If we're going by the same schedule as the Powerbeats then it's gonna be another year or two More on reddit.com

so am i. fit bit pro is far better than powerbeats ugly design more secure fit and solid during exercise or daily use More on reddit.com

Bummer. No H2. No wireless charging. No conversation awareness. What’s the “update”? More on reddit.com

So I just opened my Powerbeats Pro 2... I have NOT yet worn them for a workout, I'll do that later today, but I have to admit I have concerns. I had the Powerbeats Pro for maybe 1.5 years, then the Beats Fit Pro for 3 years now... my initial impressions are these: The sound is similar to the BFP, I would not say the PBP2 is superior. Not a big deal for me, I like them both. The ANR and Transparency with a properly fit eartip is *about the same* for the PBP2 and BFP. I've tried with furnace noise, TV in the background, and a speaker playing airplane noise and really they are very very close. If anything the BFP may actually make a room sound slightly quieter but it's really hard to tell. This is NOT the big improvement people talk about going from the H1 in the AirPods Pro to the H2 in the AirPods Pro 2... I already thought the BFP was good, meaning this is good too, but this isn't really better in a meaningful way which is disappointing I guess. The PBP2 came with the medium sized tips installed, and they are too small for my ears (not surprising, I typically use large) and would lose a good seal (and fail the test) if I moved my jaw around. I switched to large tips and that made the right PBP2 feel pretty good but the left was still a bit too loose and really moving around my jaw or head banging would loosen the left eartip and at would fail the test and feel loose. (I want to be clear: in this entire paragraph when I say "loose" I mean the ear seal, NOT the entire earbud itself, nothing will cause these to fall off with the hook.) I finally switched both the left and the right to the XL seal and then both feel pretty good. I still think they feel looser / less perfect on the seal than the BFP which for me *really* locks in with the wingtip and even with a LOT of head movement really don't move at all. I'm a person who can't wear AirPods or AirPods Pro *at all* without them falling out, even sitting over time they will fall out, and the first generation PBP and even more so the BFP (because of the smaller size and ANR) were revelations for me. The magnets in the case align and hold the PBP2 *much* more securely than the old PBP and case, and I bet they have totally resolved the charging connection issues that plagued the PBP last generation. You can even open the case and violently shake it upside down and they won't come out or budge in the least. The PBP2 look way better than the PBP did and I think they look the best of any behind the ear hook style headphones. I still have a soft spot for the BFP because I think they look great and are more subtle when NOT working out. I do feel the PBP2 will be slightly more comfortable than the BFP because of the fact they feel "looser" inside the ear for me than the locked in BFP. If they can maintain sound quality and ANR while I'm running and overtime while being more comfortable that would be the number 1 reason why you might consider than better than the BFP, but I've grown VERY used to the BFP over the last 3 years and I'm not bothered by the strong hold inside my ear until I've been wearing them for many, many hours. The case is much better sized than the old PBP case. It's still about 50% larger than the BFP. The way I describe it is like this: 1) the AirPods case is EASY and ideal to fit in your pants pocket 2) the BFP case can fit in your pants pocket and it isn't a big deal, but it is a slightly noticeable bulge that isn't ideal 3) the PBP2 can fit in your pants pocket in an emergency, but you wouldn't want to ever really carry it this way and really should carry this in a bag unless you really had too. The old PBP case... you *couldn't* carry that in pants... ever. It's nice the case is wirelessly charging now... it is silly the BFP case doesn't. Obviously I have used these less than 30 minutes and not even for one workout so this all was probably grossly unfair but I do have concerns like I said. I won't be using the HR functionality of the PBP2 since I use an Apple Watch so these need to be at least one or more of the following to justify using over the 1) better sound 2) better ANR or transparency 3) more comfortable and secure fit. Right now I'm concerned for me it really isn't any of the those 3 things as while it is "secure" in the sense it doesn't fall off my ear if the inner seal is looser and feels awkward or hurts ANR that's a big miss for me. I'm going to give it a fair shake but perhaps I was just one of those people the BFP was perfect for... More on reddit.com