There are ryokans with semi-western rooms: tatami mat area and western style beds. Maybe that would suffice? Generally speaking futons on tatami are a bit harder than a bed. Answer from Username928351 on reddit.com
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r/minimalism on Reddit: Deciding on sleeping on a japanese futon...
June 29, 2020 -

Hello, I'm currently deciding whether I should get rid of my bed and sleep on a japanese futon or not. I have heard that sleeping in futons are healthy and comfortable. I'm planning to dispose of the bed so I can add another desk/table which will be used for my studies. I only have one small table in the room and my laptop occupies it. If I need to study or write, i have to move my laptop to another place and put it back again. It is kind of annoying for me to move things again and again. With the new desk, my things would have their own place.

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r/NoStupidQuestions on Reddit: How comfortable is a Japanese futon in relation to a mattress?
October 23, 2022 -

Been thinking about getting one for a long time. Save space, probably money if I ever needed a replacement, have more room to do stuff.

The reason I’m getting a little more serious about the idea is that like two weeks ago I woke up with some intense neck pains. Like someone strangled me in my sleep. The only thing I could really notice is that there’s a hefty gap between the bed and nightstand. I’ve been known to have some mild sleep walking symptoms so my guess is I feel down, messed up my neck but put myself back into bed.

To be honest I’ve always been afraid of falling out of bed, no matter the height. When I was in high school I completely removed the frame and box from my bed, instead opting to sleep with the mattress on the floor. My parents thought I was insane but I never told them why I actually did it.

How does a Japanese futon feel? Is it hard to clean? What else do you know about them?

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r/BuyItForLife on Reddit: BIFL: Japanese futon vs mattress for sleeping
June 8, 2023 -

Hi, BIFL-ers. Need some advice. Would you buy a Japanese futon (the ones where you lay a tatami mat, then put the futon padding on top) or get a mattress? Which would you get and why? What brand would you recommend? I'm conflicted because I've grown up sleeping only on mattresses and have never tried a Japanese futon, but I know I will be moving places a lot and Japanese futons just offer a lot of portability. I would also want to buy for life because looking at the typical materials for bedding just aren't great for the planet at the end of its life cycle. Thanks!

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r/JapanTravelTips on Reddit: How comfortable are futons?
October 3, 2025 -

Kind of a silly question, but my family and I are deciding between two places to stay several nights in: One has beds but it is further from the Kyoto hotspots, while another is closer but has futons. My parents are in their mid 60s, so I want to make sure it will be a comfortable stay especially for since we'll be staying 6 nights.

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r/moderatelygranolamoms on Reddit: Anyone use a Japanese floor mattress (futon)? Thinking of switching to this.
June 29, 2025 -

We tried sleep training and decided it wasn't for us (but still zero judgement for those who do it, and I'm not willing to argue with anyone here about it) so we will be continuing to co-sleep.

Because of this, our queen bed isn't going to work for our family anymore. My husband wants to buy a king, but I'm curious about a Japanese floor mattress instead. He said he could be game. I like the idea of being able to roll it up and put it away during the day and have more space for *activities* during the day

I also like that they're available made of more natural materials and much less expensive than a king sized bed.

Anyway, anyone have experience with this? Brands you like, how was the lifestyle change etc?

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r/unpopularopinion on Reddit: Japanese Futon are superior to western beds
March 12, 2022 -

Everybody should be sleeping on a futon. You have a bed. You need to move. You have to lug a bed frame and mattress. That is a pain in the ass.

You have a bedroom. There's a goddamned bed taking up space in the room. You've essentially lost a room. With a futon you could fold it up and put it in the closet. Now you have an extra room.

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r/BuyItForLife on Reddit: Japanese Futon! Which to buy?
May 28, 2025 -

I’m looking to buy a japanese futon for space and back pain reasons. I’ve read some of the older posts about it but they are a bit old and don’t have all the info I’m looking for. Brands I’m considering are The Futon Shop, Takaokaya Global, and Futon Beds from Japan . I've seen a lot of recommendations for The Futon Shop but not much info on the other two. The biggest difference I've noticed is The Futon Shop offers a 5-inch thickness with wool and cotton whereas the other ones seem to be thinner and only contain cotton.
There's a pretty good sale going on at The Futon Shop right now until June 2nd (tight window, i know) so if anyone can let me know soon, I would really appreciate it. There's just a lot of variables and i know squat about futons.

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Futonbedsfrom Japan experience? : r/floorsleeping
October 6, 2024 - I went with futonbedsfromjapan even though they are expensive for a futon (vs buying authentic in Japan), because I want to ensure I’m actually on shikibuton and not a rebranded American futon couch mattress (Jlife/goldbond, the futon shop, etc) or foam wrapped one. ... any update? im thinking of getting one from FBFJ but so scared of spending 6 hundo and not being able to return! ... They’re very high quality and do sleep more comfortably compared to the cheap futon I’ve tried (D&D furniture).
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r/minimalism on Reddit: Want a Japanese futon bed can anyone give me advice
December 8, 2023 -

The reason I’m looking into buying a futon is because I hear it can be really good for your back. I’m 21 and because of sports and bad posture habits my back is all fucked up. On top of that my current bed is made of really soft memory foam and I sink into it which isn’t helping my back. I’m looking for a reliable futon setup for a budget of about $400usd. My room has carpet so I also have questions on how I can realistically set it up and maintain it. Any advice would help Thanks

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r/minimalism on Reddit: Japanese Futon
November 14, 2022 -

Not necessarily a minimalism thing but I’m tired of air mattresses eventually failing for guests. I know these exist because many people on this subreddit use them as their primary bed. A lot of the reviews on Amazon are mixed at best. What Japanese futon is everyone using?

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r/japanese on Reddit: several questions about Futons and Japanese bedding.
April 9, 2022 -

Okay so to start off, i am american. Growing up i always slept on "palates" or "nests" on the floor consisting of a few thick comforters/blankets a cover and some pillows. Loved it. Now, i can never be comfortable in a normal bed and tend to sleep on couches chairs or floor. Also i cant STAND the massive amount of dead space standard beds have. My bedroom doubles as a workspace/craft space so having this massive thing in 80% of the area is insufferable.

  1. Do japanese folks actually pay the prices im seeing online for futons!? Im seeing sets for lowest $300USD going as far up as $2,000USD, and i just want to know if theyre upselling the aesthetic, if its actually that price, or if im just not using the right terminology.

  2. Im seeing several terms for different beds, some with a futon on a folded frame, some being a tatami style 3 segment fold up mattress, and some actual mattress looking beds, which one is the one that resembles something of a sleeping bag- but with more padding?

  3. I have pets, what covers/sheets/ storage options does everyone use other than a closet to keep it clean?

  4. Is it worth it? Ive been sleeping on the floor again the past few weeks and im getting terrible pressure points in my shoulder and hip if i sleep on my side, but i smother if im fully straight on my back, but ive noticed SIGNIFICANTLY less lower back pain since i started doing this again.

  5. Would i be better off with a twin or full size daybed? I am 5"5'

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The futons I bought in Japan were less than $100, I think. I can't imagine what could possibly go into a $2000 futon to make it worth it. "Futon" in English has a different meaning in English than it does in Japanese though - a futon is just the thin mattress that you lay on the floor, and you can roll it up. The couch-things or anything with a frame are, afaik, not what Japanese people would call a futon. The most important thing with a futon is hanging it somewhere to dry, because you sweat at night and it will go moldy otherwise. Worth it? Mm, dunno. If you're a back-sleeper it's pretty good, probably. It was very good for the tiny Tokyo flat I had - but I wouldn't say I miss it.
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outside of japan, $300~$800 is a pretty standard price since the exact type of blanket slash mattress isn't replicable by anything else. (i'm specifically referring to a one piece that is rollable/storable and is also comfortable - sleeping bags are pretty inferior unless you're also shelling out $1000+) they're extremely heavy to ship so i'd imagine that inflats costs as well. it's just a standard thing in japan and therefore the costs are much lower, and they're not usually shipping it cross country/continent. i had a futon set up in a tiny studio apartment (not in japan) for about a year & it worked well in that environment but does require a lot of upkeep. you're going to need to beat it/hang it up often, especially more with pets. it's not recommended to slap them on the floor without a cover or a tatami mat since they can accrue mold/dirt faster. you can find covers & cupboard mats for them at japanese convenience stores (ie. daiso) or use moisture-wicking cupboard liners. in general, housing outside east asia isn't well suited to it & it's mostly less hassle to have a normal bed, which is what i converted back to once i had more room. you also have to have the discipline to roll it up & remake your bed each night, otherwise the space it occupies is pretty similar to a conventional bed. in terms of comfort, i definitely like stiffer mattresses which helped - i knew a friend who sleeps on her stomach and found it pretty uncomfortable on a futon for an extended amount of time. you can get thicker/fluffier futons but it'll be more pricey and may become too warm in the summer.
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r/BuyItForLife on Reddit: Japanese Futon Recomandations
February 5, 2025 -

Hey there, I‘ve heard if the many benefits a japanese futon can have and would love to try. Now I took a look at the market and saw sites who priced their products as authentic etc. and I was wondering which one I could trust. So I decided to ask the lovely people on reddit regarding their experience with futons and recommendations

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To get this out of the way, TLDR: A Japanese futon is not intended to be, and will not be, BIFL. The lifetime of a Japanese futon is strongly dependent on following what I think most non-Japanese people would consider pretty intensive care instructions -- like placing the futon on a breathable surface (e.g. tatami mats), folding up and packing away the futon every day, and airing it out in direct sunlight weekly. If you spill something on it, good luck -- traditional futons from cotton can barely be cleaned, and even then only by specialty futon cleaners, which are going to be hard to find outside of Japan, and no matter where you are, very expensive and the turnaround time isn't fast. I would consider something that will need early replacement without dedicated adherence to strict care instructions to not totally be aligned with the BIFL spirit -- sure, it may be quality, but durable and practical not so much. How long can you get out of a traditional cotton-filled Japanese futon in the best case scenario? You can go longer of course like with any mattress, but after the 10 year mark you're very likely to experience a very noticeable drop off in comfort. For this reason, traditional futon shops do offer services like futon reconstruction (see this link for an example) where they try to re-use some of the materials but essentially re-make it. Also worth observing is that most Japanese people do not use futons, and of those that do, most buy the newer, cheaper, synthetic futons from places like Nitori (which I'd consider Target-esque, to make a US retail reference). The sythentic ones can be washed in a washing machine, which for most people, increase the lifetime because it can actually be cleaned if something happens. All that is to say, even in Japan, traditional futons are an (expensive) dying craft and now a specialty product. If you think you might want to try one, I'd recommend getting a cheap synthetic version and seeing how you like it -- it is very different in feel and care from a typical mattress situation. And if you do decide go eventually go down the futon route, embrace that it is more wabi-sabi than BIFL. The https://www.reddit.com/r/floorsleeping/ sub is your best bet for recommendations I think. My background: Lived in Japan. Have slept on floor mattresses for the past 20 years and loved them despite their intensive care instructions and propensity to mold (particularly in humid climates, like the UK, but even in dry climates like California) if those care instructions are not strictly followed. Currently use one of the modern style trifold foam mattresses on a Japanese-made desiccation floor sheet from Nitori.
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My futon is BIFL (so far...11 years). Two important things: Get a quality shikifuton, my rec: https://jlifeinternational.com/products/j-life-shikifuton Care: once a month, on a sunny day, I put it over a fence, beat the dust out of it and let it sit in the sun for a few hours.
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r/minimalism on Reddit: Sleeping on a futon
October 21, 2018 -

I am considering buying a futon to sleep on. I like sleeping on a hard surface and the idea of being able to stow it away easily during day time.

Is there anything I should consider regarding the purchase of a futon? Are there different qualities that I should be aware of?

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r/minimalism on Reddit: Need advice on Japanese futons?
April 8, 2025 -

I am considering getting a Japanese futon because:

1: I want to be able to fold it in the morning to create space since my apartment isn’t too big and I work remotely.

2: my scoliosis tends to like somewhat firmer cushioning.

Questions/thoughts:

1: do I need a tatami mat? Or if I fold it daily, clean the floors weekly, then mold should be a non Issue?

2: what sheets do I use? I’d like to be able to have sheets and clean them weekly.

3: would you recommend cotton, wool, or polyester?

4: where are the best places to order them and the process for that? My budget is 300-500. I would like a double or a twin sized.

5: when you fold them away, do you keep the sheets on or take them off and fold those too?

6: if I am cleaning the floors weekly and picking the futon up daily, dust accumulation shouldn’t be an issues?

7: if I were to get a tatami mat I think I’d like to have a foldable one to put away during the day. Unless you just treat it like a carpet?

8: if not a tatami, I would get a bed wooden plate that I can rolle up just so I can prevent mold.

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Japanese Floor Mattress: Recommendations needed : r/minimalism
February 7, 2025 - It's light and tidy too, as Japanese beds can be very heavy. I like that it can fold easily, and doubles as a couch. Remember that anything thats on the ground needs to be aired and sunned. ... Nice! We're lucky to live in a sunny area with a terrace, so we'll place it there.
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r/minimalism on Reddit: Japanese Futon Comfort Level
April 23, 2013 -

I have recently been thinking about getting rid of my big, bulky bed and getting a japanese style futon. I love the minimalistic qualities it has, but I'm not sure how comfortable it would be. Could anyone who has made the transition tell me about their experience?

Thanks in advance