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Reddit
reddit.com › r/amd › core temp and ryzen master displaying different cpu temps ?
r/Amd on Reddit: Core temp and Ryzen master displaying different CPU temps ?
March 30, 2020 -

Which one is more reliable ? Ryzen 9 3900x with stock cooler Core temp is saying mid 50s to 60s at idle Ryzen master is saying low 50s to mid 50s idle .

Thanks!

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Core Temp
alcpu.com › board index › core temp › bug reports
Ryzen 3700x wrong temperatures shown - ALCPU Forums
August 4, 2019 - Ryzen Master has been specifically ... and the MSI Dragon Center application. Those applications both shows a CPU temperature of ~36 DegC while Core Temp shows ~45 Deg C, and the temperature displayed by Core Temp is more "jumpy"....
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/amd › new ryzen master temperature lower than other monitoring software
r/Amd on Reddit: New Ryzen master temperature lower than other monitoring software
August 1, 2019 -

Hi,

I've a 3900X on a MSI B450I motherboard. Yesterday night I had my fans ramping up and down constantly. I use CAM (little dissapointed by this software but that's another subjet) and had ryzen master and hwinfo open. After a couple minutes of observation I can tell that ryzen master show a temperature in a 5-20° range LOWER than CAM or hwinfo.

CAM and hwinfo are within the same 0-5° range that can be explained by the time the sensor got probed however this cannot be an explanation for ryzen master. It sits for long period of time like 10° lower than any other tool.

So what are you guys seeing ? Is this an MSI bios offset issue or did AMD tweaked their temperature sensor in ryzen master so that it shows lower temps ?

CAM 3.7.8

Ryzen master 2.0.1.1233

HWInfo 6.10

Edit : Info in AMD PDF :

For temperatures:

• OLD BEHAVIOR: Report the highest temp (“instantaneous temperature”) of any sensor in the whole CPU, no matter how isolated or brief. This approach overstated the prevalence and significance of fleeting peaks, which artificially inflated temperature reports by up to 30°C above the true silicon conditions.

• NEW BEHAVIOR: Report a short-duration rolling average of all temp sensors in the chip. This model will give you a holistic view of what the processor is doing across cores, cache, bus interfaces, etc. It’s the closest any software monitoring tool can come to portraying the true thermal conditions of the chip, and it’s the same model our own Precision Boost 2 algorithm uses to make temperature-related boost decisions.

ADDITIONALLY: We also intend to release new developer documentation that enables third-party tools to take the same measurements, so you can continue to rely on your favorite third-party apps after they’re updated. We will be contacting utility vendors directly with more details when the documentation is ready.

Edit : to be clear, exposing a problem and being picky about it does not mean I shit on AMD. The CPU is great and a huge upgrade from my previous one. I just feel they need a new team (or add new ressources if it does already exists) that work on integration at all levels (bios, software, behavior etc) so that we don't get a shitstorm at every launch. We often talk about brand image, those launch pretty much hurt it.

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Tom's Hardware Forum
forums.tomshardware.com › home › cpus
[SOLVED] - cpu temperature different in HWmonitor and Ryzen master | Tom's Hardware Forum
February 23, 2021 - Ryzenmaster reports an 'average' temperature that levels off the thermal effect of the spikes. That's the more accurate thermal condition of the CPU. One utility has both so you can compare them: HWInfo64. It's very useful when you create a graph on the desktop to show how they compare across ...
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Tom's Hardware Forum
forums.tomshardware.com › home › cpus
[SOLVED] - HWinfo CPU temp vs Ryzen Master CPU temp ? | Tom's Hardware Forum
July 22, 2021 - HWINFO the cpu temp in the motherboard sensor area is a sensor placed near the package or outside of CPU, its the external temp of CPU the ones showing under the CPU nodes are the ones internal to CPU - Ryzen cores have up to 500 temp sensors so its always moving I generally see about a 10c ...
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Quora
quora.com › Are-Ryzen-Master-temps-accurate
Are Ryzen Master temps accurate? - Quora
Answer: Depends who you trust. Ryzen Master is currently reporting my CPU at idle clocks (most cores are inactive with 2 at 600MHz) and using about 0.6v with temps of 40c. HWMonitor (a highly regarded monitoring app) is currently reporting all core boost to 4.2GHz, voltage is 1.2v pinned and te...
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HWiNFO
hwinfo.com › home › forums › general › general discussion
Asus Rog B550-e Bios temp vs HWInfo/ryzen master | HWiNFO® Forum
September 12, 2020 - Therefore it's quite normal that they read lower temperatures than the CPU itself reports about its core(s) - this is consistent with reality because the temperature inside the CPU is higher. They may also be much slower to register temperature changes, which can be seen by rapidly changing ...
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Linus Tech Tips
linustechtips.com › computer hardware › cpus, motherboards, and memory
NXZT CAM and Ryzen Master showing different temps? - CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory - Linus Tech Tips
February 9, 2021 - (No, I didn't have them running at the same time). While Ryzen Master shows around 35-40 degrees idle, NZXT CAM reports 50, and even 60 degrees idle. Also, RM shows below 1000mhz clock when the CPU is idle, while NZXT CA...
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Linus Tech Tips
linustechtips.com › computer hardware › cpus, motherboards, and memory
Big cpu temp discrepency between Ryzen Master vs HWMonitor - CPUs, Motherboards, and Memory - Linus Tech Tips
December 16, 2020 - Is this normal where hwmonitor shows 74C while gaming where RM shows around 63C? I know there was something *weird about how temp is reported to mobo but that's about 10C difference.
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Corsair Community
forum.corsair.com › forums › legacy topics › corsair product discussion › icue software
iCUE showing a drastically different temperature to ryzen master (2700x) - iCUE Software - Corsair Community
August 7, 2018 - Im trying to set up fan profiles using my 2 commander pro's, but the cpu temp is way off, by 50c This is making it so i cannot make a fan profile and all 11 of my ML RGB fans are roaring 24/7. I think that the problem is with how the temperature is read with the 2700x https://i.imgur.com/wiHlIgX.png
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ASRock Forums
forum.asrock.com › forum_posts.asp
UEFI-CPU Temp vs. Ryzen Master CPU Temp - ASRock Forums
January 3, 2018 - Hey guys,I'm getting a CONSISTENT reading of 64.5 to 65.5 degrees IDLE, in the UEFI cpu temp reading,...
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H|ard|Forum
hardforum.com › [h]ard|ware › amd processors
AMD Ryzen 5900 - What is most accurate temp monitor? | [H]ard|Forum
April 9, 2021 - I'm a bit confused as after some googling I get some people that say that Ryzen Master is most accurate hands-down because AMD has some proprietary way of reading the sensors (Just repeating what I've read, I have no idea about that and am not making the claim), others say to stay away from Ryzen Master and use HWInfo64. Some swear by HWMonitor and others say its less accurate. So I'm not sure which utility is the most accurate? ... Ryzen Master or HWinfo using "CPU Die (average)" should give the same readings, and are the most accurate for Ryzen CPU's.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/amd › most accurate software to measure temps for 3700x?
r/Amd on Reddit: Most accurate software to measure temps for 3700x?
August 14, 2019 -

I have been trying to figure out the temps on my 3700x but that seems to be quite the task since every software I try gives different readings. I have tried Ryzen Master, HWInfo and HW Monitor. Before I try Speccy I thought I'd ask what software is the most accurate an reading temps.

The problem is that Ryzen Master report idle temps at 35-37, HWINfor says its 30-33 and HWMonitor says its 39-41. It gets even crazier under load. In Battlefield V RM says max temp at around 70-73, HWInfo ended on 65 and HWMonitor went all the way up to 80.

I'd like to think RM is the most accurate considering it comes from AMD but I dont like the software since I cant seem to get a log saying what max temp is and when alt tabbing the temp do change a few degrees so I have no chance to get the correct max temp. On the two others it says Max temp so I do not need to alt tab all the time trying to find where the cpu ends up. I have kind of ruled out HWMonitor since the case fans doesnt go up to 100% when HWMonitor report 80 degrees.

So anyone have any idea which software really is the most accurate?

And are there any way to get a log out of RM?

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/amdhelp › why is ryzen master showing a different temperature than msi afterburner, dragon center and hwinfo?
r/AMDHelp on Reddit: Why is Ryzen Master showing a different temperature than MSI afterburner, Dragon Center and HWiNFO?
April 13, 2021 -

I use a 3600xt and was wandering why my CPU is always running ar 4400MHz ( Afterburner, HDinfo, DragonCenter) so I installed Ryzen master, where the CPU runs at about 1500MHz and the Idle Temperature is different, while Ryzeb Master says its Idle temp is between 37 and 50c, Afterburner, HWinfo and Dragon Center show the temp between 50 and high 60c. Which us the correct answer and which is my CPU cooler using (Mugen 5 black Edition)?

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/techsupport › ryzen master and cpuid hwmonitor reporting different cpu temps
r/techsupport on Reddit: Ryzen Master and CPUID HWMonitor reporting different cpu temps
August 5, 2020 -

https://imgur.com/a/bAoRIRc

Ryzen master consistently reports temps around 10 c lower than hwmonitor. highest temp reported by ryzen master that i've seen is 81, while hwmonitor consistently reports maxes of 90 - all safe temps (safe operating temp is 95) and i havent had any functional issues but i'd like to know whats going on. Are the two apps reading from different sensors? My system has never thermal throttled.

edit: i did some digging and it looks like early ryzens had a 20c offset applied to them in ryzen master which would explain differences there, but mine is a 3600 and the offset is nowhere near 20. also the offset was quickly accounted for in updates for 3rd party monitoring apps

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Argus Monitor Help
help.argusmonitor.com › TemperaturemeasurementforAMDCPUs.html
Temperature measurement for AMD CPUs
There is only one temperature sensor per CPU (not one per core), meaning there are no seperate temperature measurement values available for each CPU core. CPUs before Ryzen: the tempeature sensor does not read real physical CPU temperature, so that there can be a rather large temperature difference between the measured and real CPU temperature -- especially if the CPU is idle. Ryzen: The Ryzen Master software tool interferes with the temperature measurements in Argus Monitor, see below.