Winter hitting hard here in the Midwest. Productivity getting worse. Maxed out on my vitamin Ds and other multivitamina.
I need SAD lamp recommendations.The buzzwords I've read so far is 10000 lux. Is there something better out there for productivity? How long before you start working do you use it? How frequently?
Please drop me your favorite brands AND Amazon links if possible (pretty please). I'm okay investing a little bit more and going up to or more $50.
I've looked into the light boxes as well. But I was wondering if anyone has had any luck with any bulbs that just go in lamps that has helped them. I wasn't really sure where to post this either, sorry.
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I have a home office in my basement that has built in lights in the ceiling. I am trying to find which light bulbs are closest to sunlight since I am spending a lot of time in the room and it gets very little sunlight. Right now I have fluorescent lights in the room, and am wondering if there is a better option. Thanks in advance for the help!
The long night is upon us! Fellow Portlandians, what’s your favorite vitamin d lamp?? Reviews online are always kinda bogus and convoluted. Would appreciate community recommendations!
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I remember reading about SAD lamps and how to choose them in SSC but I can't seem to find the post. Does anyone have any direct experience what works well and what doesn't? Does anyone know a trustworthy review source?
I still have a number of lamps to test, but since we’ve hit the gloomy season I thought I’d share this with ya’ll in case you’re in the market for one!
For those of you who want to check it out: Here’s the database!
(I now also have a list of the best SAD lamps according to my testing for those interested
It’s hard to know who’s telling the truth about their products, this includes SAD lamps. So just like in my previous post on blue-blocking glasses, I set out to objectively test these lamps with a lab-grade spectrometer!
Testing is done by placing each lamp 1 foot from the spectrometer. Readings are then taken every minute for an hour.This allows me to see what the emission spectrum is like over time since LEDs often shift (sometimes quite dramatically) as they warm up...
The following metrics were tested:
Lux
This is of course the most popular measurement for a SAD lamp. Lux is an area-based numerical value based on the spectrum of light a human is most visually sensitive to.
We often see "10,000 lux" touted as the holy grail minimum, and so many lamps claim to hit this as a sort of buzzword marketing gimmick. But...
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There's nothing special about hitting a minimum of 10,000 lux, so I wouldn't be overly concerned with that number specifically.
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There's a better metric for circadian effectiveness anyway...
Circadian Light
Using the spectral data collected during testing, we can calculate the circadian light from each light source.
Circadian light is similar to lux, but is spectrally weighted towards the portion of the visible spectrum most suited to activating the ipRGCs in your eye, or your circadian system.
This means that a light source that emits let's say 5,000 lux and 4,000 CLA is less effective than a lamp that emits 4,500 lux and 4,500 CLA.
When it comes to white light, these metrics track pretty well with each other, generally more lux means more CLA, but not always!
So just something to be aware of.
Lux per in²
One more thing to keep in mind with a SAD lamp is how comfortable it is, not just how bright and effective it is.
For this reason, I’ve measured each light’s radiating area and calculated the “lux per in²" from each, which gives you an idea of just how much “glare” a light source might have.
There is a better metric for circadian effectiveness anyway... then look for the standout bright lights with low glare, which at this time are the Alaska Northern Light NorthStar and the Carex Classic. These lights offer disproportionately more light output for their size than others.
I personally found that going over a Glare of around 300 starts to get a little uncomfortable. Doable but I prefer equal to or less than.
Note: This is all based on a 1-foot measurement on the brightest setting of course, so you can move things away and dim them to modulate this effect.
Other Stuff
We’ve also tested CRI, color temperature, SPDs or spectral graphs, flicker, and more!
So hopefully this resource will help you objectively find the right SAD lamp if you’re on the hunt for one!
Any suggestions or questions are welcome!
Since I already know people are going to ask, I’m planning on buying and testing the Chroma Sky Portal lights soon!
Looking for recommendations for a seasonal affective disorder lamp for this upcoming winter.
Looking for $25-50 range. Was thinking about one I can wake up to. Thought about one with a timer, then realized I could just pair it with an old- fashioned outlet timer too. Looked on Amazon, but there's too many out there with questionable reviews.
My little sister has a light that she shines on herself in winter to deal with seasonal disorder (Montreal doesn't get a lot of sun in winter...).
I saw last season an ad for lightbulbs that can be used anywhere in the house that have similar effects.
Has anyone looked into them? Are they useful, or is it just a marketing scam?
It's certainly possible to make and sell bulbs that output similar frequencies to the sun, but compared to a dedicated lamp I can think of a few obvious disadvantages:
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They'll almost certainly be dimmer then a lamp.
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You'll sit further away from a regular light bulb.
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If, like me, you prefer to get your dose of artificial sunlight in the morning and not in the evening, because getting a dose too late on throws off your ability to sleep at night, you're screwed: unless you change your light bulb twice a day.
tl;dr: they might work, but they wouldn't work for me
I agree. You will run into issues of light intensity.
SAD stinks. Happy lights are just one piece of addressing it. Diet, exercise, vitamin D, anti-depressants, meditation, and/or cognitive behavior therapy may also help. If you think SAD is an issue, please talk to a dr to get help.
Now is a good time of year to work on SAD, as for some people the effects can get worse as winter progresses.
Do you have any recommendations for a SAD (seasonal affective disorder) lamp?
A couple of years ago they all seemed to cost £200+, but today I can see several dozen different cheaper units on Amazon.
Do you have a tried and tested SAD lamp?
What features do you like best about yours?
Is a higher cost justified or can a cheaper unit achieve a similar effect? I'm happy to spend more if it's for the best.
Would very much appreciate your advice!
EDIT: Forgot to mention that I am truly, truly awful waking on dark mornings and would ideally like a lamp which can work on a timer.
Which design sad lamp is the best?
What matters is to use it regularly and start early before Winter, specific model does not matter all that much.
If you check in this group, you’ll see a lot of recommendations because some people use “untraditional” SAD lamps that work, so it’s not necessarily one size fits all.
It seems some people need more and brighter lights than others. I’ve seen some people buy those big photography lights (I don’t know what they’re called) and have success, and other people use smaller desk sized lights and have success!
I’ve tried a bunch but I’ve never used any consistently to know which one is better 😂 (thanks ADHD and brain fog 😂😂)
There are so many options
Need a new bulb and felt one that would make me happier in the dark winter nights would be best, but not sure if its useful or what's the best colour temperature to go for.
All the best Snazzy Robot
I live in upstate NY, so I don’t plan on seeing the sun until mid-April. I currently have some smart bulbs in the lamps next to my bed, and they fade in as I wake up in the morning. The only problem is, these bulbs are just one standard color, and I know that lights that help with SAD are recommended to be a blue-ish hue.
Does anyone have any experience with or recommendations for this? I would assume that any smart light bulb with a decent color selection could probably get the job done, but I figured I would ask here first just in case there is a particular bulb that seems to get the color just right.
Thanks in advance!
I picked up one of those bright therapy lights for seasonal depression this week, and honestly… I didn’t realize how much the darkness was affecting me until now. Within a few days, I’ve felt my mornings shift less groggy, more focused, and even my cravings for dopamine hits feel lower.
If anyone’s been feeling that winter slump or low motivation after quitting weed/caffeine/etc., this thing legit helps. I just sit in front of it for 15–20 minutes in the morning while I journal or drink my shake.
Not a cure-all, but definitely a game changer for energy and mood. Anyone else tried one of these yet??
I recently moved north of the 45th parallel (US), and as the weather has already started to turn I'm concerned about my seasonal affective disorder getting unmanageable (I've always just relied on vitamin D supplements). I also have a delayed sleep cycle (longer than 24 hours) and years ago a sleep neurologist suggested getting a sun lamp but I never did because the costs were just too high. Any suggestions for budget friendly lamps that actually work?
I saw that Target had one for like 40 bucks but would be willing to spend more for a better one if that's not going to be effective. Thanks
I've used this model for years: https://www.amazon.com/Philips-GoLite-Energy-Therapy-Rechargeable/dp/B07FFV2LXT/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=sad+lamp+phillips&qid=1605529477&s=hpc&sr=1-6
I like to remind folks that in addition to getting the right lux value, equally important is regular use at roughly the same time every morning. You won't get much benefit if you only use it on occasion, when you remember, at odd times. Regular use. Every day. I say this because the light you get might determine where you have to sit, which may decrease the likelihood of regular use. This light is compact and has a battery so it doesn't need to be plugged in.
edit: clearing up autocorrect text, clarifying the importance of regular use.
The recommended "dose" is a 10,000 lux light for 20-30 minutes. The small box at Target is rated at 10,000 lux...at 4". At 18" away you'll want to run it for 3-4 hours at a time for a similar "dose."
The super cheap lamps are often just a Daylight compact fluorescent bulb behind a diffuser. The $40 one I'm looking at online from Target uses a 100 or 150 watt bulb.
What’s your experience?
Greetings!
Winter is coming and mornings are getting darker every day and they will be in my neck of woods for the next 4-monhts. I have to wake up at 6:30 every morning to get ready for work and when my alarm rings it's still dark outside which makes me groggy. To have a more pleasant morning experience, I was thinking about getting a smart-bulb which would simulate a sunrise effect. According to some studies I've read, that might help a bit with morning grogginess.
I was curious to know - has anyone had experience with setting up bedroom smart-lights to "sunset" mode before waking up? How did that work out for You? Have You noticed a pleasant affect when using this feature?
Which bulb would You recommend for this purpose? I am looking for a Wi-Fi or hub-less option. That's basically the only smart feature I'm looking to implement in my apartament without buying additional gadgets, besides the bulb itself.
Thanks!
Edit:
I do have a bedside lamp in which I would screw in the smart-bulb and leave it on 24/7. My plan was to set up the bulb using a smartphone app with the desired sunrise settings and forget it. Hence my idea for not wanting a hub.