Just spotted this on the UK website. Wonder why they gave the V10 a new model after so long. They've reintroduced the V12 Submarine too which is nice.

As you know, the V15s can’t officially be retrofitted to a standard V15.

Let me rephrase it better: a 799€ vacuum cannot use a 150€ accessory that is fitted to the very same vacuum with an S at the end and with the same price and functionality.

This due to two options, and whatever the answer, they’re both awful for customers and for a company like Dyson:

• they don’t want to

• they can’t due to a FW update issue

Now the first one, although understandable, is a complete lack of respect towards customers. We’re talking people that invested good money on what is supposed to be the best product on the market and I give them credit for that, is a great product, but being screwed over like this is something I wouldn’t expect to be honest. Especially because I, like many other people, would have been interested in purchasing that accessory, even with a higher price. But being cut out like this, with the very same model? That is not how you do it. They could have opted for an adapter if they really wanted to, is not like it’s magic or something, where there is a will there is a way and yet they didn’t.

Let’s move to the second option, which isn’t better. This means a fundamental lack of foresight/planned obsolescence. Again, on a 799€ model which was supposed to be the top of the line not that long ago. The V15 is not even 3 years old and Bluetooth, USB and Wi-Fi weren’t exactly new in 2021.

As a customer, I’m disappointed and pissed about this situation because I genuinely feel like I’ve been scammed. Don’t get me wrong, I love the product and what it does, but I don’t like the fact that the very same product can do other stuff that mine can’t just because one of those reasons I mentioned above. In general, I prefer to buy good products, top of the line precisely because of that, precisely because I don’t want to be cut off for upgrades, and I want support. I got none of it.

I wouldn’t had any issue whatsoever if they had this feature on a different model, like a hypothetical V16 or something, it would have been annoying for sure, but I would have understood that from a company perspective, but not like this.

There’s still time, admitting to be wrong and going back on their steps would be highly appreciated by their customers.

Does anybody know if this will work for the Dyson Outsize+ vacuum? I would probably need attachments to make it work.

I'd like a submarine but have a less than 1yo v11 that I love.

So there are ways to make a submarine work on an older model I guess:

• get a spare wand and drill a hole through it and run the vacuum on low. Extra noise and battery life is the problem, but it must work.
  Did someone try that?

• figure out a way to turn off the vacuum motor while still allowing power to run to the submarine head.
  Someone with knowledge of the vacuum circuit knows if there's a cable that can be jumped with a switch or something like that?

• Get a used/broken body that doesn't suck anymore but still powers the head and use that. I'm gonna look on my local craigslist to see if there's one around.

Let me know if you guys have experimented with any of those ideas.
Thanks!