmasterrace on Reddit: Undervolting Ryzen 7 5800x Discussion
November 30, 2022 -

Hey everyone. Just installed a 5800x and began exploring the undervolt settings and running cinebench r23. Keep in mind, I am not running 5 minute tests, so I'm aware these numbers are not good enough to consider anything stable, I'm just playing around for now, these are for a single run of rendering.

My highest score so far was 15,430. I believe that was with negative 10 curve. Temps were around 82°, a couple of cores boosted to over 5k mhz. I have a single fan liquid cooler and I don't think it's going to be good enough. I couldn't get temps low enough while keeping a stable undervolt.

Just looking for a general discussion along with some tips or advice. Thanks everyone.

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r/overclocking on Reddit: Ryzen 7 5800x undervolt?
August 7, 2022 -

Hi this is the first time that I ever tried oc or undervolting and I do not know anything about it but I really don't like the temps that I get. To be real I only have an Noctua NH-12 Redux and I live in Spain but for now that is all I can do and I would love if somebody helps me with undervolting the cpu or with a link to a guide or video because I am really in the dark about this and never messed with it.I put an image with a cinebench r23 run and as you can see it got a little hot which is normal considering my cooler but what I do not like is that while I play valorant and the CPU only has like 30% utilisation the temps are like 80+.Thank you and sorry if I broke a rule it is my first post ever.

Edit: I do not know why the image was not uploaded sry my first post the multicore score was 13841 and the single core was 1511.The temperature during the multi core test 90.1 but the single core test the temp was only 80 so I do not know what is going on.

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Ryzen 7 5800x Undervolting : r/overclocking
March 7, 2024 - The best thing to do is to start at -10 all core, and use OCCT and Prime95 to test the limit of each core. He could very well get a really great 5800X that can go -30 all core, like Ryzen Master often recommends, but he will probably need to tweak some cores above -30.