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DeepSeek
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DeepSeek
3 weeks ago - DeepSeek, unravel the mystery of AGI with curiosity. Answer the essential question with long-termism.
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DeepSeek
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DeepSeek AI | Leading AI Language Models & Solutions
DeepSeek AI is the leading provider of advanced AI language models and enterprise solutions. Experience state-of-the-art artificial intelligence technology for your business needs.
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DeepSeek, AI and Legal Review
I dont have much to say about your last two points, but 1-3 are pretty off base in a few different ways. Its important to differentiate between Deepseek (the company) and Deepseek V3 (model released on Christmas), and Deepseek R1 (model released Jan 20) While Deepseek is indeed a Chinese company, they released V3 and R1 (and technically R0 but thats not relevant) opensource. Meaning anyone can run, iterate, exmine etc that application. An opensource model like this just categorically cannot do what you are describing. Its maybe better to imagine an Opensource LLM as a really really complex math equation. So complex that unless people tell you specifically what it looks like you could never guess. When they release it, they're simply telling you what the math equation is. It doesn't suddenly do all sorts of new stuff. If you have a big enough computer you can run something like this without internet access. You have to consciously do a lot of work to make changes to a model or continue training it. *Note*: This is different than their chat product, deepseek.chat.com or whatever. That does have the concerns you mention. But this is the same concern with all non-personal services. 2. I also doubt the claim that V3 was trained for 5.5m, I DO believe it was much much cheaper than US firms could do, but likely much more than 5.5m. As for reverse engineering, there isn't really anything to discover. They released some pretty in-depth papers explaining how they made some important efficiencies which contributed to the saved money. But outside of those, its not exactly new information. Also agree that the lasting impact of this is downward price pressure. 3. My earlier point about V3 and R1 is important here. V3 is a standard chat model, that is impressive and nearly SOTA (non-reasoning), but was not quite the bombshell that R1 was. Biggest deal is indeed its Price to Performance, being an Opensourced model (and MoE, but thats beyond the scope of this) it means that the price for this is going to end up basically being the cost of electricity to use. You'll have dozens of providers competing to provide the model as cheaply as possible, in fact you already do. The real bombshell that happened was the release of R1. This is the Deepsek Reasoning model. Similar to O1 from OpenAI. Reasoning models are new classifications of LLMs, you can very generally consider them like regular LLMs but with a lot of work to make them better and problem solving and reasoning. The how of this isn't super important here. Previously OpenAI, and kind of Google, had the only impressive reasoning models. And it was assumed that it was very computationally expensive to create them. Deepseek R1 proved, that atleast for current state of the art performance, its not terribly expensive and certainly not terribly complex to make these style of models. Previously the only reasoning model was O1, which is very expensive. R1 being opensource will again drive pressure down on these types of models. More on reddit.com
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DeepSeek is THE REAL OPEN AI
You can, in Q8 even, using an NVMe SSD for paging and 64GB RAM. 12 seconds per token. Don't misread that as tokens per second... More on reddit.com
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DeepSeek AI is free, but it's literally down 99% of the time.
Don't run it through the DeepSeek app. Run it through a U.S. provider like Perplexity or Kagi. I use Kagi and they provide access to ChatGPT 4o, Claude, Mistral, Gemini Pro, LLama, Qwen, Nova, and DeepSeek. More on reddit.com
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If I'm just a regular Joe and not a company, is Deepseek dangerous?
The word dangerous really depends on what your tolerance for risk is. If you use deepseek via the deepseek API or their front end app, will anything you send to it be stored on a server in China? Yes absolutely. They'll be able to see your input, any information you provided when making an account and maybe some broad stroke details about payment information if you paid anything. This is no different from any AI service provider in any country, but it should be the baseline of understanding when using the services. Companies in China are obligated to provide data to the government if it is requested. Again, something you should at least be cognizant of if you are in any way worried data security. That being said, you can run Deepseek, all variations of the model on your own machine with zero risk to your data, but a massive risk to your wallet because the hardware required to run the full 600B+ parameter version is quite large. In my opinion, personal use for small apps and ideas: Absolutely fine. Entering sensitive company data or personal details: Be cautious. There are also many providers that host deepseek now that aren't in China if being hosted in China is a dealbreaker for you. More on reddit.com
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DeepSeek
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DeepSeek
Chat with DeepSeek AI – your intelligent assistant for coding, content creation, file reading, and more. Upload documents, engage in long-context conversations, and get expert help in AI, natural language processing, and beyond. | 深度求索(DeepSeek)助力编程代码开发、创意写作、文件处理等任务,支持文件上传及长文本对话,随时为您提供高效的AI支持。
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GitHub
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DeepSeek · GitHub
September 30, 2025 - deepseek-ai/FlashMLA’s past year of commit activity · C++ 11,919 MIT 918 53 6 Updated · Dec 15, 2025 · 3FS Public · A high-performance distributed file system designed to address the challenges of AI training and inference workloads. ...

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Hangzhou DeepSeek Artificial Intelligence Basic Technology Research Co., Ltd., doing business as DeepSeek, is a Chinese artificial intelligence (AI) company that develops large language models (LLMs). Based in Hangzhou, Zhejiang, DeepSeek is … Wikipedia
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Native name 杭州深度求索人工智能基础技术研究有限公司
Company type Private
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Native name 杭州深度求索人工智能基础技术研究有限公司
Company type Private
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Wikipedia
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DeepSeek - Wikipedia
2 days ago - Hangzhou DeepSeek Artificial Intelligence Basic Technology Research Co., Ltd., doing business as DeepSeek, is a Chinese artificial intelligence (AI) company that develops large language models (LLMs). Based in Hangzhou, Zhejiang, DeepSeek is owned and funded by the Chinese hedge fund High-Flyer.
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Hugging Face
huggingface.co › deepseek-ai › DeepSeek-V3.1
deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3.1 · Hugging Face
3 weeks ago - DeepSeek-V3.1 is a hybrid model that supports both thinking mode and non-thinking mode.
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Crypto News
crypto.news › home › top cryptocurrency news today › deepseek ai projects price scenarios for xrp, solana, dogecoin
DeepSeek AI projects price scenarios: XRP, Solana, Dogecoin
6 days ago - Chinese artificial intelligence platform DeepSeek has released price projections for three major cryptocurrencies through the end of 2025, forecasting heightened volatility for Ripple’s XRP token, Solana, and Dogecoin.
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CryptoNews.com
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DeepSeek AI Predicts XRP, Solana, Dogecoin Price by 2025
1 week ago - China’s leading AI, often called a ChatGPT killer, DeepSeek, has released surprising December projections for XRP, Solana, and Dogecoin, warning traders that all three could see heightened volatility throughout the month.
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App Store
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DeepSeek - AI Assistant App - App Store
Experience seamless interaction with DeepSeek's official AI assistant for free! Powered by DeepSeek’s latest flagship model, it delivers faster responses and more powerful features to help you solve problems and live more efficiently.
Rating: 4 ​ - ​ 9.33K votes
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Georgia State News Hub
news.gsu.edu › how deepseek is changing the ai landscape
How Deepseek is Changing the AI Landscape - Georgia State University News - Press Releases, Robinson College of Business -
June 18, 2025 - On Monday January 27, a little ... stock market with the launch of their generative artificial intelligence(AI) model that rivals the models of tech giants like OpenAI, Meta and Google....
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Nature
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The Chinese finance whizz whose DeepSeek AI model stunned the world
2 weeks ago - In January this year, an announcement from China rocked the world of artificial intelligence. The firm DeepSeek released its powerful but cheap R1 model out of the blue — instantly demonstrating that the United States was not as far ahead in AI as many experts had thought.
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CNN
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What is DeepSeek, the Chinese AI startup that shook the tech world? | CNN Business
January 27, 2025 - The new AI model was developed by DeepSeek, a startup that was born just a year ago and has somehow managed a breakthrough that famed tech investor Marc Andreessen has called “AI’s Sputnik moment”: R1 can nearly match the capabilities of its far more famous rivals, including OpenAI’s GPT-4, Meta’s Llama and Google’s Gemini — but at a fraction of the cost.
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DeepSeek
deepseek.net
DeepSeek - AI Assistant & V3 Chat
DeepSeek is a Chinese company specializing in artificial intelligence, particularly in natural language processing (NLP) and large language models (LLMs). It develops advanced AI technologies for applications like conversational AI, content ...
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GitHub
github.com › deepseek-ai › DeepSeek-V3
GitHub - deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V3
We present DeepSeek-V3, a strong Mixture-of-Experts (MoE) language model with 671B total parameters with 37B activated for each token. To achieve efficient inference and cost-effective training, DeepSeek-V3 adopts Multi-head Latent Attention (MLA) and DeepSeekMoE architectures, which were thoroughly validated in DeepSeek-V2.
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DeepSeek Coder
deepseekcoder.github.io
DeepSeek Coder
DeepSeek Coder comprises a series of code language models trained from scratch on both 87% code and 13% natural language in English and Chinese, with each model pre-trained on 2T tokens. We provide various sizes of the code model, ranging from 1B to 33B versions.
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Reddit
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r/ediscovery on Reddit: DeepSeek, AI and Legal Review
January 27, 2025 -

There is a LOT of talk this morning about DeepSeek, and how it is shaking up the AI industry. This has huge ramifications not just in the AI market, but downstream in applications where they are using AI, like the growing e-Discovery market. Without getting too far into it, here are the five immediate things that I see regarding DeepSeek:

  1. Security issues galore. Aside from the fact it is a Chinese created product (and we just went through and are still going through the TikTok security issues/sale/divestiture), it's open source meaning developers can use it for their own underlying AI functions in their own tools. Developers can also include things that make use of it less secure, like save your information for use in future modeling or even analyze the questions you ask of it. There is also an input/output problem where DeepSeek continues to learn and evolve based on what users collectively put into it. These items alone should give lawyers pause for using it in a legal setting currently. I would not trust it at all for use in e-Discovery yet.

  2. Reverse engineering. If the Chinese government is to be believed, it costs substantially less to create and uses considerably less power than the standard AIs being created by Silicon Valley. If this is true (I have my doubts for several reasons) then the market just got turned on it's head. You can bet that Meta, OpenAI, Nvidia and others are reverse engineering this product to see how they can simulate the same power use and costs. It will be no time at all before the same results are integrated into the proprietary AIs currently available, and we see reductions in the costs to use THEIR products. Competition is a great thing sometimes.

  3. From what I've read this morning, the outputs are about as good as Open AI's current 4o-mini. That's good but not great, but exceptional for the anticipated costs and most use cases. This level of competition could lower the costs of e-Discovery substantially further once the results are assimilated into more secure models. That means really cheap AI reviews, there is genuinely no way human reviewers will be able to compete in cost and quality. We're getting to the point where the costs of a human review offshored to INDIA will be more expensive than AI review.

  4. What humans will be able to do is run and engineer AI searches/prompts. As AI review becomes the industry norm, what you'll see is Review Managers becoming savvier at prompt engineering, and a much smaller set of reviewers reviewing samples of the results. Validations and testing are going to be crucial, and there will always be a need for reviewers on privilege and sensitive materials (PII, PHI) reviews. With costs coming down substantially, the ability to run multiple versions of prompts across larger sets just became much more feasible as well.

  5. Platforms with AI models already integrated (Relativity's aiR, ediscovery AI, Reveal, etc.) are out way ahead of everyone else in this. Revenue models for the industry are going to change dramatically to per doc pricing and flat fees over hourly billing. That changes the law firm dynamic more than most people think. Firms that are tech savvy at reducing the overall hosting and data costs are going to benefit in huge ways. That means they cull better using Early Case Assessment (the old Clearwell approach) and move over to review databases only that which absolutely needs review. Any way to reduce hosting and review costs are going to be net benefits and areas to maintain revenue.

Get ready. It's going to be a wild ride.

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I dont have much to say about your last two points, but 1-3 are pretty off base in a few different ways. Its important to differentiate between Deepseek (the company) and Deepseek V3 (model released on Christmas), and Deepseek R1 (model released Jan 20) While Deepseek is indeed a Chinese company, they released V3 and R1 (and technically R0 but thats not relevant) opensource. Meaning anyone can run, iterate, exmine etc that application. An opensource model like this just categorically cannot do what you are describing. Its maybe better to imagine an Opensource LLM as a really really complex math equation. So complex that unless people tell you specifically what it looks like you could never guess. When they release it, they're simply telling you what the math equation is. It doesn't suddenly do all sorts of new stuff. If you have a big enough computer you can run something like this without internet access. You have to consciously do a lot of work to make changes to a model or continue training it. *Note*: This is different than their chat product, deepseek.chat.com or whatever. That does have the concerns you mention. But this is the same concern with all non-personal services. 2. I also doubt the claim that V3 was trained for 5.5m, I DO believe it was much much cheaper than US firms could do, but likely much more than 5.5m. As for reverse engineering, there isn't really anything to discover. They released some pretty in-depth papers explaining how they made some important efficiencies which contributed to the saved money. But outside of those, its not exactly new information. Also agree that the lasting impact of this is downward price pressure. 3. My earlier point about V3 and R1 is important here. V3 is a standard chat model, that is impressive and nearly SOTA (non-reasoning), but was not quite the bombshell that R1 was. Biggest deal is indeed its Price to Performance, being an Opensourced model (and MoE, but thats beyond the scope of this) it means that the price for this is going to end up basically being the cost of electricity to use. You'll have dozens of providers competing to provide the model as cheaply as possible, in fact you already do. The real bombshell that happened was the release of R1. This is the Deepsek Reasoning model. Similar to O1 from OpenAI. Reasoning models are new classifications of LLMs, you can very generally consider them like regular LLMs but with a lot of work to make them better and problem solving and reasoning. The how of this isn't super important here. Previously OpenAI, and kind of Google, had the only impressive reasoning models. And it was assumed that it was very computationally expensive to create them. Deepseek R1 proved, that atleast for current state of the art performance, its not terribly expensive and certainly not terribly complex to make these style of models. Previously the only reasoning model was O1, which is very expensive. R1 being opensource will again drive pressure down on these types of models.
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There are zero security issues. It is an open source local model and it is performing on par with O1-preview not 4o-mini.
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Hugging Face
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deepseek-ai (DeepSeek)
2 weeks ago - DeepSeek (深度求索), founded in 2023, is a Chinese company dedicated to making AGI a reality.
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DeepSeek
api-docs.deepseek.com › your first api call
Your First API Call | DeepSeek API Docs
* To be compatible with OpenAI, you can also use https://api.deepseek.com/v1 as the base_url.
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Google Play
play.google.com › store › apps › details
DeepSeek - AI Assistant - Apps on Google Play
Experience seamless interaction with DeepSeek's official AI assistant for free! Powered by DeepSeek’s latest flagship model, it delivers faster responses and more powerful features to help you solve problems and live more efficiently.
Rating: 4.2 ​ - ​ 231K votes
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NIST
nist.gov › news-events › news › 2025 › 09 › caisi-evaluation-deepseek-ai-models-finds-shortcomings-and-risks
CAISI Evaluation of DeepSeek AI Models Finds Shortcomings and Risks | NIST
September 30, 2025 - The Center for AI Standards and Innovation at NIST evaluated several leading models from DeepSeek, an AI company based in the People’s Republic of China