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New AMD user here. Upgraded from a 9900k to a 7800x3D. I have experience overclocking the Intel platforms from various generations. Very new to AMD stuff.
Heard PBO Curve editor could potentially squeeze out some extra performance by undervolting... but will I really notice a real world difference if I don't have problems with temps?
Don't really want to have a run in with messing with system stability for a 1-2% gain in overall performance/fps in games.
I use a Noctua NH-D15 and on Cinebench stress tests I hit max 70C on all cores at stock. No PBO set. Only thing set is EXPO for RAM
My goal is to keep my system completely stock, no overclocking and within AMD spec. Like my RAM speed for example I want to keep it at 5200mt/s as that is what AMD officially supports as the max for this chip.
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But what I'm confused about is what exactly is considered "not an overclock" by AMD with the 7800x3D. Do I just keep the standard "Core Performance Boost" enabled and let the single core clock boost to 5Ghz as that is what is in the specs for the chip, or should I still look at enabling PBO? It's not clear to me if enabling PBO is actually considered an "overclock" and I've tried Googling this (and searching here) without a clear answer. Using Curve Optimizer does seem to be out of the question as I'm looking for a completely stable system and I don't like the idea of possible instabilities with undervolting (which is overclocking or maybe it isn't with this chip?).
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Just looking for clarity on this. My understanding, which could be wrong, is that PBO is lifting some limits to increase the voltage to get a higher clock speed as long as the power and thermal overhead are available to it. On paper it does read like an "overclock", but considering the CPU at stock dynamically changes frequency under load I am not sure either. So if this isn't considered an "overclock" then I would enable it if there's room for performance gain but otherwise all I really care about is stability and not overclocking.
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GPU: Asus RTX4090
CPU: 7800x3D
Motherboard: Asrock B650M-HDV/M.2
BIOS Version: 3.01
RAM: Crucial 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR5-5200 UDIMM - JEDEC timings
PSU: Corsair AX1600i
Case: Fractal Torrent
Operating System & Version: Windows 11 23H2
GPU Drivers: GEFORCE GAME READY DRIVER - WHQL Driver Version: 560.70
Chipset Drivers:AMD REV 6.07.22.037
Background Applications: N/A
Description of Original Problem: Trying to figure out if PBO is considered an overclock by AMD.
Troubleshooting: I've done googling on this but haven't reached a clear answer that I'm sure about.
I just built a new pc the other day, it has a 7800x3d on gigabyte b650 elite ax. I was trying to set a negative pbo on it and basically I have some questions. So basically in the advanced settings of gigabyte bios there is a spot to turn on and configure pbo. In here you can set multiple different settings including what sets the temp limits, thermal trottle limit and curve. In here I have my curve set to a negative 20. However in the normal tweaker menu, there is a single pbo option that has a ton of choice. It goes by 70 - 80 - 90 celsius options with levels 1 to 5 for each temperature max. Do i need to enable this alongside pbo in my advanced settings or is this tweaker setting like a basic version? thanks
Computer Type: Desktop
GPU: nitro+ 7800xt
CPU: ryzen 7800x3d
Motherboard: gigabyte b650 elite ax
BIOS Version: cant remember, newest version for my motherboard
RAM: 32gb t-force ddr5 6000
PSU: season focus gx 750 gold
Case: lancool 216
on windows 11
Im pretty sure its just a basic version but ive also struggled to confirm this. Im curious to know if anyone can confirm either way
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First time PC builder here, and I was playing around with PBO and CO but I'm not exactly sure if I might have missed a setting or two in BIOS.
PBO was set to enhancement with thermal limit increased to 90C.
CO offset to -35
RAM set to EXPO II @ 6000mhz CL30.
I have encountered zero thermal throttling issues on both prime95 and cinebench. Temperatures averaging around 62C and 78C respectively.
CPU sits at 4.5 ghz for prime95 and stable 4.9 ghz on cinebench. With no stability issue encountered. Final score 17971 but I'm not sure if that's average or not.
Are there any settings that I have missed or should I attempt a lower CO offset since everything is going suspiciously well in my opinion.
Hardware
CPU: 7800X3D
Motherboard: ASUS ROG Crossfire X670E Hero with updated BIOS
RAM: 2x Corsair EXPO sticks