Hi!
I'm looking for an alternative to Google Workspace for a small business.
Currently we have 3 workspace accounts. We need 8 more email accounts under our domain but with it being €6,90 a month per account that's already €75,90 a month.
I think we'll just hire some mail server to host the mail but I'm looking for a selfhosted solution for everything else (including a webmail client).
I found nextcloud which seemed promising, but the mail client in it is not good (and the mobile layout isn't good either; it integrates well on Android through WebDAV though). The snappymail and roundcube integrations don't cut it either. I also don't like that calendar invitations are all sent out from the same email address for all users, with only the reply-to address being different.
Zimbra seems good but it's also a mailserver in itself, which I don't want to host myself.
We have at least the following specific requirements:
-Good modern layout
-Proper text editor for mails
-Scheduling a time to send an email
-Adding signatures to emails
-Email templates
-Calendars with shared write access
-Calendar syncable to phones and other applications
-Calendar invitations sent from the user's email (also when being made on a phone)
-Contacts
-Creating and sharing forms (alternative for Google forms)
-File sharing feature would be nice to have but not necessary
-Everything accessible from one place (email, calendar, contacts, etc.)
I work the tech at a small start up and, since we started, have been trying to get us off G Suite. To do that, I'm going to need to make compelling cases to my coworkers. Basically, I need some suggestions for replacing G Suite for the non-tech folks. I'm trying to appeal to cost and reliability without losing ease-of-use, because that's all they really hear. We really only use Gmail and Drive, so those are the two that I need solutions for. My current idea is Tutanota for email (which is stunningly cheap and encrypted) and a self-hosted Nextcloud for everything else. Together, they will save us a bit of cash, but I'm struggling to make the case for reliability here as adding another server under my purview will take my take away from more pressing tech issues. Id prefer something like Nuclino, which I don't have to host, but the cheapest non-free plan is far pricier than G Suite.
Any ideas, friends?
Been searching for this for a long time. You can use different services for different things, but nothing is as convenient as google. I have a small company and I switched us over to Tutanota for email and from google docs to office 365. No office is not the most private, but it is secure and it’s not google. There are other office services out there, but have sketchy associations and/or use google analytics. But every company I work with is on slack/google/zoom. It’s infuriating.
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Finally biting the bullet and moving my personal domains to a better provider. Currently I have one with Google G-Suite (2 accounts), and one with O365 (1 account), but have a domain with about 10 accounts which needs to be moved.
Cost is an issue, so is security and reliability. MS and Google do well on the security/reliability front, not so great on the cost front once you have more than a couple of accounts. Email is the most important service, everything else is 'nice to have'.
Happy to consider 'novel' solutions.
EDIT: Current list of options
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Exchange or G-Suite with aliases/shared boxes
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Zoho (free up to 25 mailboxes)
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MXroute.com
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Migadu
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Protonmail
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Hover.com
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thexyz.com
and I discovered, Rackspace email hosting which is $2/user/month or less than half cost of Google/MS.
Assuming I've been soaked in Google G Suite / Workspace for the last decade, what are the Open Source alternatives that can seriously provide equivalent functionality across email and, more challengingly, collaboration tools?
Has anyone gone through a migration to a system that isn't Microsoft Office 365?
Thanks to this sub I just learned that the free tier of G Suite is shutting down. Unfortunately I need some help finding some alternatives as frankly I never thought I'd need to know alternatives.
I only use it for my personal email (about 5 accounts at a custom domain). I don't use any of the other Google features, so those aren't a huge loss. I can't justify $360 a year just for email hosting from Google, but I would like to have a 3rd party host. I'm not interested in self hosting email at this point. I loved Google because it was easy for my family members, so hopefully I can find a more affordable service that still has good usability.
Any recommendations? Looks like Zoho and MX-Relay are popular. Any opinions?
I'm pretty bummed with Google doing this. One more nail in the Google coffin for me. YouTube will be all that's left that I use. Hopefully I can port my account over to a new spam Gmail account...
Just got a notification that my Workspace price was going up, so I logged in and the price is more than doubling. What was $6/month/user, is now $14.40/month/user. And Dec its going up to $18/month/user. Thats an astronomical increase. For a small business that uses mainly email, chat (hangouts via gmail in browser) and docs - what are some alternatives??
When I signed up for gsuite, it was literally ONLY to have a place to use my personal email address. I have never used anything other than the email functionality of it.
At the time it cost $5 a month in local currency (Australia). Now it's $8.60. (Constant price increases).
That might be great value if you use everything, but it's way too much just for email.
So can someone tell me of a free (or much cheaper) and reliable email provider where I can keep my current email?
And just in case I'm being too hasty, what can I do with a paid Gsuite membership that I haven't been taking advantage of?
If Google doesn't come up with an option/plan with a reasonable price I will need to look at other options.
Wishlist:
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Custom domain
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Email - multiple accounts
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integrated + working calendar
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Webmail with search
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Secure, and as privacy oriented as possible
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Preferably dedicated Android and IOS apps
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Not required Godaddy domain hosting
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Good privacy record
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Not too costly / user account
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Some free aliases / groups
Does this spell Fastmail, Tutanota, or something else?
My GSuite Basic Plan is set to double in price over the next 24 months. Does anyone know of any comparable alternatives for Gmail and Drive? Currently investigating Microsoft solutions but would like more candidates to evaluate. My requirements are for 2 user plan with more than 30gb storage each.
After googling a bit I was unable to find a satisfactory answer, so perhaps you fine people have a suggestion.
My current situation is as follows.
Old style G Suite account (from the days when it was still free).
1 primary domain, 2 allias domains
approx 7 "users". (actually 1 actual inbox, the rest are basically alias accounts).
My current situation keeps me a little bit too exposed for my liking in the event Google decides to change the game. I use 3 email addresses that I use for everything (for the past 10 years). 1 is linked to the primary domain (lastname@primarydomain) and 2 are linked to 2 domain aliasses ([email protected] and [email protected]). Mail send to the alias domains ends up in the inbox of the primary domain. All other "users" are not important (things like "Webshops@, netflix@ that I use to prevent spam).
I am looking for a more stable situation where I can do roughly the same as described above.
Cloud based email, around 10 gigs in inbox space.
1 primary domain, 2 alias domains
Main from alias domains goes to primary domain, preverably with the option to use "send-as" when replying.
Stable situation (as in, relatively future proof from a reputable organization).
I'm more than willing to pay a reasonable fee, however in the current setup I am unsure if this is possible with a paid Gsuite account unless I pay for a whole bunch of "users".
I had a quick look at Office 365 (I already use O365, but not with my own domain), and I'm not sure if it is possible to set up the above situation.
note: I am not eager to host my own solution.
I hope the above is clear.
Thank you very kindly.
Office 365 will do that. Engage their support for help.
You can do POP / IMAP hosting, with a larger company for ease of support, or you can do Exchange. With hosted exchange you can do it through a provider OR you can do Office 365. With Office 365 you can do it through a reseller who abstracts a certain amount of the work away or you can do it directly through Microsoft.
I would suggest using Office 365 directly. Setting up a primary and additional domains is easy, as is setting up aliases either directly or by using distribution groups or shared mailboxes. Sending from those aliases is similarly easy.
If you only have one actual user, and you only need the email portion, you can use one Business Essentials seat, so $60 / year.
I am not interested in paid email. I have free forever with Google Apps now called G Suite. Since Google made it paid, and more importantly since I do not trust Google and do not want them to have my data, I want to fully move over. I now use Protonmail for most emails and no longer give out my domain emails so I can use protonmail, but I do not want to pay for Protonmail domain email which is too expensive, it would be $25 per month for my usage.
I'm leaning toward Yandex. I don't care about all the people afraid of Russia. I actually trust Russia and the KGB far more than I trust Google or the NSA. Yandex is fully free and I already have a domain account there, but I haven't set up my MX records because I wasn't settled on it yet.
Is Yandex as good as Google Apps domain email? I couldn't find a compare and contrast.
I am using Tutanota.
Lots of people recommend Zoho. I believe there's a free option. However, if you read their official forums it's plain to see that they regularly read users' emails. They even reference specific emails by subject when discussing issues with users. I once got an account with them and immediately closed it after noticing that.
I dare to ask, even if it is a bit controversial.
After have been benefiting of the free tier for some years, the account was converted to a small business plan. I have my own domain, but we are only two users, that uses it for our private email and calendar.
After the latest increase of prices, I think it has become to much for the family email, but is there any alternatives?
The “competition” with their family plan, no longer offer the use of your own email domain, in order to do so, they also force you over to their businesses plan, which oddly enough, cost about the same as G business suite.
If this is not the place for such a discussion, what other reddits would be suitable.
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According to Google, the billing and support services for Google Workspace (including G Suite) subscriptions currently billed by Google Domains will be managed by Squarespace.
That is a big betrayal to Google customers and a huge no-no.
Does anyone know any service comparable good besides Microsoft's that an organization (or organizations) can use to replace Google Workspace?
I understand that each GW service can be individually migrated to such a service.
But it will be good to have something that can take care of most of them.
The fact that workspace accounts sold via google Domains were handled by a different team was always very strange.
I think it is a bit of an over reaction to port out all of your data over this (also a pain and an expense)
I would just move to direct:
https://support.google.com/domains/answer/6313560?hl=en#zippy=%2Ctransfer-your-account-from-google-domains
It probably sweetened the deal for Squarespace to get those users too / some kind of commission on each account. I don't see them taking that on without getting something for it.
Seems a strange overreaction. All you are doing is dynamiting the lobby simply because your account is to be passed from one reseller to another. Nothing else is likely to change.
I have to get Google out of my life. I am really starting to see how evil the company is and how much of a stranglehold it has on the world.
Also, how do you move IMAP email to a new service?
There's plenty of discussion online of what apps to use instead of Google Workspace, but in my experience, they always fail to take into account the whole of what Google Workspace is.
It is incorrect to say Google Workspace is an office suite, or a document collaboration provider, or a notebook. Google Workspace is an integrated combination of these aspects. As such, replacements like OnlyOffice, or online notebooks without document collaboration are not actually replacements/alternatives (imo).
The closest alternative I've found is Cryptpad, but A) I can't test what the document editor is like (to see it's any good) without paying and B) This is more nitpicky, but I can't work with OnlyOffice spreadsheets. The way my spreadsheets are made requires there to be finite rows/cols. Also, images don't work in OnlyOffice on Cryptpad.
There's also Standard Notes, but I can't tell if it supports document collaboration or not, and I don't think I can test with the free demo. There's also also Peergos drive with spreadsheet plugins. However, the main one they have is Luckysheets, which as of iirc March 2024 is no longer maintained. Luckysheets now says to use Univer for spreadsheets (on their read-only github), but I checked them out and they are super new and seem suspect to me. Their privacy policy has vague-ish terms for providing data to third parties, and their YouTube channel seems like its made entirely with ai.
tldr: What do you all recommend for Google Workspace alternatives?
Dear community,
I am paying too much for 4 users for Google Workspace, I don't use it for business just for home use. I am paying something like USD 450 a year.
I am thinking of moving away from them and migrating most of my storage to my private home NAS (Maybe Synology, still not decided), leveraging the good connectivity I have at home symmetric 1 Gbps or even I can upgrade to 10 Gbps for USD 10 more per month in (Switzerland).
One alternative I was looking at to move email was ProtonMail, but their family plan is a bit salty too.
So another alternative I was thinking was to use Free Gmail accounts, and configure my custom domains on a standard hosting and auto-redirect to the different free Gmail accounts. Then get a Google One subscription to have more storage for Email and Google Drive for the cloud stuff.
Any other ideas you may have? Cons? Pros? Thanks for sharing your thoughts!
Long time lurker of this subreddit, I love the idea of ditching Google but some things they do quite well. In my case, I'm using their Google Workspace service (previously known as Gsuite), where for about £4/user/month, I have access to a fully managed email service with a custom domain support - this is what I'm looking for. What are the alternatives? What are the services you guys are using?
I have a server already but managing an email client, trying to keep it up to date, staying off blacklists, managing anti-virus, configuring mail delivery/transfer agents to fit my environment. Props to those who are fluent in those technologies, but I am not a back-end genie.
Thanks for any help, I'm open to suggestions.
Edit:
Thank you for all those who have commented. An important aspect for the transition, is the security and privacy of course, and that is why I'll try ProtonMail for a year or so. I really wanted to avoid Microsoft 365 even though it is the primary alternative to Google Workspace feature-wise. For ~$5/user/month for Fastmail and ProtonMail, I have email support with a custom domain. For my use case, the significant difference is the lower storage, ProtonMail offers 5GB of storage compared to Fastmail's 30GB. Where ProtonMail seems to excel at is the end-to-end encryption, a security aspect that isn't offered in Fastmail. I'm going to commit on a monthly basis and see how it goes, still open to alternatives.
Edit 2:
After some researching, ProtonMail's encryption is somewhat limited. Intra-domain (e.g. ProtonMail to Gmail) email sending requires a password for full end-to-end encryption, meaning you need the recipient to input a password to see the email body (official source). Even then, the meta-data, most significantly the email header, isn't encrypted.
For me, the main focus is the emailing clients (not emailing within a company). I won't be asking the client to enter a password to see an email, so the encryption aspect loses a lot of the appeal.