So I've been looking around online and in stores, and the 507's seem to be nowhere (other than eBay), not even Levi's website. I'm assuming they've been discontinued, though I can't find any concrete answer. The 507's fit me perfectly and I'm about to buy a pair of Clarks so I wanted to pick up a few more slim boot cut jeans.

So my question is, to people who have worn/know about 507's: Are the 517's a viable alternative/substitute? Maybe they just changed the numbers and they're the same exact pair? Any help would be great, thanks guys!

I'm a noob at this and don't have the money for a high end pair, but I needed some new jeans and tried to find something that could potentially work. These were old stock at Cavenders (a Western store chain in Atlanta), so I'm not sure what the waah was was called. But they're not the current "rinse" offering Levi's has

I didn't soak these so I'm kinda worried they're going to shrink a lot. We'll see. Has anyone faded these before? Any tips?

I'm looking to get a pair of 517s. Since they're not available in my country, I need to test my luck and order online. I'm confused, however, since these 2 pairs seem to be exactly the same except they're named differently (ex. black vs welcome to the rodeo).

That said, is the color all there is to it? To illustrate, there are pairs where the color is evidently different (dark wash vs old western roads). Though for some pairs like the black one, I think it's just the back pocket which differs.

I'm also even more confused since they have different style numbers and one is just around USD70 while the other is USD98.

Any help would be appreciated. Thank you!

Pair 1 (Style # 005170260): https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/bootcut/517TM-bootcut-mens-jeans/p/005170260

Pair 2 (Style # 005170244): https://www.levi.com/US/en_US/clothing/men/jeans/bootcut/517TM-bootcut-mens-jeans/p/005170244