I was just at Micro Center and tried all of the display keyboards. I actually did NOT want it to be clicky, wanted it to be as quiet as possible and feel the best. Got the Huntsman V2 with Linear Optical Red Switches and it’s the best keyboard I’ve ever had. I love typing on it. Answer from theraginasian on reddit.com
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r/MechanicalKeyboards on Reddit: Mechanical vs Optical Switches
October 17, 2022 -

I am quite new into mechanical keyboards. How to choose between them? Please advice, thank you.

Also, low profile vs normal mechanical keyboard, which to choose?

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Mechanical and normal is the default. Unless you have a specific reason to choose it, you're limiting yourself to a much smaller pool of possibilities and in general are considered worse, which is why they're not the default. For mechanical vs optical: Mechanical was the default and still is because nothing else offers a good enough trade off to switch. Optical does offer some benefits, but wasn't enough for the entire market to swap. As far as I know, the most common selling points are: 1. They last longer because they use light instead of electrical contacts (While it might be technically true, in most cases people aren't replacing keyboards or switches because a switch dies from regular use. You're probably replacing it for other reasons, so in most cases switch lifespan shouldn't affect your decision IMO. If you're able to swap switches anyway whether because you can solder or it's hotswap, it's not really a big deal to replace dead switches. Even if you're not going to fix dead switches, if you used your keyboard down to actually wear out a switch, you're probably more than happy with how long it lasted anyway) 2. They actuate faster (Sometimes, but not always as this just depends on the actuation distance. Some mechanical switches, often called speed switches, offer shorter actuation points, but it isn't always desired since it can also increase the frequency of fat finger mistakes) 3. They have less latency (I don't know too much, but apparently using optical switches can offer lower latency than mechanical switches because they have to work around something called debounce. So while it technically can reduce latency, I haven't seen anything regarding the difference in latency and whether it's an amount that someone would or could even notice in the context of everything else that adds latency.) As for low profile, I don't know if you mean low profile cases or low profile switches. Low profile cases is almost purely an aesthetic choice, one that most people don't like. Me personally I used to use low profile cases exclusively because I used my palm to press left ctrl. I've since swapped my left ctrl to where caps lock normally is and have moved away from low profile cases. They're super limited in choice, so unless you have a specific desire, it's generally not recommended. Unless you REALLY want to see your switches from the side or something (even then, just get something with a clear case). If you're talking low profile switches, I don't have personal experience in these. As far as I know, most low profile switches require low profile keycaps as well, though I believe I have seen cherry compatible low profile switches. You'd only really look for low profile switch keyboards if you really wanted it for it's thinness. Nobody picks and uses low profile switches for any other reason. (Basically they offer nothing other than its lack of thickness, but you are giving up a lot such as a lot of options, lower travel time, etc.)
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All I’ll say is, I was global elite in csgo when I had a £30 ordinary msi keyboard, than a razer huntsman elite with optical switches. You’re all deluded and take this subject way too far.
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r/razer on Reddit: Optical Switches: [Red] Linear VS [Purple] Clicky
June 18, 2020 -

Hey guys! I got a huntsman with (red) linear optical switches. I really love the keyboard but the switches are very light and it's so easy to actuate them that I constantly do typos.

I am thinking of returning it and getting the one with purple clicky switches as they take bit more force to actuate and have a longer actuation distance, but I've read a lot of reviews of people saying that they're extremely loud.

Is that true? Are they really that loud and if so how do you put up with it?

Please respond to me if you have a keyboard with purple switches as it would be of great help making this decision :)

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Hardware Canucks
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Razer Keyboard Switches - How to Pick the RIGHT One
February 10, 2021 - The Razer Huntsman fits into this optical category with two variations, Clicky or Linear, and this falls into Razer’s premium switch and premium performance category, which is slightly more expensive. Nevertheless, the Huntsman TE TKL model is incredibly well-priced, and especially the 60% model with the incredible Gen2 switches. And that leads us to the analog direction with the Tartarus Pro, which is the only keypad on the market right now to feature analog controls.
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What is the difference between Razer Opto-Mechanical™ vs. Razer Linear Optical Switches?
The Razer Linear Optical switches are light and quiet, have a 40-gram actuation force and 1.0 mm actuation point while the Razer Opto-mechanical switch is light and clicky, has a 45-gram actuation force and 1.5 mm actuation point.
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Razer Huntsman Elite vs Huntsman V2 Analog: Which Keyboard Is Better? - RTINGS.com
January 20, 2020 - The difference between the Analog Optical and the linear optical switch is that the Analog Optical has an adjustable pre-travel distance and lets you use the keyboard like an analog joystick.
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r/MechanicalKeyboards on Reddit: Are optical switches worth it given the choice?
April 10, 2021 -

I’m looking to replace my Anne Pro 2. It has Gateron Blue and my girlfriend told me to get an alternative 😁

My current top candidate seems to be the Keychron K6. It has Bluetooth and I have the choice to re-evaluate my switch choices, I guess it’s getting either brown or red then. I also realised I could use optical switches. I don’t game so I don’t need the few ms less latency. Are there any other advantages in that case besides having twice the lifetime per button? I read that LK Optical Switches are less common and so on and I’m worried a bit that I might end up with some exotic keyboard and would soon want to switch again.

If someone has the keyboard, any reason to wait for the K12 besides not having arrow keys there?

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I'll be the voice of the unpopular opinion here and say they are worth it, if you don't need to try out other switches. I knew exactly what I wanted in a switch; the deepest thock I could get, and the smoothest actuation. Optical switches, when done right (Razer, Steelseries and the Epomaker folks), are unbelievably smooth. You'd actually have to try them to understand just how much of a difference there is. Imagine pressing as linear switch and not feeling even a single grain of grit you might feel on a contact-based. I mean like freakishly smooth, like "how the f- is this possible" smooth. The first optical board I got was the Razer Huntsman Elite TE--obviously being on this sub the "gamer box" brands are pretty much anathema, but my mind was literally blown at how effortless and smooth they were. They were certainly too light, being "red"-ish weighting, but I was sold on opticals right then and there. Now, my main board is the SK68S with LK Blacks. I shit you not, this board, after lubing with 205, clip/bandaid modding and foaming the case, is by far my best sounding board. And I have a board with lubed Milky Yellows in it. The thock is deep, and the keys are smooth. Swapped out the shit caps for a Mistel WoB set from amazon, and I have a straight up endgame sounding board with the smoothest switches my fingers have ever touched. I couldn't ask for more than that--if I could put this sound and feel in every board I own, I would.
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If you never plan on upgrading and have no interest in anything but basic switches, opticals are fine. Otherwise hard pass.
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r/razer on Reddit: Huntsman mini - Linear vs. Analog
May 14, 2023 -

I'm interested in buying this keyboard after seeing good reviews on YouTube. But I'm torn between these 2 switches. I've heard that the linear switches feel better and are faster, but I've also heard that Analog lineup recieved an update that now enables(kind of) rapid trigger. So, which one is better?

I'm also concerned about the longevity of the keyboard. I'm not the type of person to switch keyboards often or have multiple of them on hand. I want something that lasts a long time, and Razer is notorious(from my experience)for their low quality products. For anyone who's been using this for multiple years, how's it holding up?

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MakeUseOf
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Optical vs. Mechanical Switches: What’s Best for Gaming?
July 20, 2023 - Linear keys are quieter, require less force, and provide no tactile feedback when pressed. Tactile keys are louder and produce a bump in the middle of the keystroke, while clicky keys give a larger bump and a loud "click" in the middle of the ...
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XDA Developers
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How analog optical switches differ from mechanical switches
February 5, 2024 - Optical switches, thus, offer a ... gamers and heavy keyboard users alike. Optical analog switches offer a unique feature of adjustable actuation points, absent in mechanical switches....
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r/MechanicalKeyboards on Reddit: Clicky vs Linear switches (for gaming)
June 7, 2020 -

Now, I am quite new to the idea of mechanical keyboards but I know most of the basics anyways. Before anything though, I have some questions that I would like to ask. Please answer as many as you can.

  1. What makes linears better for gaming than most tactile and clicky switches?

  2. Why are tactile switches said to be good for typing, but not as great for gaming? What does the hump do?

  3. Is it possible for their to be clicky-linear, clicky-tactile, tactile-linear types of switches?

  4. What properties of clicky switches make them good/alright for gaming?

  5. What types of tactile/clicky switches are really good for gaming?

  6. What is best out of the these linears: Gateron Yellows, Kailh Speed Silver, Kailh Pro Burgundy, Gateron Blacks, Gateron Reds, Cherry MX Red, Kailh Box Reds, Kailh Reds, Tealios

  7. Would you feel more fatigue with linears, than tactile switches, because you have to press all the way down?

  8. What are some of your favourite linears, clicky and tactile switches?

  9. What is the bottoming-out force on switches and what relation does it have with the actuation/operating force?

  10. What are the best clicky switches?

  11. Would you recommend any of the clicky Kailh Box/Crystal Navy, Box/Crystal Jades, Box Whites, Speed/Box Pale Blues, Speed Golds, Speed Bronzes, Box Blue, Box green, Pro light green, Pro sage, Box/Speed/Crystal pinks for gaming?

Anyways, back to the topic. Clicky switches, I found to be good for getting that audio feedback when gaming, and it can be very satisfying. However, linear switches don't have as much audio feedback, but for some people they'd see it as a positive. I'm just confused, because I feel some clicky switches aren't that different to linear, except that they have a click bar/ click jacket. I feel that with clicky switches, you might have more control in game because you know when you are clicking and what you are clicking. Maybe, this is wrong but it's just a theory.

If you know of any clicky-linear switches then please comment down below their names. I do have a budget so if they are overly expensive I might just not buy it. :]

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1. What makes linears better for gaming than most tactile and clicky switches? Nothing, unless you're performing at the top 1% of the top 1% of players in super high intensity APM videogames. Otherwise it's entirely preference. I know a dude who games on Kailh BOX Navy switches and he dominates. I play on super tactile Box Royals and do just fine, never had an issue or desire to play on linear. 2. Why are tactile switches said to be good for typing, but not as great for gaming? What does the hump do? The hump lets you know exactly when the key actuates. If you're particularly light-handed, you can learn to not bottom out the keys and only do half-presses at the bump, theoretically leading to an increase in WPM typing speed. In practice, a lot of tactile-preference people who get deep into this hobby end up liking early large-bump tactile switches like Holy Pandas that are way easier to bottom out on rather than stop at the tactility bump. 3. Is it possible for their to be clicky-linear, clicky-tactile, tactile-linear types of switches? All clicky switches are tactile. Not all tactile switches are clicky. Tactile and clicky cannot be combined with Linear. 4. What properties of clicky switches make them good/alright for gaming? Doesn't make a difference, imo. 5. What types of tactile/clicky switches are really good for gaming? Doesn't make a difference, imo. 6. What is best out of the these linears: Gateron Yellows, Kailh Speed Silver, Kailh Pro Burgundy, Gateron Blacks, Gateron Reds, Cherry MX Red, Kailh Box Reds, Kailh Reds, Tealios Personal Preference. That being said, Speed switches are likely to be avoided. The actuation point is so early in the button press that just resting your fingers on the keys can lead to key chatter. If you use the heavy spring versions (dark yellow, burnt orange, etc) this might be alleviated, but I haven't checked. 7. Would you feel more fatigue with linears, than tactile switches, because you have to press all the way down? Not really. Spring weight has the most to do with fatigue. 8. What are some of your favourite linears, clicky and tactile switches? I'm not a fan of Linears. For tactiles, I like BOX Royals, Holy Pandas, Zealios v2, & Hako Violets. Although I'm not a fan of Clicky switches, I vastly prefer clickbar switches over the plastic jacket switches, so BOX White/Pink/PaleBlue/Jade/Navy would be the only clicky switches I'd use. 9. What is the bottoming-out force on switches and what relation does it have with the actuation/operating force? Bottoming out = how hard you have to press the key to reach the bottom. Makes a louder sound than simply actuating the key. Actuation force = how hard you have to press the key for it to register. Usually about halfway down the stem, but this can vary. 10. What are the best clicky switches? Subjective, also kind of a duplicate of Question #8. 11. Would you recommend any of the clicky Kailh Box/Crystal Navy, Box/Crystal Jades, Box Whites, Speed/Box Pale Blues, Speed Golds, Speed Bronzes, Box Blue, Box green, Pro light green, Pro sage, Box/Speed/Crystal pinks for gaming? Sure, all of them. Entirely preference. That being said, again, I'm not a fan of Speed switches. Plus, the extremely slight travel distance difference in Speed switches will not realistically affect the gameplay of 99.99% of people.
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Any switch can be used for gaming. Heavier switches can cause some pain/fatigue over long time though. The "problem" with some tactile and mainly clicky switches for gaming is often the hysteresis which can feel weird when you press keys repeatedly fast. A clicky switch is also tactile. You can't have a clicky linear. The whole linear is good for gaming, blue for typing and brown in-between is just basic marketing crap to a certain degree. Bottom out force is the force required to bottom out a switch.