CANON R6 - 10 bit CLOG 3 confusion
Canon R6 - CLog 3
Canon R6 - Some noob questions about shooting log footage
Looking for Color Grading Advice (C-Log3): canon r6 mark ii
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Hi there,
I notice there has been a fair amount of confusion on this subject and I am yet to find a definitive answer.
I purchased a monitor with a wide P3 colour gamut, I plan to use this as my primary colour grade monitor but I would like some clarification:
I shot some footage for a Music video with BT709, is this the same as REC709 and such although shot using CLOG 3 does this give me limited creativity in post?
Next, what is cinema gamut and such does changing to this give me the widest colour grading potential?
That should be all for now, I simply want a definitive answer for myself and those wondering in the future.
Many thanks
So, question about CLog 3 on my R6. Having some troubles embracing this new one due to the ISO 800 base. Most of my video is shot in daylight, and I am finding I am constantly having to max out my ND filters to meet even the CLog 2 ISO 400. I can see the benefit when shooting in controlled lighting, but for any day time shooting it is a tough one to embrace. Further, if I shoot a mix of CLog 2 and CLog 3, I cannot see an easy way to differentiate in Premiere and that makes the Capture LUT process a real pain in the ass.
Any thoughts and suggestions? Is CLog 3 in ISO 400 better than CLog 2 in ISO 400? Probably not, but anyone with experience know?
Thanks!
Hi all,
I am getting more into the video side of things (mainly a portrait photog) and am having a little bit of an uphill battle learning to work with log.
I have a first gen R6 which can shoot in Clog (709, 2020) and Clog 3 (709, 2020 and Cinema Gamut).
I am finally feeling comfortable on the grading side of things (using DaVinci Resolve Studio 18.5) but am a little confused about exposing properly, esp at night time in low light settings.
Here is what I have gathered to far:
Native ISO for Clog is 400
Native ISO for Clog3 is 800
Coming from the photo side of things I thought that I can bump up the ISO to get the right exposure but this has lead to a lot of noise in the footage.
I am now understanding that for video we must stick to the base ISO…is this correct?
Some videos I have watched mentioning going in multiples of 800…so 800. 1600. 3200.
I think we’re supposed to overexpose log by 1.5 stops but if that isn’t possible due to certain lighting conditions, how can I get the best (min noise) end product?
I have tried denoising in DR and it takes away from the sharpness quite a bit.
Topaz AI Video denoiser does a decent job but takes some of the saturation away from the reds.
However, I want to make sure I can getting everything right in camera so I do minimal denoising later.
Currently here is my workflow
Import into DR > add to timeline > color space transform onto node to move from clog3 cinema gamut to rec 709 and cineon for the first phase > second node, add Kodak LUT from the “film looks” luts.
I shoot with a Canon R6 Mark II and record in C-Log3. I’ve tried Canon’s official LUTs and experimented with different color spaces like Rec.709, Rec.2020, and Cinema Gamut.
Most of my footage is of animals such as; deer, bears, dogs, ducks, geese, bobcats, etc. all shot in 4K. These videos are just for fun, and I like to share some of them on Instagram Reels and TikTok.
That said, I’ve been struggling to get a good color grade. The few clips I’ve managed to shoot and grade just feel off, colors look strange or flat, and I can’t seem to get that vibrant, natural look. For those working with Canon C-Log3:
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Do you rely on Canon’s LUTs or use custom ones?
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Do you manually convert to Rec.709 or use a LUT as a base?
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What color space and gamma settings do you find give the best results?
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Any tips for making colors pop in a realistic way?
Would really appreciate any advice or shared experiences. Thanks in advance!
Hi everyone, i'm actually using clog 3 with cinegamut but some friends suggest me to switch in clog "because is better". So where is the truth?
In order of least to most dynamic range is clog, Clog3, clog2.
When Clog3 was added to the R5, I remember tests showing it did unlock more DR of it's sensor.
If the r6 sensor is of similar DR then it too will benefit from Clog 3.
Any log format requires 10bit codec to work well. I assume the R6 forces 10 bit like my R5 does when you enable log?
Log with 8bit could well be worse than rec709. (This is what HLG was made for, 8bit)
Clog3 retains slightly more DR than Clog.
Article is for R5 but basically same thing: https://m.dpreview.com/articles/3873565570/when-you-shoot-log-on-the-canon-eos-r5-shoot-c-log3-here-s-why
Hey team,
I thought I'd get fancy with my Canon R6 Mk II and switched on CLog3 for the first time. (Color space was set to BT.709 from what I can tell)
I'm now trying to color grade this in Premiere Pro and struggling.
I was under the impression the first step was a Basic LUT and I applied the CLog3 to Rec.709 LUT I got straight from Canon.
This gives me overly saturated reds and I'm really struggling to bring this back in and make it look right. (see screenshot: on the left, a shot with Clog off, on the right Clog on and LUT applied)
What am I doing wrong? I'm new to this and would appreciate any help.
Thanks
Hello, I can't seem to find this setting in Canon's camera manual and I don't have a camera to try it on. I'm wondering if I would be able to shoot at 800 ISO but with 3200 ISO set as the base ISO. I've heard the R6 iii has dual native ISO in Clog3 at 800 and 3200, but I'm not sure if you can choose which base to use independently of the ISO you're shooting in.
I'm considering buying the R6 iii and I was watching this youtube video that explains the benefit of choosing the base ISO for dynamic range. Seek to 4:53 to for the explanation.
I'm not sure if this is only a feature available on dedicated cinema cameras.