This has been posted in the past but want 2024 most up to date answer. We want something that will last and is of high quality. Looking for responses from plumbers, but any input is appreciated. Talking about sinks, showers, tubs, toilets, and any other sundry plumbing fixture.
I am looking at getting a very nice kitchen faucet for Christmas. I ruled out Moen since their faucets were limited to 1.5GPM flow whereas Brizo and Axor have about 1.8 GPM. Really what I want is a quality, durable, as little plastic as possible (I know some is unavoidable like in the lines) faucet. No interest in the electronic options at all.
Which do you recommend? Warranty language on both are the same. The Hansgrohe Axor’s “laminar flow” seems fancy, but I’m worried that will just result in less fluid velocity (since GPM is the same) and will ultimately feel like it has low pressure.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. I’m a buy once / cry once person.
I am looking at getting a very nice kitchen faucet for Christmas. I ruled out Moen since their faucets were limited to 1.5GPM flow whereas Brizo and Axor have about 1.8 GPM. Really what I want is a quality, durable, as little plastic as possible (I know some is unavoidable like in the lines) faucet. No interest in the electronic options at all.
Which do you recommend? Warranty language on both are the same. The Hansgrohe Axor’s “laminar flow” seems fancy, but I’m worried that will just result in less fluid velocity (since GPM is the same) and will ultimately feel like it has low pressure.
Any thoughts would be appreciated. I’m a buy once / cry once person.
My architect really likes the Hansgrohe products. What are your professional opinions on them?
What about Brizo? From what I can tell, it's the fancy Delta line.
Both kinda meh IMO. I have a Hansgrohe shower head I love, but other than that not too into them. Parts take longer to get for one. Brizo I have not had good experiences with at all though
I like the higher end HansGrohe products, their base line is pretty much junk; you are usually better off buying Moen in the same price range. If you are in higher end market, I recommend considering Grohe products or Toto (where applicable); solid products that are built to last.
First time going through renovation. What shower systems do you recommend?
Local stores are passing brands I’ve never heard of handsgrove, Isenberg, etc. Are advising against Delta.
Thanks in advance!
Have folks heard about this brand? We’re doing a major remodel of a kitchen and a couple of bathrooms and our GC sent us over to their vendor who they have worked with for 25 years. We saw what we loved in the showroom and they kind of steered us towards California faucets and mentioned others are like 2-3 time more.
We picked what we liked withi it seeing the pricing thinking it wasn’t crazy. When we got home and did some research, these are like $1500 for a stainless steel Blanco farmhouse sink and like $1300-$1800 for faucets.
We haven’t bought anything but just shocked. Is going into a showroom a bad idea?
My son broke off his tub spout, which you all know is normally an easy fix, but the plumbing installation was a hack job behind the wall. The nipple was iron in brass (a few instance of that in and around his house)
The brass fitting was a dog ear elbow, but there was no backer, so it wasn't mounted to anything. The bit of copper to the elbow was type m, so naturally when I went to remove the corroded nipple, the pipe snapped off inside the wall.
I decided since I had to cut into the wall to repair it, I might as well upgrade their 35+ year old fixture, it's a low end brand that's been butchered a bit over the years when folks went to replace the cartridge.
The shower head was roughed in at the usual middle of the road height of 65"(you know, to accommodate kids and adults), and I'd like to move it to 72 since now I've discovered the the elbow it's mounted to is also floating, it's not mounted to a backer.
The building had the stucco contractor form the walls in the tub/shower just to make things maximum fun for me to work with.
So I just want to know what your favorites are as far as styles and brands. I personally don't like the cheapy tub spouts with the cheapy diverters that always leak and don't last that long.
Price range is middle of the road, so not the cheapest Moen or Delta, but also not the top of the line Hansgrohe.
Hey guys, did anyone have any experience with Brizo Showers (delta’s brand). Originally wanted to install Grohe but ran across some nice Brizo models and now not sure about Grohe. TIA
Hey fellow plumbers. Simple question, do you have a go-to brand or supplier for very high end faucets? I have a customer who wants to replace his Dornbracht kitchen faucet which was around $1500. I've been looking around online but am hesitant. My usual supplier (Ferguson) and rep haven't been very helpful thus far. Thanks for any input.
hello! I am a homeowner seeking opinions from plumbers on Kohler vs Hansgrohe products (valves, controls, and trim kits) for shower, bath, and sink faucets--the shiny chrome and parts seen and unseen (I am not asking about toilets, sinks, tubs, etc.)
I've been reading online that--for the most part--Kohler still manufactures many of its components in the US and assembles these finished products in the US; I've also read that Kohler has a good warranty and is good to deal with when need replacements in later years.
I've also read that Hansgrohe products are of a higher quality than Grohe, but that both of these companies' products are primarily assembled in Asia (or Mexico) from components manufactured in Asia (or Mexico). I've read that both of these companies have limited warranties of 5 years or so.
So I'm writing to ask for your opinions or experiences with either Kohler or Hansgrohe shower/tub controls, shower heads, etc. I have read posts here on this sub that say that Kohler stinks now, or that Hansgrohe isn't worth the money...
I'm really curious what professionals who have recently installed these think; I've already heard a lot from employees in fancy design stores. Quality, warranty, longevity?? Thanks so much!
I'm getting frustrated shopping the box stores trying to find shower and bathroom fixtures that don't feel like plastic junk.
Are there any brands that are truly of higher quality? I'm not worried bout the higher costs.
Hansgrohe
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For fixtures that are easy to replace, I'm ok with most any brand that looks good and isn't plastic. For things that are difficult to replace like shower fixtures, I only use Kohler. I avoid Pfister for most anything as I've never seen one not start leaking through in less than 18 months in my area of high mineral content and hard water.
As u/litlluvbug mentioned, most brands produce 'tier 1' lines that are cheaper for mass retail. As with nearly anything, you get what you pay for.
Hi r/plumbing! I am getting ready to gut my bathroom and completely remodel it. I am in the process of selecting my fixtures and have gotten a lot of conflicting information regarding shower valves and trims.
Three contractors have told me to get the Grohflex shower valve and Grohe trim. When I went to the store to look at them in person, the woman at the store told me that Grohe is more or less garbage because they use a lot of plastic in their trims. She told me Hansgrohe is much better. The price point is about the same.
So I ask my good friend who is a licensed plumber and GC how he felt about Grohe vs Hansgrohe, and he told me that Grohe is #1 and Hansgrohe is crap. So I went to another store, and the guy at the store tells me they are more or less the same. My main issue with Grohe and Hansgrohe is that the back plate to the pressure balance valve trim is plastic, and I worry that it won't hold up for 20 years.
I started looking into higher end stuff like Graff because they don't use any plastic in their trims. Everything is solid brass. But I couldn't find a lot of information regarding the longevity of their valves and the long-term performance of their trims. Cost is a factor, but not a huge factor as I hope to never have to remodel this bathroom again for as long as we own the house. That said, the Graff stuff is a heck of a lot more expensive than Grohe and Hansgrohe.
So my question is, who makes the best shower valve and trim? I'm not talking ease of installation, because I am not doing the work myself. A lot of the anecdotes I've read about valves has been that plumbers really like Delta and Moen for their ease of installation. I am not a fan of their trims or corresponding sink faucets. What I want to know is, what is least likely to leak and cause problems for me? Bonus points if they have a stylish selection of trims. Thank you for your help.
Update: Thanks everyone for your feedback. I’m going to look into the higher end Delta stuff.