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What is like Giza 45 percale but 50-75 percent cheaper?

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cheap percale can feel terrible. We have both Giza and Finna and I feel Finna is the lowest to go on Sferra line for percale. Good discount around Thanksgiving to Christmas from Bloomingdale's. Answer from vapour2020 on reddit.com

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r/Bedding on Reddit: My thoughts on Sferra Finna and Giza 45 Percale

March 26, 2024 -

I shopped around for luxury brand sheets last year and I had a lot of hesitation and went back and forth on buying them, so I thought I'd share my experience for those thinking of purchasing these expensive sheets.

I ended up purchasing both Sferra Finna and Sferra Giza 45 percale. The Sferra Finna were disappointing. While they are very comfortable, I did not find them much more comfortable than my Egyptian cotton sets from L.L Bean (although I've had some major quality control issues with LL Bean that make me wary of ever buying them again). I definitely do not think they are worth 3x the price.

However, after being skeptical of other reviews, I have to say that the Giza 45 sheets are on a different level and by far the most comfortable sheets I've ever had. They are silky smooth while still being very breathable. They are so comfortable, any other sheets I sleep with, including the Finnas, are noticeably less comfortable. I ended up buying another set, because they're just that good.

For those who can afford the $1000+ price tag, I definitely recommend the Giza 45s. However, I still think that my Egyptian cotton sheets from LL Bean are very comfortable and for those looking for something less expensive I would recommend them over the Sferra Finna's just because of the price alone.

Thanks for sharing your experience! I’m a bit more positive on the finna than you but it’s super useful to hear the experiences of people who do spring for the really high end stuff. Did you get fabric swatches before buying the sferra sheets?

As far as I checked Bloomingdale’s has some sale on those

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Sferra Giza 45 Percale vs Finna

February 26, 2024 -

I'm looking to get new sheets and Bloomingdales currently has 25% off deal so I'm debating between the Giza 45 Percale and the Finna. A bottom fitted sheet and 2 pillowcases for the Finna is roughly $500. The same for the Giza 45 is roughly $760. I'm already stretching my budget by going with the Finna but would it be worth it to go for the Giza or is the difference in quality negligible? Or is there another brand to get? I'm at that age where I run hot at night buy still want a soft sheet so I'm guessing Percale is my best bet.

Personally, I feel that the Finna is definitely a bit of a step down from the Gizas but I tend to prefer it just on account of it being a bit 'heavier' than the Gizas. Keep in mind that the Gizas are very thin and lightweight and soft as butter, so there definitely is a difference in terms of those factors, but usually most think that once you go Gizas it's hard to go back to anything 'lesser quality' than it, so beware! :P Another brand that has really nice Giza offerings from Bloomingdales that I've heard good things about is Amalia Home's higher offerings (especially their 520TC percale option), which flies under the radar often at Bloomie's sometimes, but would definitely be worth a look, I think, if it's also on sale. Hope that helps and happy shopping, friend! :)

I got swatches and ended up buying Finna and Giza 45 Sateen. Based on swatches, I found Finna nicer than Giza 45 Percale. I slept in Finna last night for the first time and I absolutely loved it! I’m not sure if the premium for Giza 45 Percale over Finna is worth it.

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r/Bedding on Reddit: What is like Giza 45 percale but 50-75 percent cheaper?

October 17, 2024 -

Looking for thin and light sheets. I’m so much happier sleeping in a hotel bed compared to my own lol. Trying to solve this.

Does the crispness/ smoothness help to roll over easier? I notice I don’t move when sleeping at home. I feel that’s not good.

Just trying to get this set up right and sleep better.

Thanks.

cheap percale can feel terrible. We have both Giza and Finna and I feel Finna is the lowest to go on Sferra line for percale. Good discount around Thanksgiving to Christmas from Bloomingdale's.

https://www.cuddledown.com/itemdy00.aspx?T1=Z5940+100+30+01 Cuddledown’s Featherweight batiste is the thinnest cotton I’ve ever ever felt.

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r/Bedding on Reddit: St Geneve Giza 45 Sateen sheets vs others sheets?

October 5, 2023 -

I'm currently eyeing the St Geneve Giza 45 sateen sheets and I'm trying to compare them with other luxury bedding brands like from Sferra, Matouk or Frette. I’m curious about the Sferra and Frette Giza line since they seem comparable but are much more expensive than the St Geneve sheets. There’s also the Matouk Gatsby line that is percale cotton that seems great as well. In addition, I’m unsure if their slightly lower offering (Sferra Milos and Frette 600TC sateen sheets, Matouk Nocturne) is comparable to the St Geneve Giza 45.

I'm unfortunately only able to get swatches for the Sferra Giza and St geneve Giza so I’m not able to compare them all well. If anyone has tried the St Geneve Giza and compared them to the others or found something better, can you let me know?.

Now, I want to preface by saying that I haven't tried St Geneve's offerings since my local linen shop doesn't have them, nor Frette, but I can say that Sferra's Giza 45s are above and beyond pretty much anything most brands have as their 'premiere' top-shelf lines. There's just no comparison. At all. Matouk's Gatsby is nice but not as nice as you'd want at that price and pretty much all other brands that I tried with comparison to Sferra Giza 45s just could never compare or stand out as much as they did. Now, I've heard that Frette comes darn close to it with their Ultimate set, but I think even that brand falls just a tiny bit short of Sferra. St Geneve is not a bad brand and they're definitely a pretty primo one, but I think of them kind of like a Peacock Alley but perhaps a tad nicer. That's kind of how much of their products are like, and they definitely have more price-value offerings than most luxury brands, but their stuff never seems to be at the same level as the upper-level brands like Frette and Sferra---it's more about affordable luxury, if that makes sense. All of the brands and their models that you've listed are amazing for luxury bedding, but if you want top-shelf stuff I'd stick with the Sferra Giza 45s. The top one is the Giza 45 Luxe but it's insanely expensive and not for the faint of heart (or the working poor). The Giza 45 percale is the softest percale on the planet, but it definitely is pretty thin, so that turns off a lot of people. If you want a thicker sheet the Sereno would do pretty damn well for you for a heavier (but super-soft) percale, and if you want a more budget pick the Finna is pretty awesome overall but it won't come close to how soft the previous percale options are. For sateen the Giza 45 Luxe and the Sateen are A++ in terms of softness and are as good as you can get, with the Luxe being heavier and softer (I believe) and the Sateen much lighter but still unnaturally soft; the Milos, likewise, is the sateen version of the Sereno in that it's a much heavier and super-soft set, with the Giotto as a pretty decent budget pick for sateen. I'm unsure how most of the brands you listed compare to the Giza 45s from St Geneve, but I would expect that the Giza 45 from St Geneve would be comparable (hopefully), though it wouldn't surprise me at all if the Milos from Sferra is softer/better than St Geneve's highest offering Giza 45. The Sferra's are just that good and, for me at least, managed to eclipse all of the comparable luxury brands next to it, even their highest offerings. It's pretty insane (they must have an exclusive contract with the best Giza cotton growers in the Nile River Valley because something is in their sauce that nobody can match, short of perhaps Frette). Hopefully this helps you out, and while I have no doubt that St Geneve makes great stuff for the most part, their focus is mostly getting value for price rather than the highest quality that can be achieved on this earth. That's at least my observations of it from other users and their thoughts about it/impressions. If you have any more questions then feel free to ask---I'll do my best to help you out! :) And shoutout to u/Just-Another-007 for tagging me :) I appreciate it!

I haven’t tried the St Geneve Giza, but I have the st Geneve avorio pillowcases and they’re lovely (but they are silk). I love the Sferra Giza sateen. We also have the Finna, which is nice, but I prefer the Giza sateen. I haven’t had the chance to try the Matouk gatsby, but I’ve heard good things. I don’t know anything about frette, sorry!! u/SorcererLeotard is usually brilliant on all things bedding… 😁

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r/Bedding on Reddit: St Geneve Avorio or SFERRA Giza 45 Sateen?

March 10, 2024 -

Looking to get a quality sheet collection and after some research I’m set on getting one of these two. Hoping to get some opinions/feedback from those of you who have any experience with these, and which you think I should get. I’ll mention that Im a very hot sleeper so temperature control/cooling would be a big plus. Thanks!

Don’t be afraid to mix fabric types. I use Giza Percale as a Duvet Cover for breathability. Use Giza Sateen for fitted sheet for softness. Use Giza Seta for pillowcase because I like a bit of silk on my face. This mixture helped me create the best of all the worlds, couldn’t be happier. I much prefer Sateen for flat sheet since I move around a bit and percale creates a bit of friction. I have had the Sferra Finna and Giza percale Fitted Sheet.

If you are a hot sleeper then I'd say going with the Giza 45 percale vs the sateen would be the way to go. The Avorio is silk and while silk as a material is very cooling generally, silk sheets are a bit of a pain in the ass to maintain and if tightly woven enough will not be as breathable as cotton percale or linen. Sateen, likewise, is going to be warmer than percale, so while it might be really soft it won't do you many favors for breathability if that is the main goal + quality. Personally, I really like the Sferra Finna as it's a bit more substantial than the Giza 45s (especially the percale) and the price is pretty good overall for what you're getting. I've heard St Geneve is pretty good quality overall, but in terms of what is the best bedding brands it's usually a toss-up between Sferra and Frette, but only by small measures of degrees. I'm of the opinion, though, that once you start getting into luxury territory that getting fabric swatch samples is absolutely key so you don't get any surprises when you pull the trigger and know what the differences are in terms of feel/construction. Usually most brands will send free swatch samples but there are sites like FLandBath that will send them out from various brands so you can get them all in one order, which tends to be easier especially if you don't have a luxury linen store nearby to try them out in-store. However, I want to point out that also, many times when someone sleeps hot it's because of a variety of factors: the type of mattress they use (if it's foam then breathability will be limited because of this), mattress protector, duvet cover and insert, high thread count sateen sheets, etc. Diagnosing what traps heat in one's bed and replacing it with something more breathable or trying to work around it usually is a good idea generally since it will help a lot in the long run, in my experience :) Suffice to say, if one is using a Winter weight down insert/comforter on their bed then no amount of cooling sheets will be able to help much in that situation short of turning up your AC to arctic temps, you know? Hope this helps and if you have any more questions feel free to ask! :)

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Peacock Alley Lyric Percale vs Sferra Finna Percale

July 14, 2023 -

Does anyone have experience with either of these sheets? They're both on sale and the Sferra ones are only $100 dollars more. Also does anyone know if the Sferra sheets sold by third parties (Bloomingdale's) are the exact same as the ones sold by Sferra directly?

At the risk of angering the sub, we have a few Sferra sets and honestly I regret every purchase that wasn’t their Giza 45 line. I put a lot of effort into color coordinating our bedroom and since the G45 sets are only in 3 different colors (4 if you include Seta) I had to balance it with their other products. Every time we swap to a non-Giza it’s a significant decline in comfort. So now we basically just have a white or ivory bed because there’s no point in using their other sheets. Hell we just ordered another sateen set that’s getting delivered Tuesday so we don’t have to cycle them in the winter. I’d recommend getting the Giza 45 percale set over the Finna. It’s night and day. The only downside is the lack of color options. Outside of the duvet, G45 vs Finna is a minor price increase on sale. Wait on the duvet if it’s out of your price range.

Sferra Finna all the way. I felt the Lyric percale from PA and wasn't that impressed with it (the Soprano is much nicer but I'm a fan of sateen first and foremost). The Finna, on the other hand, is much, much nicer and honestly I think it's worth the extra $100 more compared to the Lyric. And I'm pretty sure the Sferra sheets sold to Bloomingdales are basically the same as the ones sold on Sferra's site. Sometimes companies like Bloomingdales will have their own line of products from brands like Sferra, but for the Finna you'll get the exact same quality on Bloomingdales as you'd get directly from Sferra. Hope that helps and if you have any more questions feel free to ask :)

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Underwhelmed by Sferra?

April 24, 2023 -

Hi bedding people! I recently bought Sferra Celeste percale sheets, they arrived last week. I bought them from Bloomingdale’s, so I know they are authentic. I washed them according to the instructions, put them on my bed, and well… they don’t feel any better than my Brooklinen percale sheets. In fact I think they feel less smooth. Am I judging them too soon? Do they need a few washes to feel better?

I have a Sferra Celeste just in a pillowcase, and I was definitely underwhelmed with it as well. I have the Finna as well in the percale and it is a night and day difference from the Celeste, far more in line with what I expect from Sferra. A few washes helped, but not as much as I would have liked. I only got the pillowcase to test out what I thought of Celeste, but I have moved it into the category of "not worth it". I also am lucky enough to have the Giza 45 percale just for pillowcases. It is unfair to compare the Celeste to those, they are in a class all their own.

Celeste takes several washes to start breaking in. I was first introduced to it through a secondhand king duvet cover - it was the softest, smoothest, crispest and highest quality bedding I'd felt at the time. I absolutely loved it (and still do, 6 years later.) It has only gotten softer with time and held up incredibly well despite hard use. That duvet inspired me to purchase more from the Celeste line. I ordered a flat sheet, and I was sure there either had to be a mistake or the quality had seriously taken a nosedive since my duvet was made. It felt scratchy and was nothing like I was used to, even after a wash. I returned it. A few years later and still obsessed with my amazing duvet, I found a great deal on some Celeste pillowcases so I decided to give the line another try. These were also underwhelming straight out of the package, and even after a wash. Rather rough. This time I stuck with them though and within a few more washes I noticed them softening. It's to the point now that with each subsequent wash I can absolutely notice a further improvement in softness. I'm confident this is why my duvet feels so amazing and that these pillowcases will get there eventually. So if you're still struggling with Celeste I'd give it another shot if I were you, considering the price point for the quality. When broken in they are crisp, smooth, and cool, and they have a feel and even a look to them that to me is like an expensive men's dress shirt. I haven't been able to find this "look" or feel anywhere else, although I'm sure Giza 45 percale will live up to the hype when I manage to snag a few pieces.

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Ready to make the jump to luxury linens for crisp, cool, cotton bedsheets

June 12, 2025 -

I’m considering making the jump to luxury linens & big fan of matte, crisp, soft percale sheets. I’m open to the investment if high-quality, durable, machine washable, minimal to no ironing, feels great first use & gets better year after year (like me LOL) Hoping for at least 8-10 yr useful life, used daily & washed weekly. Need deep fitted sheet that’s easy to put on and doesn’t slip off while sleeping. No sateen, bamboo or blend that has a slick or dampish feel. Live in east cost Florida town where it’s always hot & humid. 90+degrees & afternoon rain 80% of the year. Researching Matouk, Frette & Sferra so far. Finding tremendous price differences and offerings even within each luxury linen line.

There are no luxury linen stores nearby. Before making the journey to one, I’m trying to do my homework on quality, value, longevity, durability, owner feedback and questions to ask the sales person. I don’t want to be pressured into a decision because I feel like I’ve taken up too much of their time or have to make the long drive multiple times. ~$1,000 budget for set..fitted, flat, 4 pillowcases all King.

Looking for feedback on brands & product lines recommended and avoid based on my requirements. If you know of unbiased websites that do a fair comparison or review, please share. I understand linens are a very personal preference, but I’d like to know if you made the jump to luxury bedsheets & if you believe it’s worth the investment. If not, what brand & line do you recommend? If you made the investment and then later regretted it, why? Thanks.

Rule #1: get swatches! Matouk and sferra will send out as many as you want for free. Matouks website has a tool to request them, for sferra you have to email and ask. But 100% worth it to feel stuff in advance

I have Sferra Giza 45 Sateen and Percale, Finna, Giotto, Peacock Alley Soprano and Virtuosa. After two years of ownership, Sferra Giza 45 Percale seems to be becoming my favorite. Fresh out of the box, Sferra Giza 45 Percale comes as the roughest of all, but it washes really well, softens and smooths out. I’ve been having these new linens for close two years. Sferra Giza 45 Sateen is great but very delicate. I follow every single washing instruction and I have threads coming out with my Giza 45 Sateen. The percale is much sturdier. Peacock Alley Soprano is also great and half the price. Sferra Giza 45 Sateen though is true luxury with luster and silky smooth and soft. I personally don’t think Giza 45 Percale is better than Sferra Giza 45 Sateen for the summer. I would recommend Sferra Giza 45 Percale and Sateen and Peacock Alley Soprano. Finna is also great, but after time Sferra Giza 45 Percale is better.

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Bought and returned Sferra Sheets

March 21, 2024 -

Bought the Giza 45 Percale sheets from Bloomingdale’s. I opened them and the fitted sheet has a rip. They asked me if I wanted to return it and get a new one sent but my feelings are any sheets this flimsy fresh from the manufacturer won’t last. I’m not spending over a grand on sheets that won’t last for a long time. Aside from that they weren’t even soft.

This sub has such a hard-on for Sferra and I don’t get it either. I def can’t afford the $1000+ sheets, but I did get the roughly $400 sheets from the Celeste line. They had a rip within 6 months and aren’t very smooth or crisp.

I wonder if somehow either at the factory or at the store, someone was using a boxcutter and accidentally cut the sheets. It seems odd that brand new sheets would be ripped like that.

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Sateen-Swatch Madness (tests)

April 9, 2024 -

After starting my trial of the Brooklinen and Parachute sateen sheets in my 'cage match' post, I ordered 9 other swatches with the intention of putting them into the second wash of the two trial sheets. Here's my before-and-after report. Fabric pricing is based on a queen flat sheet because that's what I need to buy rather than a set, and I've sorted these according to price point first.

To identify each swatch post-laundry, I added a loop of a different color thread to each one, and a second piece of thread to their swatch card. Washed with the two sheets in Warm water, with a 7^th Generation Free & Clear pod, dried 40 minutes on Low heat.

Texture (silky-smoothness) was evaluated by touch 'along the grain' of the fabric's top surface.

PEACOCK ALLEY SOPRANO - $215
Extra-long staple of undisclosed type or source
420 TC, made in Portugal
Before washing: Luster good, surface texture not as smooth as I had hoped, but okay. Fabric is thicker than the AH Sereno, but thinner than SF Lineare, AH Suave, and Giza 45.
After washing: Luster still pretty good, surface texture not much changed but I now feel slightly more grain. Substance didn't appear to change at all from washing, which was surprising.

AMALIA HOME SUAVE - $250
100% Giza 94, which is long-staple
430 TC, made in Portugal
Before washing: Surface texture very smooth and silky. Excellent substance/weight, the nicest of the seven at this point.
After washing: Lost a noticeable amount of smoothness, which was a bummer because it was great initially. Seems a little bit thinner too, although nowhere near thin. This is the sateen swatch that disappoints me most compared to before washing.

SIGNORIA FIRENZE LINEARE - $295
100% Supima (ELS)
600 TC, made in Italy
Before washing: Lustrous and smooth but with a detectable grain. Good substance/weight but not quite as much as the AH Suave.
After washing: Lost considerable luster, and became less smooth. Substance/weight remained good.

PEACOCK ALLEY VIRTUOSO - $385
Extra-long staple of undisclosed type or source
600 TC, made in Italy
Before washing: Slightly smoother than the Soprano but not a dramatic difference. Was expecting it to be a little heavier than it was, at least at this stage, but it is certainly not thin.
After washing: Definitely smoother and more lustrous than the Soprano post-wash. Substance/weight is pretty much at the sweet spot of what I am looking for, and closer to that than the Soprano.

AMALIA HOME SERENO - $445
100% Giza 92, which is extra-long staple
700 TC, made in Portugal
Before washing: Very smooth, comparable to the Suave which is also made by them. It felt thinner than the Suave, however. (Sauve is LS, this one is ELS) and also thinner than several of the other swatches.
After washing: This one really surprised me because it remained very smooth and silky. Very happy with that. But the thinness puts it right next to the Parachute sateen which is going back because of that very reason. It feels much nicer than the Parachute but is just as thin. Bummer.

SFERRA FINNA ("the percale for sateen lovers") - $450
unspecified "extra-long staple cotton"
525 TC, made in Italy
Before washing: Almost but not quite as smooth as the Giza 45, and definitely a lower luster because this is a percale. Lighter than the G45 but not to the point of being flimsy.
After washing: Even though these were small swatches, this wrinkled much more than any of the others (no surprise.) Lost most of the initial silkiness. I liked this very much before washing, but not much afterward. I know that percale is supposed to get softer over time but with my penchant for instant gratification, this fabric isn't for me.

SFERRA GIZA 45 (because why not) - $983
100% Giza 45
700 TC, made in Italy
Before washing: Incredibly awesome in every way. What else is there to say? Lol
After washing: Still awesome in every way. Why am I not rich enough to afford these? The universe is very cruel.

I also requested two swatches directly from Matouk (Nocturne and Talita) but have not yet received them, so rather than keep waiting I went ahead and tested the seven swatches that I have. The Nocturne specs simply say "Egyptian cotton sateen" 600 TC. The Talita says it's a blend of two extra-long-staple Giza cottons, 87 and 92, but I have no idea what the percentage is (I did ask, have not got a response yet.) Talita is 615 TC.

Testing these swatches has shown me that, with the exception of the Giza 45, a 600 TC seems to be what I gravitate toward in terms of substance/weight. I don't like a sheet that is thin enough to let me feel the texture of either my lower blanket or my mattress protector through it. That's why the Parachute (thread count not disclosed by them) is going back. If the Amalia Home Sereno (700 TC Giza 92) were just a little bit thicker, that would be the clear winner here because it has a lovely finish. But the thinness is a deal breaker for me.

I went back and forth between the after-washing PA Soprano and Virtuoso a bit, but in the end, it came down to the surface luster/smoothness, and the weight, and the Virtuoso appeals to me more on both counts. Not by a wide margin, but definitely there. Of course, there's a noticeable difference in price also ($250 vs $385). PA does not disclose the type or source of the cotton for either, saying only "extra-long staple" so who knows. The lack of transparency is annoying. PA also specifies cold water washing which ain't gonna happen here no matter what the sheets are. My un-educated guess, though, is that the Virtuoso – by virtue of its tighter weave – is probably more likely to handle warm-water washing better than the Soprano would.

If only the Amalia Home Sereno had the same substance/thickness as the Virtuoso, it would be a slam dunk, even though at $445 it is $60 more per sheet than the PA. I'd wait for a good sale and grab them. And AH said "mild" wash which I am assuming means that warm is okay.

Amalia Home also makes 'Dalia' which is the same Giza 92 but is 800 TC. I did not order a swatch of that one, mainly because a queen flat is $525...$80 more than the Sereno. Out of curiosity I will get a swatch in order to compare the weight to the Sereno and the Virtuoso. Maybe I will have received the Matouk swatches by that time also.

At this point, though, the PA Virtuoso is in the lead. Not at regular price though. 😉

Thank you so much for this review. The universe IS very cruel! Could you list the softness rating on these, as you did for the Parachute? I know sheets get softer over time - thought the Parachute may work well after a few washes. I also looked at Thomas Lee for old timey sheets (based on this sub's comments) - they have free swatches too. For Peacock Alley, I had a lower end 300 tc (I think it was a sateen but not sure) set from them, and it definitely started out grainy and thick and not as soft - eventually it became sooooo soft. Never lustrous. Eventually my washing machine wore a hole through it. I got it from Tuesday Morning. Re: cruel world prices - You could try Gilt.com, and there's another one that offers obscenely priced items for much less. It's higher end TJ Maxx. They don't offer returns on washed sheets, but if you've already tried them, you should be able to order fearlessly. You do have to sign up to see the items, but they're there. Products vary. Oops - they don't have your brands. They did have Sferra and PA but not right now. Maybe Ruelala - nope.

Thanks for the amount of effort that went into this research/review!

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Buyer's Guide for Luxury Sheets: Matouk, Sferra, and Frette – FIG LINENS AND HOME

December 15, 2022 - Giza cotton refers to an incredibly fine long-staple Egyptian cotton. The fiber is considered the gold standard for making the world's most luxurious sheets. It is used in Sferra's Giza 45 styles and Matouk's Bergamo and Gatsby styles.

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Looking for percale sheets in the $500-800 range

February 25, 2023 -

In a perfect world I would buy the Sferra Giza 45 but I'm not ready to drop $2k on a sheet set. Looking for the next best thing, only looking for long staple cotton- I've used the company, Target, Costco, LL bean bedthreads and many others and I'd like to invest in something higher quality.

Any advice is appreciated!

I would highly recommend going with extra-long staple offerings rather than long-staple offerings if you want the next best thing after the Giza 45s, imo. The next best ones for percale from Sferra is (in order of most expensive to least): Sereno, Finna or (one that I like better than the Celeste in terms of the weave being unique) the Tesoro. Keep in mind the Tesoro might not 'wow' you at all and it's not really comparable to the Finna or the Sereno, but I definitely prefer it over the Celeste since the Celeste didn't really impress me for the price. It might get a bit better with age and I'm just being picky, but the Finna and the Sereno were definitely noteworthy if you don't want to get into Giza 45 territory and want to be wowed, imo. Matouk is also another good option, overall, but it (imo) doesn't come very close to Sferra in terms of quality but it still has some pretty nice options in the higher-end lines. The Gatsby is the standout at 1000+ thread count Giza cottons, so if you want thicker and really soft sheets for a percale weave, these will be very nice for those characteristics (think Sferra's Giza 45 but thicker and almost as soft). Other notable sets are: Lowell, Luca or Bergamo. Many of these can be gotten for a semi-decent discount if you wait for a 20% off sale from places like LinenSociety every now and again (or their clearance sections sometimes will have sets for super-cheap) or sometimes ebay will have them for a pretty decent discount if you're lucky. I've seen the Gatsby flat/fitted sheet in new condition go for $200 Queen size sometimes, so it's possible (missed that lucky auction and still kick myself for falling asleep at the eleventh hour). St Geneve also has some really great bargains in terms of quality-to-price ratios (in other words their higher-quality offerings are pretty damn good compared to brands like Sferra or Matouk at much, much cheaper price-points). Their best is the Giovani and then the next on their list is Venice. Both will be decent for the price, but they more than likely won't stand out insanely well like Sferra's higher-quality offerings. Frette is considered one of the best options (comparing it against Sferra) and while I have no experience with their linens I have heard they make some really nice stuff when you get into their 'upper tier' categories and many swear by them and their percales. One thing I would point out though for you going forward: Do NOT get anything from them that isn't considered their upper-tiered offerings. There are a lot of Frette sheet sets on places like Ebay and most are their lower-tier offerings, even if they are going for $500+. Not all Frette sets are created equally and it will not be very impressive for you if you get something from Frette that is considered lower or mid-tier in terms of quality. Like most luxury brands, you'll feel the difference when you go over the $500 mark in terms of sets. Most offerings from luxury brands that are under $500 will just not be worth it more times than not, I've found. Either way, it would be insanely wise to either order fabric swatches of the sets you have the most interest in online from sites like Fine Linen and Bath or to find a local specialty linen store in your area (or high-end places like Bloomingdales or a comparable store that carries luxury linens) and test them out in-store. The more money you spend (over $500 for a set, in other words) the more I recommend this because it is, hands-down, the best thing you can ever do to stop yourself from buying something that you are just not that impressed with, honestly. It sucks to return stuff that you took a chance on (or were talked-up about over the internet about) and have your expectations dashed, so feeling sample swatches before you take the plunge is absolutely essential, imo, otherwise you will more than likely buy something that you regret purchasing. If, after trying a bunch of the percale swatches I listed on this comment doesn't WOW you completely then (honestly speaking) nothing probably will and you'd be better off just getting a semi-cheap but decently-made set from the previous companies you've previously bought from like LL Bean, Target or Costco. Just my two cents :) Hope this helps and if you have any more questions feel free to ask away! There are probably a few more brands that are noteworthy that I've forgotten but it's late and these are the general 'go-to' brands that most tend to gravitate towards in the luxury percale category :D

you might be able to get a set of St. Geneve (canadian maker) Flora Giza 45 in the 700 to 800 US dollar range given the USA to Canadian dollar exchange rates. look into what the cost would be from a seller like bettenhaus canada or The Mattress and Sleep Company or Shades of Sleep. downside is that theyre custom made to order, have a 4-5wk wait, are non refundable/returnable, only comes in sateen, and only comes in white. TMASC website lists a queen set at 720 USD and king set at 784 USD. https://www.tmasc.ca/products/st-geneve-flora-giza-45-egyptian-cotton-sheets https://www.stgeneve.com/product-page/flora-giza-sateen 100% Giza 45 Egyptian Cotton 500 thread count Fabric from Italy Sewn in Canada

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Giza 45 not feeling Soft?

October 4, 2023 -

I was looking for a sheet and pillowcase set and saw a lot of people here recommending giza 45 (usually through sferra). I got a bunch of samples of:

Giza 45 Sateen

Giza 45 Percale

Giza 45 Luxe

Non-Giza 45 Percale

However, all of them seem to be scratchier and less soft than my current cheap microfiber sheets. I threw them in the wash once to see if it was a thing where they needed a wash cycle but it didn't make much of a difference. Am I missing something here?

This is what I have now:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0822TD1MK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

I have Giza 45 sateen and Luxe and they are not as soft as tencel or bamboo or even sateen sheets from lands end. They do get better after ironing but I was not impressed after spending $5k on a sheet set. I wrote to Sferra they asked me to send it back. I ended up keeping them and use them daily knowing that I am sleeping on a stack of cash.

Micro fiber is soft, but not good for hot sleepers

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Sferra and Frette questions

April 3, 2023 -

Hi all! I’m getting super confused and maybe I don’t need to be, hoping someone here can help me out.

So I know percale best, and sferra for example has 4 different “levels” with different names. Ex) I have the Celeste duvet and Giza pillowcases and sheets. But I’m too afraid to use the Giza sheets bc of how expensive they were and how I’m not a fastidious person who wants to panic everytime I use a pen in bed or when my dogs skin tags burst.

I’ve been looking to add to my bedding and want to keep it more reasonable going forward bc that expensive bedding life anxiety isn’t for me at this moment in my priorities. I see many on eBay listed without the group names, no where visible on the packaging. The listings get as confusing as sferra’s and frette’s websites… Some are 600TC extra long staple cotton, some are 300tc long staple cotton percale. I don’t know how to compare any of them, or what the prices originally are because there’s no group/name to look up beyond the manufacturer. Is there a buying guide somewhere? Or a rule of thumb? Is it normal to have this many variations? Are they even real?

I already know to only buy the ones from Italy and that “at home” and casa Luna aren’t the same thing. I’d like a basic set of sateen and a basic set of percale.

We have very knowledgeable people in this sub! They will def help. Def read through some older posts too. I have Sferra Finna percale set and they are nice. Def will keep you cool in the summer. But I prefer my Sferra Giza 45 Sateen more, just softer. Use your sheets, enjoy them 💜

I can absolutely understand how luxury sheets (esp high end ones) can cause anxiety in someone, for sure! I make sure no animals can get into my room every day (I don't trust them not to ruin my bedding in some way) and for the amount of money I've spent on all my sleep gear I definitely am much more careful with what I'm doing to them and try not to be too rough on them. That being said, there's definitely something to be said when you sleep in truly high quality sheets and if you don't mind splurging on nicer sheets, I (personally) feel it's worth it. But, I can absolutely appreciate if someone would rather just have decent-enough sheets that are a good value for the price, especially if a budget is important in your life! Regarding percale-weave sheet sets: I think the Macy's Hotel Collection Supima is percale and I didn't mind using them when I first replaced my bamboo sheets for decent cotton sheets. For the amount you spend on them they're not too bad at all and they soften up pretty nicely over time (took about 4 or so washes for it to go from just so-so to pretty decently soft). The Target sets are decent, as well, for the price I hear, so that def might be a direction you might want to go in. Peacock Alley can also have some decent sheet sets for the price they sell them at, though their higher-end lines are absolutely 100% miles above their lower-end lines. I really appreciate Malouf's Supima sheet set for sateen (esp when you can find them for $150-$250 on places like ebay or amazon) for what you're getting and it definitely is really soft, lightweight quality for the price; I haven't tried out their Linen-Weave cotton set but it'll most likely be shorter-staple cotton compared to the Supima set, but I definitely wonder about their quality and how it fares against other percale sheets in that pricerange. Regarding ebay sellers' weirdness on (particularly) listing Sferra sheet sets under different labels/models... I understand exactly what you're hinting at and I'm as baffled as you. For the Celeste, particularly, there are some models that are just labeled as Egyptian Cotton and others that are Long Staple Cotton or Extra-Long Staple Cotton. All of them are made in Italy (I believe) and I also think all of them are 406 thread count percale, so the only difference between them---that I can see----is their staple-length. I'm unsure if it's just older models that used crappier quality cotton or if they're bootleg. It would maybe be wise to talk to Sferra (or any higher end bedding company you see this from) about this to see why this is happening and what it means (it could very well be their 'outlet version' of their popular models so I cannot recommend them off ebay at this time until it's cleared up). At this moment, though, better safe than sorry until it's better addressed by the company directly. But usually it's common to have a lot of 'unnamed models' from certain brands than you'd think since Tuesday Morning (as the best example) peddles the lower lines from brands like Sferra or Peacock Alley as their bread-and-butter, so to speak. I have a suspicion that a lot of times Sferra will make 'outlet sets' for certain companies so I wonder if this is sort of the answer, in the end. But, no: there's no guide as far as I can tell. Most brands don't have an incentive to do so for the lower-end lines and everyone is happy mostly keeping the status-quo (Sferra is happy, customer is mostly happy and so is Tuesday Morning/whoever is selling the outlet lines). The best advice I can give is to (if you can) feel everything in person and to call the companies you're interested in to ask them what they'd recommend from them in the pricerange/weave you're looking for. Hope this helps some and sorry I don't have the answer to this question definitively :(

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Matouk Talita sheets yarns and Giza quality?

September 28, 2024 -

My interest has been piqued by the Matouk Talita sheets which are a blend (don't know the percentages) of Giza 87 and Giza 92, both of which are extra-long staple according to what I have read.

Further nerdy research on my part revealed that Giza 87 is a hybrid of Giza 77 x Giza 45, and that Giza 92 is a hybrid of Giza 84 x (Giza 74 x Giza 68.)

Having some experience of plant hybridization myself, I looked further into the parentages of G87 and G92. Found two interesting things, including that Giza 45 also exists in the background of the un-registered hybrid of G74 x G68 (it's the grandparent, so to speak, of Giza 74, and thus the 'great-grandparent' of Giza 92. So, this manufacturing mix used for Talita has a 'double dose' of Giza 45 in its makeup.

Further research revealed that what is now called Giza 87, and also the pollen parent of Giza 92 (the G74 x G68 cross), were evaluated at Benha University during the mid-1990s for multiple characteristics important to cotton production and quality, and both hybrids did quite well. So theoretically the combination of these two yarns into a single fabric should produce something that is durable and also thin enough to be used in a middling-high thread count, assuming both are single ply. The Talita is 615 TC, but what concerns me a bit as a "sateen" person is that Matouk touts it as being "lightweight, breathable sateen" and a "sateen for percale lovers." I am very much not a percale lover, though!

On the other hand, I seem to recall u/SorcererLeotard mentioning that Sferra Finna is "a percale for sateen lovers", LOL, so perhaps the Talita and the Finna are essentially attaining the same result but coming from different ends, so to speak?

If anyone happens to be a sateen lover who has tried the Matouk Talita, in what ways (good or bad) does it compare to other sateen sheets that you have tried?

If the Talita were to go on sale (a queen flat is currently $349 regular price) for, say 25% off, it would essentially be the same ($250) as an Amalia Home 430 TC 'Suave' (100% Giza 94 which is just LS)), or the Signoria Firenze 600 TC Lineare (100% Supima) .

At its regular price, the Talita is comparable to the sale price of the Peacock Alley Virtuoso which is also 600 TC but doesn't say where their "extra long staple" comes from.

The Virtuoso is made in Italy, and the Matouk website says that their products are made (sewn) in the USA (in Massachusetts). For those who own Talita items, does the tag say "made in USA"? (not that I am suspicious or anything, lol)

Thanks for any feedback on the feel, weight, thinness, etc of the Talita. I am going to order a swatch but always have a tough time getting anything useful from a 2" square snippet of anything. :-/

(I am going to try to find out from Matouk (a) where the fabric is woven and (b) if they will tell me the percentages of the Giza 87 and Giza 92 threads within it.)

i have talita pillowcases. they’re fabulous, the fabric is unbelievable, and i mostly use sateens. much nicer than virtuoso imo. haven’t felt the suave or lineare so can’t compare to those. matouk sews most of their products in the US but the actual fabric is, i believe, largely imported from italy. you can probably do some digging on importyeti and figure out which mills, specifically, if you’re curious

I have Talita sateen duvet cover and I don’t care for it frankly. I am a fan of lightweight fabrics and I like percale (but I do also like sateen), so I thought it sounded like a good fit. I wonder if me getting it in a medium shade (shell - kind of like lighter terracotta) is the issue and the dye pigment made the fabric feel less smooth. I also have Matouk’s Nocturne pillow sham and actually like it more. I have been happy with Matouk’s percale and voile, but Talita was a disappointment.

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r/Mattress on Reddit: Sheets rich people use?

June 14, 2024 -

I always buy cheap sheets and I don’t get good sleep. What sheets do Rich people use?

Giza 45 or Sea Island Cotton are the most sought-after and high quality cottons one can purchase. Brands like Frette, Sferra, Matouk, Pratesi, or Letto are definitely brands I would recommend as they have some of the best linens in the world. Silk is also something that many wealthy people like to use, but I tend to prefer cottons over it.

Anything from Costco

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Thread Count for Sheets – Does it Really Matter?

Finna · Smooth, Cool, Soft & Substantial · Medium · Extra-Long Staple Cotton · Sereno · Light & Airy, Extremely Soft, Matte · Ultra-Light · Giza 45 Egyptian Cotton · SFERRA Giza 45 Percale · SATEEN · Sateen is a weave that features long expanses of exposed yarns, creating a sleek sheen, a denser weight than percale, and exceptional softness.

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The World's Finest - Truth About Thread Count

Truthaboutthreadcount.com · What is Giza 45? Giza 45 is the most highly graded cotton fibre of the Egyptian cottons. It is the longest, thinnest, strongest and most has the best uniformity index of 88.5 of the ‘Giza’ grade cottons. Meaning the irregularities are minimal, therefore producing ...

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r/Bedding on Reddit: Sferra Giza 45

June 18, 2022 -

Could only afford the pillow cases but they are by far the silkiest and smoothest cotton I’ve ever touched not just slept on.

I’m curious to try the full set of Giza 45 luxe sheets which is over 10k for a set

I read an article in the new Yorker that said Egyptian cotton is just like regular cotton because it has been so badly bred and farmed anymore (for at least the last 15 years). This would explain why it seems there isn't much difference in quality. So it is sort of false advertising. I bought a random towel at a Home Goods store called Feather Touch and it to this day is an anomaly of a cotton fabric and I suspect this is made from real long staple cotton. I cannot find a thing like it anywhere and the brand seems to be defunct. It is like a silky microfiber. I bought it in 2016 or 2017 which might be due to supplies of actual long staple cotton still being available. Leave it to humans to ruin something amazing from nature.

Only you can decide if it’s worth it. I have some bedding from an Italian mill that was custom made but it’s linen and there’s no doubt they are good but I still prefer the made to order Linen sheets I have from an Irish mill as the weave is far superior but the cost was higher. If you like the 45s then go for it.