I’m looking to purchase a new telephone and after doing some light research I found these three options that I can easily travel with but I’m unsure which would be best for where I live/best quality overall

I live in the desert far out from the city and other people so light pollution is relatively low. If you have any knowledge on these three and could help me out that would be great! Or if you have any recommendations for other telescopes I’m open to hearing them! Thanks

Although I have a plan to buy the Seestar S30 Pro when it was released, DwarfLab 3 suddenly came to my mind,

and I don't know which option is better.

Dwarf 3 Or Seestar s30 pro ?

So which option do you recommend I choose?

I talking as someone who wants to buy a smart telescope.

I want to buy a small smart telescope. I’m torn between the Dwarf 3 and the Seestar 30s Pro. The price difference between them isn’t a deciding factor for me.

The Dwarf 3 has slightly better aperture (f/3.5 vs f/3.0), however it has smaller pixels (IMX678).
The Seestar has a better sensor (IMX585) but a worse f-ratio.

The Seestar has a larger field of view, but wouldn’t that make the resolution per pixel worse than with the Dwarf?
(Sure, with the Dwarf you need to shoot Andromeda in mosaic mode, but everything else fits into the Dwarf’s field of view.)

In some reviews I read that the Dwarf allows more manual settings, but it’s not entirely clear to me what that means. In the end, it seems like everyone does stacking in some external software anyway.

So, please: which one would you choose and why? (The goal is, of course, the best possible results—the best possible photos—even with the assumption that I’ll stack them manually in external software.)

I’m looking to buy a smart telescope and I’ve narrowed it down to the Seestar S30 and the DWARF 3. I’ve watched a lot of comparison videos, but they were pretty inconclusive. If anyone has used both, I’d appreciate your opinion.

Also, both advertise daytime photography, but the DWARF seems more focused on it. Does the Seestar compare?

And can either of them take Milky Way images?

Zaglądam tu, bo chcę po prostu zacząć przygodę z astrofotografią. Mam doświadczenie z łączeniem zdjęć w innych ustawieniach, więc chciałbym wyciągać zdjęcia do łączenia w innym oprogramowaniu. Chciałbym skonfigurować i używać w trybie Eq, żeby wydłużać czas naświetlania. Mam już całkiem niezły statyw fotograficzny. Jestem w obszarze Bortle 7-8. Pole 30 mm jest dla mnie odpowiednie na początek. Mogę używać szerokiego pola do zdjęć Drogi Mlecznej, ale nie jestem pewien co do trybu śledzenia gwiazd, który ma S30 pro.

Co myślicie o Dwarf 3 kontra S30 pro? Dużo porównań z S50, ale teraz ogniskowe są w zasadzie takie same. Czy nieco większa apertura w Dwarf robi różnicę? Czy jest znacząca różnica w sensorach? Wygląda na to, że oprogramowanie Seestar może być "ładniejsze", ale oba są funkcjonalne.

Może więcej osób musi wziąć do ręki S30 pro, żeby można było porównać. Prawdopodobnie nie można się pomylić z żadnym z nich jako punktem wyjścia.

Hello!

Over the past few weeks I’ve been going through the options of getting a digital telescope, due to being limited with portability and price, I’ve come down to the option between the dwarf 3 and the zwo seestar s30. I’ve heard great things about both of them but I don’t know which is actually better in practice. The 200€ gap between the two isn’t really a problem, but I do want to know that I’m getting the best possible option between the two.

Thanks to anyone reading and a great day to you all!

Both telescopes would cost me about the same amount.

Dwarf 3 pros:

• Apparently better software.

• Larger aperture.

• Also good as a daylight robotic camera.

• Tighter FOV (also a negative?)

S30 Pro pros:

• Better sensor.

• Wider FOV (also a negative?)

• Better wide camera for star trails.

• Software is available on macOS via iPad version.

• Can be used with third party software?

I'm not sure which to choose. Hardware wise, I think I prefer the better sensor and wider FOV of the S30 Pro, but I feel apprehensive about the software for some reason. I think the reviews I've watched made it seem like Dwarflabs makes better software. But then again, the Seestar app does work on macOS which would be more convenient to use than solely relying on my phone. And I think the Seestar can be used with third party software.

I'm sure I would be happy with either, but please help me decide!

Dying to get into astrophotography and been researching S50 vs S30 Pro vs Dwarf 3. I now see s50 is out of stock and discontinued? For first rig do we recommend s30 pro or dwarf 3? Or wait for something new? I have access to pretty dark skies and am 2 hours from Joshua tree / Anza. Dwarf 3 is attractive because it’s available on Amazon. Any help is greatly appreciated!

My friends had been asking me to test a Dwarf scope for quite some time, as I've been using the Seestar S50 and then the S30 for the last couple of years. I let the camera roll while I was testing it, and cut it down to the attached short (posted here). Some of the challenges, mainly stemming from coming off the SeeStar, was the interface. There were several instances where I wanted a window to go away, and I'd tap at various places on the screen, and nothing would happen. It also "thinks" or processes at strange times, without explanation. The other interesting thing I noticed is that it seems to reset to the default imaging settings, I guess when changing targets? I set up custom settings, (mainly gain 100 and 30 seconds exps for EQ mode), it asked me to take darks which I did, but when I started capturing images, it was doing so with 15 sec exps with a gain of 60. It worked out okay (the image was not bad considering the clouds rolled in). Can't wait to do more testing! I'll try to post some more test runs on the LearnToStargaze YouTube channel.

Let me start by saying I have spent hours reading every comparison out there and watching all good comparison videos on YouTube and I still cannot make my decision. I also have read the existing threads on here so I apologise if this seems repetitive but they didn’t seem to answer my specific questions, so here goes…

I know it’s a personal thing. Wider FOV and slightly less detail (Dwarf) vs smaller FOV and more detail(S50). Which is further complicated by the fact S50 now has mosaic mode and EQ mode - making them even more similar (although I don’t know how well the mosaic works with regards to noise on S50)

Stellar Studio which allows onboard post processing on the Dwarf is a pretty solid selling point for me- as I don’t foresee me spending an awful lot of time post processing on anything else (Siril, Pixinsight etc) I’ve googled and couldn’t find much on what onboard post processing the SeeStar offers if any? (Please advise if anyone knows?)

All of these ramblings boil down to one main question really. If you have had experience with both, which one would you choose if you could only afford one and your main goal was DSO photography? Any advice appreciated.

Hello!! I’m a high schooler just starting to get into astronomy and astro photography. I believe I want to do something in the field when i’m older and want to start learning more. I’m looking to purchase a relatively affordable but nice telescope. I was looking at the ZWO Seestars but had no clue whether to pick the s50 or s30. Or would a completely different brand or telescope be better?

basically what the title says. which one is better for taking pictures of deep sky objects (specifically galaxies) Im looking at getting a smart telescope before I jump into the more expensive side of astrophotography and get a full blown rig.

My only dislike between the two is the fact that the Seestar has the wierd FOV that reminds me of a phone screen. otherwise any suggestions would be amazing.

Edit: I know the dwarf 3 is also very new, so some comparisons could be made to the dwarf ii

I'm a novice to astrophotography and I've stumbled across the Dwarf and Seestar telescopes and I'm curious which one seems like a better buy? I own an Orion Starblast 4.5 dobsonian but there are a lot of limitations to this telescope, mainly that I live in a very light polluted area, it's not easy to transport, and has manual tracking. I have some physical limitations so having a portable scope to take pictures of deep sky objects with very little equipment is appealing to me. I've heard a lot of good things about the Seestar telescope, but the Dwarf 3 appears to have a tracking feature but is slightly more expensive. Any thoughts on this?