1 week base pay for every 6 months of tenure. 1 week base pay x 8 plus insurance transition pay and vacation cash out Answer from ReporterBudget3141 on reddit.com
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Reddit
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r/amazonemployees on Reddit: Another pip story
July 24, 2025 -

I was placed on Focus during the OLR cycle. I didn’t agree with the reasoning behind it, but I chose to follow the plan laid out for me in hopes of exiting Focus. I stayed late at the office, delivered everything according to the plan without delays, and even completed some tasks ahead of schedule. I worked with multiple teams and stakeholders, shipped meaningful features, and genuinely felt proud of what I accomplished. Still, I wasn’t taken off Focus—instead, it got extended. During the extension period, I hit the goals I was given again. But at the end of the extension, I was told I’d be moved to Pivot. From my perspective, this transition to Pivot felt largely unjustified. I realized I was being penalized for very minor issues—things that felt more like excuses than real concerns. In hindsight, I’ve come to believe that my manager was never on my side. It seems like I was simply part of some performance quota they needed to fulfill. It wasn’t a fair fight, and I now see that there was likely no outcome where I could have succeeded. I wasn’t being evaluated for growth—I was just helping someone meet a metric.

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The clever ones use this period as paid interview prep. I applaud you genuine effort. I would have simply coasted collected pip severance and a nice fact fat signing bonus. Use the system to your advantage. There was a blind thread about how you navigate this atrocity of forced quota by making them pay you more to prepare for a better hike. Consider it as karmic payment in the form of money for the atrocity they committed. This is not entitlement. Entitlement is asking money without doing anything. You did your part. Thier system failed you so you deserve to be compensated for this.
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There is a target URA quota for each org. So yes, you are being used to hit a required metric for your org, and yes, it is very likely that there is nothing you could have done to succeed (on a performance basis) once your name was assigned to the "least effective" bucket in the OLR cycle. It sucks, but it's the devil's deal of Amazon - great comp often coupled with cool projects and good scope, but tethered to a draconian performance management system that requires yearly sacrifices to appease the core company principle that employees are best motivated by fear. My advice - take any lessons away from this that you can, it's always possible to perform better or be more politically savvy in a job. But don't try to make sense of your specific situation or beat yourself up about minor mistakes or things that were undoubtedly out of your control. You made a genuine effort to address the (likely inflated) performance concerns, and you'll be pleasantly surprised at how much greener the grass is after you land somewhere else.
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Blind
teamblind.com › layoffs › pip in amazon
PIP in Amazon | Layoffs - Blind
February 1, 2025 - If your manager plans to PIP you on December 1, taking FMLA on November 1, you lose 1 month of full salary, so, simply wait for Dec 1 unless you really can't stand Amazon no more, or unless you already have a 2x offer from another company. TIMING 2: Pivot: after you get the PDF with the Pivot Entry, you have a few days to decide whether you want to take severance or improve.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/amazonemployees › pivot severance calculation
r/amazonemployees on Reddit: Pivot Severance Calculation
February 18, 2024 -

Is there anyone here who recently went through the pivot/PIP process and was offered the payout?

Can you drop in your base salary, tenure, and the amount they offered you?

Trying to calculate how much I’ll get when the inevitable happens :)


UPDATE - Already in the comments but bringing up here. Thank you u/MrHaVoC805!

Payout = 10 weeks of base pay + (basepay * 1%) * (tenure in months /12)

My example
Pivot Payment - Pre-Tax: $24,495.63
Base Annual: $88,600
Tenure: 8.42 years (101 months)

$88,600/52 = $1,703.85
$1,703.85 * 10 = $17,038.46
$88,600 x 0.01 = $886

$24,495.63 = $17,038.46 + ($886 x (101/12))

After taxes, I ended up with closer to $17.5k (absolute robbery) but that of course depends on your own tax deductions.

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/technology › official amazon hr document reveals a spike in employees put on pips during a time of record layoffs
r/technology on Reddit: Official Amazon HR document reveals a spike in employees put on PIPs during a time of record layoffs
March 21, 2024 - That was my experience with an AWS PIP. “Oh hey, surprise, we think you’re underperforming. Go climb this mountain to prove us wrong.” No thanks, I’ll take the severance and go. ... Were you fired? So many Amazon horror stories on Blind.
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Teamrora
teamrora.com › post › amazon-performance-improvement-plan
Amazon's PIP - Lessons from 75+ clients
If you read the posts on Blind, you’ll often hear that Amazon managers are forced to put 12% of their team on Focus and 6% on PIP each year regardless of how well everyone is performing.
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Reddit
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r/amazonemployees on Reddit: PIP documents from Amazon
January 21, 2024 - I worked in Amazon HR and was 'disgusted at what I was seeing' with performance improvement plans. Then I got put on a PIP and knew I had to quit. ... Hey there! What’s a decent layoff package for a managing employee that has been at Amazon for 9 years?
Find elsewhere
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Reddit
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r/amazonemployees on Reddit: PIP SDE I, advice?
February 2, 2025 -

just got notified yesterday that ive been put on pip. i started amazon late 2023 as a new grad with a broken team that was brand new, 4 engineers in total (however 2 were m.i.a. and on leave, and the other was just way too busy) both my manager and skip manager quit within the first few months, reasons including my skip skip manager, which eventually became my new manager. since the team was new, there wasnt much built and strong lack of documentation. the new manager was pretty absent for a couple months, and all of a sudden started really investing time into the team. during this time i got assigned a project that was proposed to be small, but ended up taking me 6 months. i got put on pip because i missed the deadline (but with good reason), and lack of communication/updates (despite me becoming more communicative these past couple of weeks because he raised concern, manager even brought up not sending things when... i literally did). the pip expectations are quite hefty -- i do think i can do them, but at what cost? ive been working 9 am - 12 am almost everyday the past month, including weekends occasionally to finish my project (with no support from my team, despite requesting). ive experienced so much mental stress and pain, including health issues from the pressure recently. i admit i had a slow start, but i genuinely believe i did the best i could with the circumstances i was given.

i want to take the severance, but is it a good idea? especially with this job market? would i even be able to apply for sde 2 roles or do i just resort to sde 1. even if i do take pip, will i be considered for promotion ever?

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/cscareerquestions › are the rumors of pip as a punishment and 5% true?
r/cscareerquestions on Reddit: Are the rumors of PIP as a punishment and 5% true?
April 17, 2022 -

I recently got an offer for AMZN. Haven't started to discuss compensation yet, but the job sounds like a dream come true.

The manager says she has changed the team's work/life balance to that of a healthy 40hr/week max and any extra work over that is returned to you as unofficial PTO. Fully remote. Quarterly meetups where employees are flown in to discuss quarterly plans. Whole nine yards.

I was discussing the company and offer with a few friends of mine who brought up that the company does a few things that are red flags to me, but I'd like confirmation that the statements are true.

Do they really let go of their bottom 5% each quarter? Do they really use Performance Improvement Plans (PIPs) to punish people for things as petty as trying to switch teams? Is it really that toxic of a place?

If the above is true, should I just use this as a means to increase my pay at my current employer? If so, how exactly would I go about that? I've never been in a situation like this where I have an offer at the same time as a place I'm already happy with.

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The Financial Express
financialexpress.com › business news › world news
'How do I get them to PIP me?,' Amazon employee wants his manager to put him under PIP for this bizarre reason - US News | The Financial Express
July 15, 2025 - But in a recent Reddit post, an Amazon employee queries how he can join it. “Was on focus for 30 days, left for FMLA for nearly 14.5 months, and now back,” the post states. “It appears that my new manager won’t PIP me. How can I make them PIP me?.” · Even more intriguing is his motivation for wanting to get PIPed: “I want to leave with severance.” I may give up since I can’t stand it any longer.
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Blind
teamblind.com › post › Received-Amazon-PIP-iR5AJJSz
Received Amazon PIP | Layoffs - Blind
Yesterday I received the pip document. Feeling very down. I gave everything during focus still couldn't get out of the focus. Couldn't tell my wife yet and don't how to do that ! I went through several post about pip and still asking , should I leave...
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Reddit
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r/cscareerquestions on Reddit: PIP or Severance Pay
January 31, 2022 -

I was recently told that I was put on a 60 days PIP however was given a choice for a 7.8k severance with additional 2 month pay on top of my unused vacation days.

My manager said that if I take the pip, I will not be qualified for this particular severance package if I fail. She said there might still be another severance pay if I fail PIP, but it wont be as big and isn't 100% sure. She said, PIP is not the end and I could pass it if I do well which will allow me to stay. What should I choose?

Will I still be eligible for unemployment benefits?

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Blind
teamblind.com › post › Amazon-PIP-severance-amount-i33b7W1Q
Amazon PIP severance amount? | Tech Industry - Blind
I've tried to find an answer to this question and I'm sure it has been answered, but I can't find specific info - so apologies if this is a duplicate. I have about 6yrs, 3 months of tenure at Amazon and I'm an SDE1 (L4). I transferred into the SDE j...
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JustAnswer
justanswer.com › ca-employment-law › ld86f-just-received-notice-employer-amazon.html
Amazon PIP and Pivot Severance Package Q&A | Expert Advice
A Pivot Plan typically offers employees a choice between accepting severance or meeting performance goals within a set period. Severance amounts vary based on acceptance or failure to meet deliverables, with possible appeal options affecting payout. Employees should carefully review plan terms, document communications, and consider timelines for deliverables and appeals.
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Grapevine
grapevine.in › home › software engineers › how realistic is it to survive a pip at amazon india?
How realistic is it to survive a PIP at Amazon India? - Grapevine
November 9, 2023 - The universal rule says that if you are in Amazon’s pip, your time has come. People usually starts searching outside. Blind will give you an better idea.
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Quora
quora.com › Amazon-is-trying-to-manage-my-client-out-with-a-severance-package-due-to-his-vision-impairment-What-is-your-advice
Amazon is trying to manage my client out with a severance package due to his vision impairment. What is your advice? - Quora
Answer (1 of 2): Well, is his vision impairment negatively impacting his performing his work duties? If he cannot perform his job at an acceptable level due to this, then that really isnt fair to his employer and his coworkers as well. So maybe the severance package you mentioned, might be a fair...
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/amazonemployees › how long after you accept the pip severance offer did you get the severance payout?
r/amazonemployees on Reddit: How long after you accept the PIP Severance offer did you get the severance payout?
August 16, 2024 -

I signed the severance offer 2.5 weeks ago. My termination date was 1.5 weeks ago. When can I expect to get the severance payout?

Also where can I access the PIP severance offer document that I signed. I do not see it in the alum.docs.amazon.com page.