I’ve had serious performance issues using APFS on a spinning platter drive. Both internal and external. Answer from nastyfingers_og on reddit.com
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reddit.com › r/macos › apfs vs mac os extended (journaled) for external hdd (2024)
r/MacOS on Reddit: APFS vs Mac OS Extended (Journaled) for External HDD (2024)
April 13, 2024 - Mac OS Extended - Journaled) on a HDD, as this filesystem is designed with HDDs in mind. APFS is designed with SSDs in mind, which will result in various performance issues on HDDs.
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r/macmini on Reddit: APFS vs Mac OS Extended
February 1, 2022 -

Hello i have a samsung T7, and i am working on mac mini m1. I used to work with the T7 with mac os extended , with stable speeds .. Recently i read a lot of reviews that in siera and later , especially for the ssds its better the new APFS. I saw that the speed in APFS in write modes are unstable a lot . Generally the speeds are slow .. Why that happened ?

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reddit.com › r/applehelp › apfs or mac os extended as format for my external hard drive?
r/applehelp on Reddit: apfs or mac os extended as format for my external hard drive?
July 20, 2024 -

Planning to reformat my external hard drive to store 5 years worth of photos. I just don’t know if apfs is better than the mac os extended (journal format)

I need your opinions 😅 Thanks!!

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r/MacOS on Reddit: macOS extended journaled or APFS?
August 8, 2020 -

Today I’m getting an external ssd to use as a startup disk for my MacBook Pro since its ssd stopped working and I can’t replace it cuz it’s soldered to the logic board. I wanted to ask about the format i should use for the external ssd. All youtube tutorials say it should be macOS extended journaled but i think it should be APFS since it’s optimized for ssds.

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reddit.com › r/macos › mac os extended or apfs for 4tb external hdds (mac only use)?
r/MacOS on Reddit: Mac OS Extended or APFS for 4TB External HDDs (Mac Only Use)?
August 7, 2025 -

Hello, sorry for the obvious/redundant question.

I need to erase/format a bunch of 4TB Western Digital external hard drives (not SSDs). I’ll only be using them on Macs, so I’ve been using Mac OS Extended (Journaled) as the default format.

However, I read that if you're using only modern Macs (macOS High Sierra or later), APFS (Apple File System) is generally preferred for better performance and features—especially on SSDs—but that it also works on HDDs.

So now I’m wondering:

  • Should I stick with Mac OS Extended (Journaled), or go with APFS?

  • Is APFS really only intended for SSDs?

  • For erasing, is it fine to leave the Security Options set to None for a faster format, since I’m not concerned with securely deleting data?

Thanks in advance!

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reddit.com › r/applehelp › apple file system apfs or mac os extended (journaled)
r/applehelp on Reddit: Apple File System APFS or Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
January 20, 2020 -

I've recently reinstalled macOS Catalina using the recovery mode on my 2017 MacBook Pro.

I have a question about my internal boot drive (the root), do I format this as APFS or Mac OS Extended (Journaled)? I've formatted my Macintosh HD as APFS but for the "APPLE SSD" I chose Mac OS Extended (Journaled).

This screen here might help show what I mean:

https://support.apple.com/library/content/dam/edam/applecare/images/en_US/macos/Catalina/macos-catalina-disk-utility-erase-internal-drive.jpg

Also looked here but doesn't specifically say about the root drive:

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT208496#which

Should I have chosen APFS?

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r/DataHoarder on Reddit: MacOS Extended vs. APFS Formatting
May 25, 2020 -

I just bought myself a new hard drive (regular old disk drive) and am wondering whether anyone has advice regarding APFS formatting. According to Apple, APFS should only ever be used on an SSD, and that the Disk Utility will not even allow one to format a spinning drive as APFS. I've tried this, and it doesn't seem to be the case.

I ran a small test and formatted my disk drive first with MacOS Extended, and then transferred a 6GB file to see how long it would take. MacOS extended took about 2 minutes to transfer the file. I then repeated the test, but this time with APFS, and found it took only 1 minute. Moreover, the big advantage of APFS is that file duplication is incredibly quick, whereas the standard MacOS Extended would take about 7-8 minutes to duplicate the same file. APFS seems to create a kind of instance of the file, and it doesn't take up more space, as it acts more like a shortcut to a directory, as opposed to a duplicated copy. Interesting stuff.

I'm wondering whether anyone has perspectives on this. The big disadvantage of APFS of course, is that older Macs will not be able to read the format whatsoever – yikes. So, any sort of cross-platform accessibility goes out the window. Worst comes to worst, sticking with MacOS Extended for a little while longer, might not be a bad idea. Thank you.

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reddit.com › r/applehelp › apfs vs mac os extended (journaled) for external hdd (2024)
r/applehelp on Reddit: APFS vs Mac OS Extended (Journaled) for External HDD (2024)
April 12, 2024 -

Hey guys, noob here. Recently bought a WD My Passport (HDD) for the sole purpose of transferring old videos that take up alot of space on my MacBook (2019 Pro). Currently running Monterey but I plan on updating to the latest OS once I have enough space. Just wanted to ask what the best way to format this hard drive is so that I don’t run into any issues in the future.

I see lots of people recommending OS Extended for HDD and APFS for SSD but some of these posts have very different circumstances such as using an external drive to fully run their Mac. Kinda getting confused now since I’m just treating my hard drive as a big ass flash drive lmao. I just really want to be able to use this hard drive in the long term though countless software updates while also being compatible with previous and newer MacBook models.

Any help would be appreciated. I would also welcome alternative recommendations other than the two being compared. Thank you!

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reddit.com › r/datahoarder › is it better to use apfs or mac os-extended for an external hard drive being used on a new macbook pro?
r/DataHoarder on Reddit: Is it better to use APFS or Mac OS-Extended for an external hard drive being used on a new MacBook Pro?
March 13, 2021 - If it's a spinner, definitely Mac OS Extended (i.e. HFS+). It may be old, but it works much better with non-SSD's. Even with an SSD I'd probably stick with Mac OS Extended for the much wider compatibility. ... No, I think you forgot. I'm also not sure your original assertion (macOS journaled ...
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reddit.com › r/macos › apfs or os extended (journaled)
r/MacOS on Reddit: APFS or OS Extended (Journaled)
July 5, 2021 -

Need a little help.

Decided to install Mojave on my old mid-2010 MacBook, 15inches, using dosdude’s patch. But I can’t decide whether to format the installation drive as APFS or macOS Extended (journaled).

I have 250 GB SSD installed and 8GB of ram.

What would you advise?

Thanks!

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reddit.com › r/macos › exfat vs apfs
r/MacOS on Reddit: ExFAT vs APFS
April 28, 2025 -

Hello,

I’ve just bought an external SSD (Sandisk Extreme 1TB) for my M1 base Macbook Air and after some research I’m still confused about what format I should use.

I want to keep my projects (Game Development, Unity) I’m working on on the SSD, since the 256GB base MacBook storage is a limitation for my case.

And even though it’s rare, I want to use it to store some photos etc. from my Windows computer.

I know the differences of ExFAT and APFS, but will I see a significant decrease in speed if I use ExFAT? Since I need to use it on Windows as well.

Thanks in advance!

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reddit.com › r/macos › should i format my external drive apfs or macos extended?
r/MacOS on Reddit: Should I format my external drive APFS or MacOS Extended?
July 29, 2020 -

Hi,

My laptop is MacBook Pro 16-inch,2019. The system is Catalina 10.15.4. And I am using Samsung T7 use store my music stuff.

However it was incredibly slow for me to load anything, I looked up and people are saying its because I have to format my T7 to MacOS Extended (Samsung T7 was originally ExFAT).

After I formatted my T7 to MacOS Extended, I found out the default system on my mac is APFS, so I wonder should I convert it to APFS? I am worried my external drive will still be slow since my external SSD and laptop internal disk are different...

Thank you!

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reddit.com › r/applehelp › macos extended journaled or apfs?
r/applehelp on Reddit: macOS extended journaled or APFS?
August 8, 2020 -

Today I’m getting an external ssd to use as a startup disk for my MacBook Pro since its ssd stopped working and I can’t replace it cuz it’s soldered to the logic board. I wanted to ask about the format i should use for the external ssd. All youtube tutorials say it should be macOS extended journaled but i think it should be APFS since it’s optimized for ssds.