The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad. Answer from YardEnvironmental127 on reddit.com
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1 day ago - Elphaba suspects that the Scarecrow is her lover Fiyero coming back to her in a disguise; to investigate further, she has her flying monkeys tear the straw out of the Scarecrow's clothing.
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What Happened to Elphaba & Fiyero at the End of Wicked: For Good? (EXPLAINED)
In a faithful nod to the original Wicked musical, Elphaba and Fiyero (aka the Scarecrow) leave Oz together at the end of Wicked: For Good, their destination remaining unknown to viewers.
Published November 21, 2025
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r/wicked on Reddit: (Book) Why did Elphie think Fiyero was The Scarecrow?
January 20, 2025 -
So Fiyero in the musical does in fact end up being The Scarecrow. But what led to Elphie thinking he was The Scarecrow in the book? Maybe I'm missing something, but the line of reasoning seemed to come out of nowhere. I've yet to read the sequels.
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The sheer ridiculousness of it shows where Elphaba is at by that point in the novel. Really sad.
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It's a combination of things, really. It's not so much one thing as it is the culmination of everything she's suffered in the years since his death. As mentioned below, Elphaba experimented with the Wizard's elixir to dream about the other world like Nanny said her mother did. After experiencing nightmares from it, though, she slowly stopped sleeping entirely to avoid them. She's always been a conspiracy theorist, but in the years following Dr. Dillamond's and Ama Clutch's deaths, she slowly went off the deep end and began developing paranoia. After seeing the scarecrow talismans after she came to visit Munchkinland again, she began to develop a suspicion around scarecrows in general. Elphie's later years were later spent trying and failing to atone for her affair with Fiyero (first with the Maunts, and later on with Sarima in Kiamo Ko) as her involvement with him is what led to his death. Despite becoming friends with his widow and making Kiamo Ko her home, because Sarima essentially forbade her from confessing what she had done, Elphie spent those years being tormented by guilt and a lack of closure. This, of course, never got resolved for her because Sarima, her sisters, and two of her children ended up dead and his only daughter was taken as a hostage by the Wizard and enslaved. After being haunted by her guilt for well over a decade at this point, she sprung at the chance to make up a sleep-deprivation fantasy about him being alive and well - because she wouldn't need to gain forgiveness if she didn't cause his death in the first place. Liir mentioned right before Dorothy's arrival that his heart's desire was to have a father, which Elphie believes was Fiyero because at this point she is more or less convinced that she was his biological mother. For all her abrasiveness in her later years, Elphie does love Liir, knows how much he longs for a paternal figure, and envisioned Fiyero as the Scarecrow in part because she badly wanted to give him the father he never had. At this point in her life, Elphaba's just... lonely, man. She's lost almost everyone she's ever loved, through either death or perceived betrayal. Dr. Dillamond's Nessa's dead, Sarima's dead, her father's never going to love her like he loved Nessa and the shoes that represented his love have been taken by some random child, Glinda gave said child the shoes even though she knew Elphaba was hurt by them decades ago, and Boq was afraid of her after Madame Morrible. She still had Nanny and Liir, yes, but they didn't understand her like those others did. They see her at her worst, her most crotchety, while knowing nothing of what she's been through. And yes, while she does have her familiars, they can't talk with her, no matter how much she tried to teach them. At the height of her mania, she simply wanted to not be alone anymore. In short, sad reasons. Many, many sad reasons.
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'Wicked: For Good': How the Scarecrow and Tin Man Got Final Looks
November 23, 2025 - “For Good” doesn’t just continue ... Man, The Cowardly Lion and The Scarecrow. Fiyero (Jonathan Bailey), who is in a love triangle with Elphaba and Glinda, becomes the Scarecrow, while Boq (Ethan Slater), a Munchkin, transforms ...
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'Wicked: For Good' director reveals secret note Fiyero sent Elphaba that explains surprise ending
November 21, 2025 - But that's all for show. The film concludes with Fiyero opening a trap door in the castle and revealing Elphaba is alive and well. "Fiyero?" Elphaba seems to ask as she looks upon him in Scarecrow form for the first time since she transformed the Winkie prince to save his life.
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r/wicked on Reddit: Something I want to know about the Scarecrow and Elphaba during Wicked and The Wizard of Oz
December 1, 2024 -
So in Wicked, we know that Elphaba puts a spell on Fyiero so he wouldn't get hurt, making Fyiero turn into the Scarecrow.
While in The Wizard of Oz, Elphaba is literally seen by trying to harm Scarecrow.
And at the end of Wicked, Scarecrow/Fyiero finds Elphaba and they leave Oz together.
This lead me to to 2 things:
Elphaba knows that Scarecrow is Fyiero, and trys to harm him just to see if her spell actually worked. And Scarecrow is scared of Elphaba/ doesn't who Elphaba is, due to not having any brains. So when Scarecrow has his brains back, he remembers Elphaba, and they run away together.
Elphaba knows that Scarecrow is Fyiero this time, but Scarecrow knows who's Elphaba all this time, and tricks everyone into believing that they don't know each other (but they do, and run away together)
So that's my thoughts on Scarecrow and Elphaba during TWoO. But I think number 1 makes more sense.
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Alternatively: What we know of as “The Wizard of Oz” (movie) is basically a propaganda piece based on the story(s) told by the Wizard/Morrible (and not “corrected” by Glinda, at Elphaba’s request). So while the overall story is “accurate”, we can’t necessarily trust the specific details.
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Elphaba doesn't know that Fiyero is alive until the flying monkeys bring her his note in act 2.
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Wait, Who is the Scarecrow in ‘Wicked: For Good’
November 24, 2025 - Likely, he's the one that came up with her plan to use the bucket of water to fake Elphaba's death. In the end, Fiyero, now as the Scarecrow, knocks on the hidden cellar door that Elphaba has been hiding in and the two head away from Oz, finally at peace and together, and using the belief that they are both dead and gone to their advantage to start a new life with one another.
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August 9, 2024 - In the wicked universe, most fans ... that the scarecrow (fiyero) teams up with dorothy to defeat the wicked witch so he can find her. He pretends to hate her and want her dead so that not only can he warn her about their plans in advance, and ...
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Why does Elphaba turn Fiyero into the Scarecrow on Wicked? Explained
December 1, 2024 - Through this change, Wicked develops a common idea: magical things can be unpredictable; Elphaba's spells try to shelter Fiyero from various dangers, but her unsuccessful magic causes him to become the Scarecrow. This twist makes the feelings between Elphaba and Fiyero stronger, showing how ...
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November 3, 2024 - The Scarecrow's bizarre origin story in Wicked is connected to Fiyero, the dashing rogue prince who is both Elphaba and Glinda's love interest.
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Answer: I think it’s an accident. “Let his flesh not be torn Let his blood leave no stain Though they beat him Let him feel no pain Let his bones never break And however they try to destroy him Let him never die Let him never die” She is trying to save his life when he is captured, and she cast...
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January 19, 2025 - Elphaba believes that Fiyero is dead and casts a spell to try and save his life; since he's not dead, the spell transforms him into the Scarecrow, and after Elphaba fakes her death by water (at Dorothy's hands) using a handy trapdoor, Fiyero ...
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November 29, 2024 - Ultimately, Fiyero’s transformation serves as a bridge between Wicked and The Wizard of Oz. As the Scarecrow, he assumes a new role in Oz's mythology, aligning himself with Dorothy while maintaining his hidden loyalty to Elphaba.