Hello everyone, I was talking to one of the bootcamp advisors and they recommended me to try out freecodecamp to see if I would like a job like this where I sit and code all day, as we continue to discuss , she added that if I want to be guaranteed a job I would need a bootcamp to help with that.
Do you believe this is true? Do you think freecodecamp certifications alone helps could help you land a job?
Let me preface by saying I know nothing. This is basically day 2 for me learning code. I used to be a chef. I only have like a year and a couple months to support myself financially while learning this stuff. What would be your course of action and do you think I should be utilizing free sources like freeCodeCamp before signing up for a bootcamp or would it be a waste of time?
I also plan on learning Python first and trying to make money only with that at first, is this wise?
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I’ve been switching between the different courses between all three as a beginner, trying to figure out what I personally like. I’m leaning more towards Code Academy right now, but I really like FreeCodeCamp and I use that one more than W3School. I really like the interactive stuff that gets me actually writing the code and building stuff like they do.
But I’m curious what everyone would recommend and why? How far did either of them get you?
My goal is to learn HTML, CSS, JavaScript, Node.js, React, Bootstrap and C++.
I want to make websites for fun for myself and my projects and friends, and I want to make video games like in Unreal Engine!
I am a complete beginner, literally no knowledge or background about programming. I did some research on free courses on the internet and these two - freeCodeCamp and TheOdinProject - are the ones where I don't feel so lost lol
For some background, I want to focus as a web developer (fullstack)
So, which course should I take? The freeCodeCamp (the Certified Full Stack Developer Curriculum) or the full curriculum of TheOdinProject?
I'm planning to take some time off of work, maybe three-four months depending on what my budget will tolerate. I am just wondering if anyone can let me know which of the following plans is better in terms of what opportunities I'll be able to attract once I've completed either:
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an immersive online full stack boot camp experience, or
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more of an independent effort to work through Udacity's full-stack nanodegree while simultaneously studying for an aws certification and learning as much JavaScript and (less so) Python as I can manage over a similar time, say 3-4 months.
I'm completely aware that the learning I do during this time will be preliminary and there is much more learning to come (and hopefully enjoy) down the road. I also know I will have to share a lot of projects on GitHub (and elsewhere) to get noticed. My background: I have a Masters in information systems and spent a year working as an associate sysadmin. For the past six months, I've worked in application support. I've always wanted to learn to program and usually spend a lot of my free time studying books on Python programming. Also, I can't really afford to take more than four months off as I'm getting married at the end of next year and my fiancé is currently in school full-time herself.
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Can anyone with experience weigh in on whether 3-4 months is sufficient for finding jobs developing web pages or being knowledgable/capable/handy in full-stack development?
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Can someone out there compare Udacity's full-stack web developer nanodegree (FSND) to what boot camps offer through their immersive 3-4 month curriculums?
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Is the FSND nanodegree doable over a 3-4 month timespan? I've heard it is, but fwiw, Udacity no longer appears to offer their 50% tuition discount for completing their programs in half the expected time.
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If I determine to take the independent study path, what is the viability that I will be able to complete an aws developer certification as well as the cherry on top?
Just wanted to see if anyone could readily comment, share words of wisdom, or is up for pitching harsh criticisms or unique input on these plans.
Obviously, all feedback is welcome :)
Addendum
First-off this needs to be said: thank you for all the incredibly helpful feedback. I've gotten so much good advice (so much love for the sub). In fact, at this point, after discussing nearly every response on here with my fiance, we've had something of a paradigm shift in our thinking about what can be achieved in terms of our financial situation.
TL;DR - I'm taking a 6-month "break" from full-time work to do self-study
To justify the risk I am taking by taking time off, I just thought I should point out my current job involves traveling nearly an hour both ways, which has limited my time for self-study up to this point to a meager two hours a day. I don't think the goals I have set out for myself can be accomplished in a reasonable time frame without taking time off.
I've also completely thrown out the idea that any sort of boot camp path will be right for me in making this career change. I'm majorly skeptical about the methods boot camps employ and whether they are generally effective at producing good full-stack web developer candidates. To me, the main benefit that would come from such an experience is in the chance to meet fellow programmers, working in pair programming sessions on a regular basis, and getting access to a mentor (with whom ymmv). I think a lot of the other time spent in a boot camp setting is spent in panic mode where lectures are presented by teachers with questionable ability performing their role, and clamoring among your fellow boot camp learners for rare moments of clarity in actually being strongly engaged with the material. In addition to these points, boot camps are significantly limiting and risky to people trying to change careers because they are so expensive. You can have similar engagement with others for free online or in local Meetups.
Self-study and learning online, at least for me, is something I'm comfortable with and I actually believe self-study is superior in many cases with the exception that you don't have access to the same immediate feedback that can be had from face-to-face. You learn at your own pace and have reasonable control over your environment and so the truly committed can thrive. The only other problem I see with not doing the boot camp is that down the road when I'm in a job, I'll need to know how to work with others to program in projects. To that point, I say that this experience is something to be learned most quickly in a job and is somewhat difficult to authentically replicate in an educational setting.
So, like I mentioned above, I've discussed all this with my fiance, and now we are feeling much more open to the idea of me taking up to 6 months off for me to commit to self-study. The revelation for me from reading all your responses, has brought tremendous relief, because this is something I've always wanted to do, but never really had adequate time for. My online Masters in Information Systems was pretty limiting in that it didn't offer much more than a single course in Web programming and database management, and the school wouldn't let me anywhere near their courses in computer science because, to them, I lacked the math background (Psychology undergrad). I am so hungry to learn much more about software development (consider me a hungry underdog) and it looks like this will finally happen in my life. I just have to make sure I make the most of this time.
My current plan of action is to enroll in Udacity's full-stack web developer nanodegree and study as much about software engineering as I can in addition to the obligations of the Udacity program. That's not to say I won't also be engaged in free resources like freeCodeCamp, I just know I'll need to be very careful about where I'm allocating my time. I also need to make another major point; I've never been absolutely thrilled about the idea of getting into WebDev - instead, my true interest lies in actually working in software development, however, I don't exactly see the two as mutually exclusive in this day and age, and I think accreditation in full-stack technologies would do much in the way of helping me break into the industry.
tbh, a 3-4 month bootcamp or 3-4 month of rigorous study even at 12 hours a day probably won't be enough to get noticed but if either method works, good for you.
I recently got a job as a Front End Developer after spending about a year and a half self-studying part-time (around a 40-hour per week job). I haven't done a bootcamp, and I haven't done the Udacity program, but hopefully my input isn't entirely unhelpful to you.
First, expect it to take longer than you expect. Given your education, you will probably pick stuff up much quicker than I did (English major here). But when you're first starting out, you simply don't know all the things you don't know about web development (I'm still finding out things every day about CSS, let alone JS). So I wouldn't recommend planning to make the career switch in 3-4 months if you only actually have 3-4 months of financial runway. I would estimate 6-9 months between training and job seeking in a best-case scenario (i.e., live, breathe, and dream code full-time), but that can obviously vary wildly.
On Bootcamps: I've known quite a few bootcamp grads who got jobs right out of their programs; and they do really accelerate the pace of your learning (the ability to get direct feedback can be hugely helpful). But they are generally very expensive, and I think all the things I regret not having from a bootcamp (building a local network of fellow devs and local employers) would be lessened significantly by doing one online. I'm not sure if in-person is an option for you, but I'd really be hesitant to pay bootcamp prices to only get the learning aspect of a program (because, honestly, you can do all the learning without the bootcamp). Personally, I'd be hesitant to pay bootcamp prices at all, but then, if I had done a bootcamp, my career change probably would have taken 6-9 months, instead of 1.5 years, so it's down to what your priorities are. I would also say that the market seems to be more and more saturated with bootcamp grads right now, so I think employers are getting more picky, and the 90% hiring rates they all tout will probably start slipping a bit (not much yet, but a bit). All of this, of course, varies greatly from program to program.
Re: Udacity. I like a lot of their content (a lot of which you can actually access for free, including the JavaScript Design Patterns course, which was invaluable to me), but I've found a lot of other resources out there that are just as good, and I am dubious as to whether their nanodegree programs make that much of a difference over self-study with books and other online courses to be worth the cost. I would try working through a few of their introductory courses before deciding to put any money down.
I do know the feeling of having a job you absolutely hate, so I understand that leaving immediately might be your priority for your own mental health, and you should definitely respect that. But honestly, I would suggest at least starting to self-study while you still have a job (even if you need to quit your current job and go work part-time on a more chill schedule). The great thing about self-study is that you can do it for free or next to nothing (I spent a total of about $200 total on books and video courses, and honestly, if money were really tight I could have gotten away without spending that), and if you do decide to do a bootcamp or other program down the road, you'll be better able to come out of the experience with a really kick-ass portfolio that will set you apart from the other grads.
Also, you might not actually love web dev, even if you do love programming. Far better to find out that CSS or JS make you want to tear your hair out now than to find out when you've already put down $12k for a bootcamp (although CSS and JS make everyone want to tear their hair out at first and at regular intervals throughout their career, so don't let that stop you, necessarily).
On top of that, I think being an effective self-studier is really essential. Because things change so much faster in web development than in other spheres, and because there's so much variety, there's a good chance that the tech you learn today will either be out of date soon (which is why learning the fundamentals is super important, because they don't change as quickly) or that the job you get will have an entirely different stack than what you've trained in (aside from HTML, CSS, and JS). So you're going to have to get used to self-study now or later--might as well start now.
I won't launch into a link dump here, because that's not what you asked about, but if you do want to know what resources I found most helpful, just let me know. I mostly cobbled my learning together from cheap Udemy courses, books, and free online tutorials, but it all depends on what style of learning/teaching works best for you, so only you can decide if a bootcamp or Udacity nanodegree is the right fit.
Anyway, good luck, have fun, and congrats on the engagement. :)
I want to learn and be job-ready in front-end development as quickly and affordably as possible. I'm thinking about doing the Codecademy /Pro Intensive. Is it worth the money? Is freeCodeCamp just as good? Are there better courses out there for the same price or lower?
Are the free code camp courses good for learning Web development, dsa and other things. Do there certificates have any value Seen some reviews some say they are good for beginners and some say that they create a sort of illusion for you that you are learning something.
Can someone tell me about there experience on it . And also please suggest some good free resources to learn JavaScript and backend Web Dev.
I realize this isn't a new question; but 2023, I begin my programming journey at last. The only problem is; there is so many different sources with which to get your knowledge from. I can't believe I'm saying this but I kind of wish there were LESS options - how dumb, right? I should be happy there's so many options.
Anywho, I'm signed up to a few coding learning sites and I'm sitting here in utter confusion. I have notepads and pens I bought ready. I'm an empty cup ready to be filled with Python-flavoured Lemonade.
FreeCodeCamp is, well, as the name suggests; free. Free is great. But the word 'free' should always be taken with caution. Free means there's compromise, correct? If something is free then it's not as good as it seems to be. is this the case with FreeCodeCamp? Does anyone here know if there are people really that kind and altruistic that they'd design a website and heavy curriculum of classes ABSOLUTELY free for other people to learn with ZERO hidden agenda or reimbursement?And the classes are really well-done and easy to follow?
I'm probably asking too many questions because it's free so I need to not complain about it. I'm just doing the most research I can because I need to pick SOMETHING to learn from.
Now, on the flip-side; there's Codecademy. While not free, looks promising. Plus, because it's paid, that means you get more content, right? More to learn? More promise of getting a job in the programming field? They would have to work extra hard since it's quite pricey so wouldn't they give customers their money's worth?
FreeCodeCamp mentions thousands of people who use it get their first software developer job. And Codecademy from what I've seen, uhhh...doesn't say anything about programming employers picking out Codecademy users who pique their interest and employing them.
BUT IT'S NOT FREE...so it must be good, right?The reason I'm harping on this "not free" thing is because they got a giant sale going on right now (as you can see from the link above) and if I feel like I pass this up, I'll miss a huge opportunity to get a huge deal on something potentially better than FCC.
But, on the flip side, they're a business, and businesses employ tactics like a "holiday deal" that seems huge but it's that price every other time of the year, so they up the price then make you think you're getting in on something good when you're paying regular price. Is this what they're doing? I don't know. Maybe I need to stop thinking about money and just go with FCC.
Truth is, I'm 31 now and I can't afford to not waste my own time with something that won't help me find a job in this field. So, whichever one has the highest success rate and employment rate is the one I'm going for.
ON THE OTHER HAND; I have some classes from CodeWithMosh. Mosh is great and has thorough and well-done classes on different languages. But since they're limited on a set of videos I downloaded (Sorry, Mosh) and not on a website where the learning is seemingly endless....will I learn just as much as I would on the aforementioned sites?
There's also the question if I need to use them at all. There's a wide ocean of knowledge on YouTube (the greatest video platform in the world). FreeCodeCamp even puts their classes on YouTube so I can just quickly search without even going to their websites.The problem with YouTube, however, is that I look up something like "Python for Beginners" and there's thousands of videos. Which one do I pick??! I mean, FCC's classes are HOURS long. So there's a lot I can learn, but who says this guy or girl from this channel has more effective strategies from his/her Python class with a nicely-sized playlist cut up in different parts? Like I said; there's too many options.
Maybe I'm over-thinking everything. Should I just go through different ones, pick one that catches my ears and stick with it? Or just go with FreeCodeCamp 100%?
BUT ON THE OTHER HAND; I'm also registered to sites like 42Heilbronn, w3Schools, GeneralAssembly, CodeNewbie, RealPython and Cisco Identity oh, God, it's too over-whelming!! I'm subscribed to over 100 programming people on YouTube, as well where does it end?!?!?
It's at this point of my thought process that I stop thinking about it and go back to watching stupid videos on YouTube because I get easily over-whelmed with all of this because the first jump is the hardest. It's best for me to not think about this. I'm writing an essay on it, you should see how my brain feels racing 5,000 miles per hour thinking about all of this and my life of laziness and remedial developmental delay-ness.
Ok, I'm out of hands. I'm sorry for this long post, I just needed to get all of this out. Thank you for reading or skimming through all of this, I appreciate it.
All responses are very, very very appreciated. I look forward to one day getting to know all of you.
With love,
Ralph
Hello everyone, I’m a 25 year old janitor. I don’t have any particular talents or skills, so I’ve been looking into trade schools near me recently and that has given me a lot of ads for coding boot camps. Saying things like “get in on this before schools make you pay big for it” , “it’s one of the highest paying coding jobs with only X amount of months training!”, or “you can code from anywhere and make money!”.
They promise a big paycheck, and some say they help you find jobs after the boot camp. Even if you had no experience in coding at ALL before the camp.
It all sounds too good to be true, but I wanted to ask people who might be more in the know? Like is it worth it to pay (in one case I saw a 4,200 price tag) for these lessons. And is the coding industry actually worth getting into with AI becoming a thing now? Especially if you have literally no prior knowledge Sorry if this isn’t the right place to ask.
Good evening,
I am somewhat new in the programming world. Have did a few websites for family and friends (WordPress templates with minor HTML work). Besides that, nothing else.
I am about to start college for IT at WGU. I would do Computer Science, however, I think IT with programming experience would be more ideal.
Just purchased the Coding with Mosh monthly subscription since I heard he is good when it comes to explaining to new people in the programming world.
I also heard of Free Code Camp.
Does anyone know of some boot camps that will teach me how to code from 0 to 100? Does not have to be free per say. Thanks!
Hello all, I know the general consensus right now is that bootcamps are not worth it in this market, but if you just had to choose one to attend, which one would you choose? So far from what I've read in this sub and from some research, Rithm, Codesmith, and Launch school would be my candidates but curious to see what people think.
Edit for a bit of context: I have an unrelated degree (biology) and work as an EMT. Was planning to continue in healthcare but wanted to explore opportunities in tech. Been self studying for about 6 months, almost done with Harvard's cs50, and about 3/4 done with codesmith's csx. I have a flexible timeline but of course, the earlier I can get into the industry the better. This post was mostly to see what other "reputable" bootcamps were out there that I haven't considered, and what people had to say about them. Also considering MSCS but thought maybe I take a risk and do a bootcamp first
I'd go to WGU, and get a cs degree in one term or 6 months for $4k, using Sophia Learning and study.com to finish over half my degree before I even start.
If I had to choose a coding boot camp, I'd choose it based on my current skill level, personal goals, and my timeline. Even though the syllabus often looks the same, it's not what they teach - but how and why they teach it that matters most. And you don't really get to choose your timeline. But you can figure out what time you actually have to give.
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If I was already pretty good at making websites and knew HTML and CSS and JavaScript
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wanted to level up from self-teaching, or my current stagnant jr dev job - or freelancing
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was 100% committed to becoming a general 'software engineer' at any place I could find
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it was very important for me to try and get into a more senior role and pay level a my first job
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I'd thrive in a fast-paced environment with lots of pairing and group work and really just a strong momentum figuring things out as a team
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I wanted to have a job as fast as possible (and I knew I was going to go above and beyond the course work) (and with a little luck) (and some related work history)
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I was OK relying on my group capstone project and resume and not building out a portfolio of work (because this type of job wouldn't care about that)
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Willing to end up at a job/role that had very high expectations of me to start (and that's why I'd be getting the high salary)
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If I really need accountability via groups and video attendance
I'd choose CodeSmith. Or maybe Turing. It would depend on my personality. I don't really trust Rithm. They say on their website that they are the only school with Daily Code Reviews, Real World Projects, and Ethical Admissions - which is just a lie. Also, I generally think that a 16 week school where the whole last 4 weeks are spent on "Intensive Job Prep" isn't playing the right game anymore. Tricking yourself into a job - isn't going to work. But I haven't met any Rithm grads. I have however met lots of Turing and CodeSmith grads and I trust them to do what they promise there.
Also, I think I'll add that for the right people in the right position, a finishing school like Formation might be a good choice. That's honestly what would probably best fill in my specific gaps (but I've already been a developer for 12 years).
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If I preferred to go at my own pace
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I soak up written curriculum
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I like to learn things deeply and slowly
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If I was comfortable with it taking a year or more likely 2
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If I wasn't sure I really loved programming yet and wanted a fair way to try it without signing up for a contract or loan
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If I wanted the option of having a more intense capstone project but I wasn't sure yet -
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if I had very little money but plenty of time
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If I didn't want to sit in a classroom of people on zoom for 4-8 hours a day watching a lecture that could have been a short video
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If I didn't like watching videos
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If I read all the materials on their website and felt like it really spoke to me
I'd choose Launch School
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If I wanted to learn how to design and build web applications
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If I was OK waiting 4 months to learn JavaScript
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If I wanted to spend a lot more time with visual design and design thinking
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If I wanted a chance to learn more about different roles other than general software dev
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If I was comfortable with it taking 9 months and then probably 3 more months to find a job - and that it would probably be something more specific and niche
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If I wanted to have a single dedicated mentor for the entire time period who was guiding me based on my goals and the roles and projects that I was most interested in (even if that turned out to be UI or UX)
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If I wanted to maintain my full-time job / and only had 3 hours a day, or if I had more time to give but a variable schedule
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If I didn't want to be in mandatory daily Zoom calls every day - and instead wanted a lot more one-on-one time with the instructor.
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If I like videos more than live lectures and I want to rewind and rewatch instead of asking questions mid-lecture
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If i wanted to be building a portfolio from day one, to start a business, start an agency, or build a Saas
I'd choose Perpetual Education (the school I run).
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If I wanted to deeply learn computer science
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If I already had a job
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If I was going for a very high-paying job
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If I knew I had a lot of grit and could handle very challenging problems without giving up
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If I was less interested in the visual design of things
I'd choose Watch and Code.
(I'd probably choose this over a CS degree)
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You'll note that all of the schools mentioned here have publically known leaders with an actual stance on education.
These schools do what they do best. Which one is best for you will depend on you. Anyone who doesn't understand that a school or boot camp is just a tool - (and that ultimately only you will be responsible for the outcome) - should be very wary of the marketing. If you're betting that "the best" boot camp will make you a software developer, you're wrong. Pick the school that will act as a force multiplier, and you might have a chance.
I’m currently learning on Codecademy, but I’m losing momentum and drive because I can’t hold myself accountable. I’ve been thinking about going to a boot camp so I’m practically forced to learn. Anybody have experience with a boot camp or suggestions for a new approach? I really want a good job and I’m tired of being stuck in retail. Help!
Hello! I have a bit of a unique background and I am really trying to figure out the best path to take to become a software developer (I know there is no one best path, but I need some clarity).
A bit of background: I graduated college at 18 with my degree in math, I usually excel at learning very quickly, and I know how to code intermediately in C++ and Python. I am currently working through CS 50 through Harvard and have been averaging about a week every day or two. I also started a P.h.D program this spring, but absolutely did not get along with my advisor, so I made the decision to leave as it was not good for me or my mental health.
With some of that out of the way, I am now working some part time tutoring jobs (not too many hours, just like 10 per week) to pay my bills while working towards my career in software development. I have been reading and seeing so many vastly different posts and videos about the various paths the break into the field that it is getting quite confusing. I have seen many people having great success after coming from a bootcamp and many people having great success after doing completely self-taught. I have the money to pay for the bootcamp, but it would leave me with very little as a nest egg to pay my bills (therefore, I am nervous as to whether it is worth it). I think the idea of having a predefined structure and guidance is very nice, but also the cost is a big deterrent. I usually learn well on my own, it's just a matter of being motivated enough to put in the 8-10 hours a day.
Clearly the bootcamp has its pros, but my main question is: how much more reliable would it be to do a bootcamp than go the self taught route?
My main plan currently is to finish up the CS 50 coursework, go through freecodecamp and do their certificates for web development, work on CodeWars problems, and watch some youtube videos. Then work on building some projects for a portfolio and start applying.
If I am extremely self-motivated and put in a good amount of time each day, would it be worth paying the 15k or whatever a bootcamp would cost, or would it be a better idea to learn on my own? Is the self-taught general path I have outlined a good path to getting a developer job?
Also if my main goal is to work at Google or some other big company, would going through a bootcamp give me a shot to work there straight out of the gate? Or would I need to start in a junior role and then make the jump after a few years anyway?
Thank you in advance, like I said I just feel so overwhelmed with all the information out there and I want to make a good decision for my future.
EDIT 1 Year Later:
I was just curious about the timeline of my coding journey and came across this old post! I ended up going with The Odin Project and it was an amazing choice. I started right around a year ago from now (after finishing CS50) and got a SE1 job that started in April of 2023. I had a rough 3 months of burnout last year, but had a series of lucky events that helped me land this job! I started tutoring for the company I am now working for in August of 2022 and they were amazing. In January, I happened to see they were hiring a software engineer and so I applied and went through their 8 interview segments and happened to get the job! Now I am 4 months in and am seriously having such an amazing time. I am on track to get promoted at the end of this year and have been really excelling on all the projects I am working on. I just want to say thank you so much to everyone who steered me away from a bootcamp and who pointed me towards The Odin Project. I understand that not going to a bootcamp may not be the right decision for everyone, but for me it most definitely was. My life definitely would not be the same without the advice that some of you gave to me, so thank you, thank you, thank you.
Coding bootcamp: -97% job placement -$77K ave starting salary
Udacity: -Money back guarantee -No pants required ≈EIGHTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS CHEAPER
Anyone work with a bootcamp grad/online learner? Who gets better jobs/is more prepared for software engineering?
Both have their negatives and positives.
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Bootcamps give guidance and some offer recruitment assistance. However, they teach students just enough to be dangerous.
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Online MOOCs are the cheaper alternative, though you miss out on networking and encountering real problems that a co-student/colleague may find a solution too.
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One online MOOC isn't enough. Code School, Codecademy, and FreeCodeCamp will leave you hanging on fundamentals in Comp Sci, so a verity of support sites such as edX, Udemy, and Pluralsight are needed to supplement each other. The cost is still lower compared to a camp with four to five subscriptions.
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Networking and being adamant about building a portfolio is key. Only using online courses may not spark this emphasis and the student is at the mercy of their own motivation. A Bootcamp may have the upper hand here, but that is why Redditors here suggest signing up for Meetup.com and join a group in a specific stack to help make them learn and network.
Seems to me that if you are going to fork out $18K you would be better off just enrolling in a state funded universities CS department. Also the $77K average starting salary for your first role as a developer seems crazy high to me unless you are in a city with a thriving tech industry (i.e. probably bay area only).
There are now many ways to learn programming coding bootcamps, online courses, university degrees, and self-study.
Some people say bootcamps provide structure, mentorship, and faster learning.
Others believe self-learning gives more flexibility and encourages deeper understanding.
For people who have gone through either path:
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Do bootcamps actually improve job prospects?
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Can self-taught developers compete equally in the job market?
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What factors matter most when choosing how to learn programming today?
Curious to hear different experiences and perspectives.
Which one do you recommend me to learn html/css/js ?
I saw a video with a guy saying that learning the three in codeacademy is great and another one saying to learn html/css in freecodecamp then js on udemy
What do you guys think about it ?
I'd really like to get into coding, and for me and my temperament it will involve shelling over some hard-earned cash to a bootcamp or something similar like Launch School. Also, something outside of the American university system. It is extremely difficult to filter out what schools are actually reputable and worthy of time and money. There is so much conflicting info and fake news. I understand that every person will have a different experience but I think it is safe to say there are coding centers that are good and bad. Can someone offer up which ones are actually safe and which ones are absolutely not worthy? I would be willing to create a master list with various info topics if we can get some input. Thank you.
For those who have dabbled with both, which did you prefer and why?
Off the hop, the Udemy course doesn't use an interactive virtual console like FCC does. (gives me codecademy nightmares) and uses real tools that you have to work with. This, I like.
However, free is free. I don't have a CC to pay for Udemy right now so there would be a lot of effort associated with getting things together to register for the course.
I know both are talked about highly around here, but if you could pick one, which would you do?