Are the details of the renumeration of how many months that the amazon is liable to pay to employee as a part of severance, not mentioned in the terms of employment? or is not informed at all beforehand?

4 year tenure. $160K base salary. I know the calculation for PIP severance. Wondering what the severance would be for layoff

I was placed on Focus during the OLR cycle. I didn’t agree with the reasoning behind it, but I chose to follow the plan laid out for me in hopes of exiting Focus. I stayed late at the office, delivered everything according to the plan without delays, and even completed some tasks ahead of schedule. I worked with multiple teams and stakeholders, shipped meaningful features, and genuinely felt proud of what I accomplished. Still, I wasn’t taken off Focus—instead, it got extended. During the extension period, I hit the goals I was given again. But at the end of the extension, I was told I’d be moved to Pivot. From my perspective, this transition to Pivot felt largely unjustified. I realized I was being penalized for very minor issues—things that felt more like excuses than real concerns. In hindsight, I’ve come to believe that my manager was never on my side. It seems like I was simply part of some performance quota they needed to fulfill. It wasn’t a fair fight, and I now see that there was likely no outcome where I could have succeeded. I wasn’t being evaluated for growth—I was just helping someone meet a metric.

Is there anyone here who recently went through the pivot/PIP process and was offered the payout?

Can you drop in your base salary, tenure, and the amount they offered you?

Trying to calculate how much I’ll get when the inevitable happens :)

UPDATE - Already in the comments but bringing up here. Thank you u/MrHaVoC805!

Payout = 10 weeks of base pay + (basepay * 1%) * (tenure in months /12)

My example
Pivot Payment - Pre-Tax: $24,495.63
Base Annual: $88,600
Tenure: 8.42 years (101 months)

$88,600/52 = $1,703.85
$1,703.85 * 10 = $17,038.46
$88,600 x 0.01 = $886

$24,495.63 = $17,038.46 + ($886 x (101/12))

After taxes, I ended up with closer to $17.5k (absolute robbery) but that of course depends on your own tax deductions.

just got notified yesterday that ive been put on pip. i started amazon late 2023 as a new grad with a broken team that was brand new, 4 engineers in total (however 2 were m.i.a. and on leave, and the other was just way too busy) both my manager and skip manager quit within the first few months, reasons including my skip skip manager, which eventually became my new manager. since the team was new, there wasnt much built and strong lack of documentation. the new manager was pretty absent for a couple months, and all of a sudden started really investing time into the team. during this time i got assigned a project that was proposed to be small, but ended up taking me 6 months. i got put on pip because i missed the deadline (but with good reason), and lack of communication/updates (despite me becoming more communicative these past couple of weeks because he raised concern, manager even brought up not sending things when... i literally did). the pip expectations are quite hefty -- i do think i can do them, but at what cost? ive been working 9 am - 12 am almost everyday the past month, including weekends occasionally to finish my project (with no support from my team, despite requesting). ive experienced so much mental stress and pain, including health issues from the pressure recently. i admit i had a slow start, but i genuinely believe i did the best i could with the circumstances i was given.

i want to take the severance, but is it a good idea? especially with this job market? would i even be able to apply for sde 2 roles or do i just resort to sde 1. even if i do take pip, will i be considered for promotion ever?

Does anyone in here have experience getting put on PiP, Fired or getting severance as an L4 A.M? Was it due to a specific situation or something over time? What department were you in? Did you see it coming or were you blindsided?

So yeah, after having been with the company for some time, I got the short end of the stick. I kind of felt that it would happen sooner or later with all the other recent layoffs. Anyways, I'm looking at what is required of me, and honestly, it's a lot of stuff in a short amount of time where I'm already engaged in some heavy work. Pretty much seems they want me out. After some emotional outbursts and some crying sessions, I had a talk with my siblings. They initially said to try and tough it out, but as time went on, they changed their opinion, that I should just take the money and go. At least I felt better after talking with them.

Even with 5 business days to think about it, I could have signed it today to leave now, but I got stocks vesting in a few days, so I definitely want to wait until they vest before the signing. I had looked up a few things regarding my other benefits and such, and while I get paid for all the unused vacation time I have, I don't for PTO, Sick, etc. I do feel like just using PTO this week until my stocks vest, then signing to get the severance and heading out, but I also don't want to feel like a jerk to my teammates because we're currently in some major projects. Still, I'm already on my way out by Amazon's placement of me on PIP. If I use my PTO now, I technically get paid for it and won't get additional stress, but then I sort of end up screwing people over that did nothing to me.

If I were to use my PTO like this, could they make a case where they could cancel those stocks soon to be vested? And is there anything else I should look into before signing?

What happens if you don’t sign? I understand if you sign you’re not allowed to work at Amazon for five years but what happens if you don’t sign and just walk out?

I signed the severance offer 2.5 weeks ago. My termination date was 1.5 weeks ago. When can I expect to get the severance payout?

Also where can I access the PIP severance offer document that I signed. I do not see it in the alum.docs.amazon.com page.

I was just pip’ed as an SDE2 L5. Decided to go the termination route and just take the severance. Im wondering what would be the best way to communicate this to potential employers as i start my job search. Im pretty sure they can reach out to Amazon and inquire on the nature of my separation.

I was just handed a PIP after completing a large 8 month long project. I manage a team of 4 and the company laid of 2 team members without giving me any say in the matter 6 weeks ago. My PIP states among other things that I need to rebuild the moral of the team. I need to do a better job anticipating the metrics needed by managers amongst other unusual and highly subjective claims. I was told that I had 24 hours to sign or take 2 months severance. I was also told that the company thinks the PIP is the better offer. 90 percent I will take severance and walk. Brutal environment. Any ideas?

I got put on focus 1 month ago. The task involved customer facing change and expectation was to take it to prod. Having almost delivered the task, I was expecting good remark from my manager but was surprised to hear their opinion (they aren’t happy with my delivery). My 6weeks of focus will be done soon and afaik, I’ll be offered with either pip or severance. How do I go about telling my manager that I want severance instead?

How much severance do people get btw?