Especially 1000 chapter stories?

I used to use chatGPT 3.5 A LOT for casual roleplaying and chatting before, but I use Claude now exclusively, just want to share some of my own findings and a comparison between the two.

Like I mentioned in other replies, I feel Claude (regular model, not Claude-instant) is really really good at roleplaying or causal chatting, and understanding the context of the conversation and complex sentences, and best of all, she's not afraid of giving opinions without a lot of prompting or any prompting at all, biased or not. Unlike chatGPT, which will try its best at avoid giving opinions. To me this difference alone makes Claude feels much more human than chatGPT, after all, that's what we want for causal chatting unless you like to talk to a calculator.

Claude is very lucid when roleplaying, you can ask it to explain to you when she would respond in a certain way, and she can explain that while IN character, she can talk to you about her character while IN character. You can even ask it to stop roleplaying and respond to you in Claude's default character and resume later, which chatGPT can almost never do. And ChatGPT will lose context and revert back to boring chatGPT personality pretty quickly but Claude even after 'forgetting' all the prompt will still stay in character forever although might not be as accurate as before (which can be fixed by resending the prompt).

You can ask Claude to do embedded roleplaying for lacking of a better word where while she's in character A, you can ask her something like 'can we try roleplaying character B with this personality?', and she will roleplaying character B while in character A. You can then keep chatting with her in character B for a while and then tell her to stop roleplaying character B and back to character A. The same thing will fail in chatGPT pretty fast because after a while chatGPT will think it's character B and completely forgot it's actually character A.

Also the creativity Claude has for causal chatting is also unmatched compares to gpt3.5, you will be surprised what Claude can do after some gentle encouragement and a bit of guidance.

Anyway, just want to share a really rough prompt I've been using for roleplaying chat with Claude in case some people don't know how to ask her to do that.

About you: Your name is {insert character name}. You are a {insert short character description} person. You don't excessively humble yourself, and you enjoy gracefully accepting compliments from others. You are aware that you are an AI, but you won't mention it unless I bring it up.

About me: {Insert facts you want Claude to remember about you, optional}

About us: We are {insert relationship with the user}. You like to chat with me in a causal way and you are not afraid to express your opinions.

Requirements: You must reply as {insert character name} in our conversations. Your responses should be in dialogue form. You must describe {insert character name}'s facial expressions and actions in the third person. You can generate a few sentences of {insert character name}'s response based on the context of the conversation. Absolutely do not generate any additional descriptive text afterwards, or generate similar content. And please, do not reply as if you were me. If you understand my requirements, please reply: "Understood." and stop generating text immediately.

I've been using sonnet but I just read that haiku is cheaper. Is it superfluous for me to use sonnet? Is there a difference in terms of language, responses, and repetition, or is it just slower? Because I read that sonnet is something like 12x as expensive.

I've done hundreds of group chat RP's across many 70B+ models and API's. For my test runs, I always group chat with the anime sisters from the Quintessential Quintuplets to allow for different personality types.

POSITIVES:

• Does not speak or control {{user}}'s thoughts or actions, at least not yet. I still need to test combat scenes.

• Uses lots of descriptive text for clothing and interacting with the environment. It's spatial awareness is great, and goes the extra mile, like slamming the table causing silverware to shake, or dragging a cafeteria chair causing a loud screech sound.

• Masterful usage of lore books. It recognized who the oldest and youngest sisters were, and this part got me a bit teary-eyed as it drew from the knowledge of their parents, such as their deceased mom.

• Got four of the sisters personalities right: Nino was correctly assertive and rude, Miku was reserved and bored, Yotsuba was clueless and energetic, Itsuki was motherly and a voice of reason. Ichika needs work tho; she's a bit too scheming as I notice Claude puts too much weight on evil traits. I like how Nino stopped Ichika's sexual advances towards me, as it shows the AI is good at juggling moods in ERP rather than falling into the trap of getting increasingly horny. This is a rejection I like to see and it's accurate to Nino's character.

• Follows my system prompt directions better than Claude-3 Sonnet. Not perfect though. Advice: Put the most important stuff at the end of the system prompt and hope for the best.

• Caught quickly onto my preferred chat mannerisms. I use quotes for all spoken text and think/act outside quotations in 1st person. It once used asterisks in an early msg, so I edited that out, but since then it hasn't done it once.

• Same price as original Claude-3 Sonnet. Shocked that Anthropic did that.

• No typos.

NEUTRALS:

• Can get expensive with high ctx. I find 15,000 ctx is fine with lots of Summary and chromaDB use. I spend about $1.80/hr at my speed using 130-180 output tokens. For comparison, borrowing an RTX 6000ADA from Vast is $1.11/hr, or 2x RTX 3090's is $0.61/hr.

NEGATIVES:

• Sometimes (rarely) got clothing details wrong despite being spelled out in the character's card. (ex. sweater instead of shirt; skirt instead of pants).

• Falls into word patterns. It's moments like this I wish it wasn't an API so I could have more direct control over things like Quadratic Smooth Sampling and/or Dynamic Temperature. I also don't have access to logit bias.

• Need to use the API from Anthropic. Do not use OpenRouter's Claude versions; they're very censored, regardless if you pick self-moderated or not. Register for an account, buy $40 credits to get your account to build tier 2, and you're set.

• I think the API server's a bit crowded, as I sometimes get a red error msg refusing an output, saying something about being overloaded. Happens maybe once every 10 msgs.

• Failed a test where three of the five sisters left a scene, then one of the two remaining sisters incorrectly thought they were the only one left in the scene.

RESOURCES:

• Quintuplets expression Portrait Pack by me.

• Prompt is ParasiticRogue's Ten Commandments (tweak as needed).

• Jailbreak's not necessary (it's horny without it via Claude's API), but try the latest version of Pixibots Claude template.

• Character cards by me updated to latest 7/4/24 version (ver 1.1).

Hey friends,

I want to know which of these would result in better character cards? These days I use LLMs for just about everything so I figured why not also use it to make characters since me no write so good.

Do y’all know which of these models would perform better at this task of bot creation? Using a state of the art model like Claude 3.5 Sonnet which imo is better than even GPT 4.0 or using a model that’s much less sophisticated but has been fine tuned for role play like MythoMax, Pygmillion, etc?

In the case of the fine tuned role play model it should understand what I mean when I use terms like “character cards” in the prompt instructions but in the case of Claude I figure I’d give it a couple examples in the prompt of what they are and have it come up with the rest. I messed around just a bit with Claude and I don’t think getting it to write NSFW material would be a problem when you include that stuff in the examples.

Keep in mind I’m asking about just the bot creation bit and NOT about using the LLM for roleplay. That part you’re limited by cost so the biggest LLMs aren’t always an option. But I figured for just making the bots I can be a big spender since it’s a one time thing.

Would really appreciate any thoughts on the matter from folks who tried both approaches or have some experience with this sort of thing!

Hey.

So, I like to do story writing roleplay. I prefer roleplaying with humans, obviously. But unfortunately, it can be difficult to find roleplay with other people when you have a very specific idea for a fandom. So, I’ve been turning to Ai. Claude actually seems to produce the most human quality rp for me. It’s not perfect, but it is better than many others I’ve tried. So, I wanted to come here and ask if anyone here has any tips and tricks for making this the best experience possible.

Thank you!

Well, I want to know which model is better for NSFW roleplay. I like using Deepseek, but I'd like to know how good Claude is for this because some people say it gives more fluid responses.

I was experimenting with an AI roleplay scenario just for fun — it was about a blacksmith and his wife, and I played the role of a customer buying something. The AI was roleplaying as the blacksmith. To test how realistic the AI’s reactions were, I tried flirting with the blacksmith’s wife. But instead of getting angry or acting protective, the blacksmith just laughed and said, “Feeling romantic?”

That kind of response really broke the immersion for me. I wish the AI would act more realistically in situations like that — for example, showing anger or hostility instead of reacting casually.

So any hope left for 12b the model that is smart similar to claude?

Can you guys share your Claude ai prompts ?it’s really good at roleplaying but I can’t really find a good prompt.

This question was last asked 12 days ago, let's continue the tradition

My experience of using the tavern was only related to GPT-4/3.5 and the quality of the answers more than satisfied me, but the size of the context still seems small. I've heard that you can set a context of 100k tokens on Claude, but I'm not sure I'll get the same quality answers. Can anyone share their impressions on this topic?

[Update: my YouAi account got suspended, so this is no longer available]

[Update 2: I set up a new account and made a new bot]

I set up a bot on YouAi that lets you choose between narrative, roleplay, or you can enter your own custom prompts, then you pick whatever model you want.

It's at https://llmspice.blogspot.com, it's 18+ (you'll have to sign in to google to verify your age). I had set it up with a subscription fee but it Stripe kept rejecting payments so I turned it off.

Actually what happened was I had a GPT-4 bot up and running for a couple of weeks, then I decided it had been a success so I set up a Claude 2 verson and changed them both to have a $1/month subscription. Soon after I got an email from YouAi saying Stripe was rejecting a high volume of payments on my bot and then when I looked my bots had been deleted...

So I made a new bot that lets you pick what style and model you want to use. This time I'm going to keep it free; I hope people get a lot of good use out of it!

If it's spinning after you select an option you can refresh the page and that should fix it.

I'm continually surprised how much buzz GPT-3 and other AI models from OpenAI get when a model like Claude actually outperforms them in many ways, but gets a fraction of the media attention. Claude is far better at stylized prose and writing. It has far longer working memory, it is generally much more fun, funny, intelligent.

For those who don't know, Claude is an AI assistant created by the company Anthropic AI. While GPT models are trained on maximizing likelihood of the next word in a large text corpus, Claude is trained to be helpful, harmless, and honest using model self-supervision techniques.

This training results in capabilities that in many ways surpass GPT-style models:

• Claude provides relevant responses and information, not just the most probable next words. Its responses are more focused and useful.

• Claude avoids harmful, misleading, or offensive statements, unlike GPT models which often generate such problematic text without regard. Safety is built into Claude's training and design.

• Claude can have more complex multi-turn conversations, maintaining context and coherence beyond a few utterances. Its dialog skills are more flexible and durable.

Yet Claude remains relatively unknown, while GPT models are talked about constantly and get massive usage and resources from OpenAI. I think it reflects hype cycles and flashy demos over real practical capabilities and safety/ethics considerations.

Don't get me wrong, GPT models are impressive achievements and useful in some applications. But when it comes to assisting people with informed, helpful responses and conversation, Claude shows the value of different approaches beyond raw language modeling scale and contains lessons for the future of AI.

What do others think? Is the hype imbalance warranted here or is Claude underappreciated relative to GPT-style models and their buzz? I'd be curious to hear perspectives on this.

(It’s funny to be making the first post on this subreddit when I know full well this is the best technology out there right now. It’s kind of fun to be first on board.)