Discussion topic about Disney
focus on quality over quantity regarding marvel studios and Disney classics + Avatar and Avengers effects incoming
dynamic on trading card games and mobile games
no clear view on leisure parcs
no idea about toys
Will 2026 be the comeback of this value stock ?
I bought Disney shares in 2023 at $85 and this year at $88. Now they are at $111, so I have a 25% or so margin of safety.
The main concerns for Disney that have brought down its shares from $197 in March 2021 have been:
A) the massive debt undertaken for the Fox deal
B) billions in losses on streaming (streaming is now turning a profit, albeit a skeletal one)
C) declining linear television assets (still a major problem, 22% drop in revenue quarter ending May)
D) box office failures (though much less of an issue this year)
However, Disney is still a stock that even after the largest upswing is only at peak 2015 levels. And some of their decisions seem puzzling, at least on the face of it, like the $60 billion investment in expanding theme parks and the cruise line. Can the most popular theme parks in the world really drive a sufficient number of extra guests to make a return on the investment. Not to mention the fact that Disney World is already the size of a major city, so it's not like it is morbidly short of space.
Disney also seems to be rather short of creative oxygen, with its only successes in recent years coming from spin offs of existing properties and franchises. Their attempts at original storymaking, like with Wish and Strange World, performed miserably. The ceaseless live action remakes are symptomatic of this. Marvel also to me to be running of ideas, and seems overstuffed (although Iger had said he will cut down on the value of Marvel content produced).
On the other hand, Disney's revenue is now at an all time high, even though operating income is still depressed.
Our family just got back from Disneyland and I observed how crowded it was even though it was an off season. Meaning, they’re still profitable consistently regardless.
They have strong and consistent financials based on their PE, ROE and DOE ratios. Plus, their FCF is positive. Having said that, their stock is -10% in the past 5 years.
Currently, it’s at $112/share. Do you think it’s time to buy right now?
Since the parks reopened after COVID, my family and I have gone to Disney in early December for the past four years (we've settled on going at Christmas back in the mid 2010's.)
However, we've decided to take next year off given that it's likely to be constructionville/refurbishment rama until late 2026-27 and it won't be as much fun with all of that.
Anyone else doing the same?
Some months ago one trader said Disney has good fundamentals, but he didn't say about the core. Film after film failed and the infamous break of Depp contract makes me think there's no adequate management. Disney has a bad reputation also for killing Star Wars franchise.
My personal opinion is that if Hulu wasn’t integrated into the app I’d barely use Disney plus
There just isn’t enough new content coming out from the Disney side to really justify the subscription without adding Hulu onto it
So i was thinking about buying disney pls and i wanted to ask you about the quality of it, is it worth it for a person who isnt interested in the kid shows that much but rather star wars and things similar to that
i will also take recommendations for some nice movies/serials
Disney has had a pretty rough start this year. Snow White and Captain America: Brave New World bombed commercially and critically, which served as a sign that there's going to be a rough way ahead for the company. Thunderbolts was released to strong critical reception but flopped commercially. Soon after, the live-action remake of Lilo and Stitch dropped, and needless to say, it became the biggest Hollywood movie so far. It is the first "American" movie to gross $1bn at the worldwide box office and the first Disney live-action remake to do so since 2019's The Lion King. For a while, things looked quite good. Then unexpectedly, First Steps despite receiving positive reviews, struggled to make a profit at the box office owing in part to competition from Superman. Another failure for Disney, but is that the end for the company? Now this is where things get intriguing and suspenseful.
Disney's lineups for the rest of the year are, without any surprise, consist of sequels. We have Freakier Friday which debuted yesterday at the cinema to generally positive reviews from both critics and audiences. If word-of-mouth is extremely positive, added with the sense of nostalgia, the film should be able to settle with $150-$200 million. Predator: Badlands (a standalone Prey film) and Tron: Ares (a standalone sequel to 2010's Tron: Legacy) are more difficult to predict. Tron: Legacy was met with mixed reception and made over $300 million at the box office. If Ares is received well by critics and audiences and has good marketing, maybe it could become a hit. Last but not least, we have Zootopia 2 and Avatar: Fire and Ash, the two likely candidates to earn $1bn worldwide. If the record is anything to go by, Zootopia 2 will follow in the footsteps of Inside Out 2 and Moana 2 to surpass its predecessor's box office earnings. The success of Way of Water has proven that audiences worldwide will never get tired of seeing another Avatar film. A box-office achievement of $1.5-$2bn is totally possible. I won't be surprised if only movies produced by Disney gross 1bn this year.
Remember when Star Wars hit the movies. The Disney stock had a nice lil run. Same in 2019 when Avengers Endgame and Lion King came out. It wasn't just the movies killing it but the whole Disney machine was money printing. Parks packed, Merch everywhere and streaming just came out.
Looking at next year honestly feels similar. We're getting Avatar 3, Toy Story 5, Zootopia and new Starwars.
maybe you dont like the milking out of the same franchises but it prints.
those cultural moments will spill over in the parks, cruises, subs, merch... The marketing team will make sure of that.
Parks are record breaking, cruises are fully booked and streaming is finally profitable since Q3 2025 (yeah it took them this long lol). If a couple of films create the same buzz as in previous years, we will see the jump in the stock prize.
plus p/e is looking good atm,way below historical average.
when comparing, I def see the market wakes up quick once the first hit lands.
I know it's not a growth company doing AI-overlord stuff and they def sturred the woke-soap for too long. Yet I think it's a good company which ol' warren would like.
Not sure how this sub feels about it but very interested in what u guys think.
not financial advice bla bla bla, just rambling based on something I noticed while pretending to work.
With Disney canceling Kimmel, is anyone concerned that Disney will be the next target?
I’ve been deleted in every other forum. Howling this sticks bc I’m thinking that Disney will be the new Target?
I canceled today and several others that I know have as well.
This, coming from an AVID marvel and Star Wars fan.
Can someone help me understand why Netflix (market capitalization of $381B) is worth more than Disney (market cap $202B)? They both have streaming services but Disney also has its theme parks, hotels, cruise ships, all of its media groups (espn, abc, fox, Pixar, Nat geo, fx), all of its franchises (Marvel studios, Lucasfilm), all the merchandise it sells and a bunch of other stuff I’m missing. What makes Netflix with its 13k employees more valuable than Disney with its 225k employees. I never understood why so please help me understand. Tia.
Considering the pulling Jimmy Kimmel, ABC has been getting a lot of lashback with respect to 'spineless' Trump follower, etc, so I was thinking that selling Disney stock is probably a safe bet for now. Even saw bunch of Democrats cancel there Disney + subscription cause of that.
It will probably take a few weeks to take effect, though.
Thoughts?
Over the past month, Disney's stock has increased over 20% and reaching a new all-time high. Obviously, we've had plenty of vaccine news, but my question is who are the buyers here? Are retail investors piling in supposing on a 2021 recovery, or is someone sneakily eyeing a total buyout? Is there any merit to the buyout theory?
Recently bought shares a little bit before their last earnings report on hopes Bob Iger could continue to turn the company into a profitable behemoth again, and looking to diversify out of high multiple tech stocks
The numbers turned out great on that report - they had beat EPS by over 20% (beat revenue by a hair) and reaffirmed the strong guidance given in the previous quarter. Disney+ has now been profitable for 3 quarters in a row after bleeding money. Parks and cruises are doing great - this quarter even had hurricanes shuttering business and still did had beats across the board
Trading after the call surged up 5% to $118 and some change, then had a brutal reversal midday; it now finds itself at $108 and some change and is just dripping downwards every day
I’m a little confused on this one - since the report, it’s done nothing but receive upgrades, upwards price target revisions (JP Morgan, GS, Morgan Stanley, and a bunch of others all in $130-140 range now), and upwards earnings revisions. And it’s done nothing but go down.
The only thing I have seen is that Disney+ lost subscribers - but it was forecast, and beat anyways. They had hiked prices and the forecast was to lose 1.5M subscribers and came in at losing half that. Plus, Disney+ is just one of their streaming services - they actually gained overall because Hulu came in strong. Not to mention streaming is one component in Disney’s earnings
I also saw that Cramer has been pounding the table on the stock. Maybe that’s the reason (joking)
Thoughts? Is this just a dead stock? I don’t believe that past performance dictates future returns, but it’s done nothing for 10 years besides the covid mania
I personally don’t think Disney+ deserves the hype or market cap increase that it has received. After finishing the Mandalorian, I didn’t see a reason to keep my subscription.
On the other hand, my wife and I are planning a Disney World vacation that will cost several thousands of dollars (or effectively decades worth of Disney+).
Obviously this company has numerous revenue streams and looks fairly stable, but it’s still a hard pill to swallow buying today, when just a few months ago I could’ve bought in for a ~25% discount. Any advice?
Disney is a bargain right now. You're not seeing the big picture. Yes The Mandalorian was the only new content of value at launch. This was strategic. Western Europe launch of Disney Plus isn't until 3/31/20. Disney wasn't going to release a whole bunch of new shows for only 20% of their would be audience.
They will have some down quarters this year as repeating a $12B box office year is impossible (and the movie schedule is not strong this year).
However, it's a bargain now. Netflix is losing content by the day. Disney wil come out the market leader in the next 5-10 years for streaming.
Also, next year is Walt Disney World's 50th anniversary. There are a LOT of new rides opening. Expect parks revenue to go up 20-25% next year.
the whole market is inflated right now but there’s going to be more upside. i would say it’s not the worst to buy dis right now. people are still buying msft so it could be worse
With all the Kimmel shenanigans and people deleting their subscriptions then bringing Kimmel back which I believe just pisses off the other side and then they will delete their subscriptions.
I think Disney is gonna go down at least 5% over the next few months. What do y'all think?
U.S. entertainment giant Walt Disney (DIS) has reported its financial results for the second quarter of 2025.
Market Cap: $212.71B
Exchange: NYSE 🇺🇸
Earnings per Share (EPS): Expected: 1.45 | Actual: 1.61 🔼
Revenue: Expected: $23.7B | Actual: $23.65B 🔽
Disney exceeded earnings expectations with a stronger-than-anticipated EPS but slightly missed revenue forecasts.
Analysts view the quarter positively overall, highlighting effective cost control and solid performance in the streaming segment.