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Hey everyone! Since the Wooting 80HE is finally in people's hands, I thought it would be helpful to showcase a sound test of some of the most popular Hall Effect switches so you can find the perfect match for your preferred sound and feel!

In this video, we’ll be testing:

Lekker Switches (V2)
Black Knight Switches
TTC King of Magnetic Switch
OG Jades, Jade Pros, & Jade Max
Geon RAW HE

Stem Wobble Comparison:
The V2 Lekker switches have tighter tolerances but still a bit wobbly in my opinion.
Black Knights have a box stem but are also somewhat wobbly.
The TTCs have almost no horizontal wobble, but vertical wobble is similar to the Lekkers and Black Knights.
OG Jades show almost no vertical wobble and a bit of horizontal wobble.
Jade Pros have a small amount of both horizontal and vertical wobble.
Jade Max has almost no vertical wobble and just a tiny bit of horizontal wobble.
The Geon RAW HE overall has the least stem wobble, with a bit of vertical but almost no horizontal wobble.
RGB Compatibility:
When it comes to handling RGB in both South and North-facing directions, the Jade Max stands out as the clear winner — the installation direction doesn't seem to matter much.

Factory Lube Comparison:
Lekker Switches: Rails are lubed, and there’s a small amount of lube at the bottom of the spring.
Black Knights: Only the rails are lubed, with the spring appearing dry.
TTC Magnetos: Only the bottom of the spring is lubed, and the rest is completely dry.
OG Jade: Rails are lubed, but the spring is dry.
Jade Pros & Jade Max: Both are fully lubed at every contact point (all around the Stem + Rails) including the stem pole.
Geon RAW HE: A bit of lube on the rails, with most on the stem pole.

My Personal Favorites:
I really enjoy the Jade Pros and Geon RAWs, but I also appreciate the deeper clack of the Jade Max. The Black Knight switches and Lekkers feel good, but they tend to have a “dead” sound typical of Hall Effect switches, however if you don't care about sound these will be totally fine. As for the TTC Magnetos, I’d rank them in the middle—they feel better than the Lekkers and Black Knights, but the plasticky sound isn’t for me.

Hi all

I've been posting for a bit now, and I see a lot of the brands making Hall Effect keyboards. I get the gaming benefits with rapid trigger and setting actuation points. But besides gaming, why would someone use it for, let's say, filling in Excels, design work, content creation, etc? Would a regular mechanical be worth more?

How is the type, sound and feel of the HE boards in general? I'm used to typing on my old Ducky Shine 3 :D

Cheers!

Hi,

im quite new in this keyboard thing. I would love to buy a new and fast gaming keyboard which is wired (has wireless too) and has some creamy / thocky switches. It would be great if it has hall effect and other good features for gaming.

I went through some research and came to the akko 007 HE - what I dont like is the clicky sound at all. The web is overblown with possibilities but I am not able to find the perfect keyboard. I would be able to mod it on my own - but tbh honest finding a stock one would be awesome.

So here we go:

a) It should have thocky / creamy switches (see here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CorB0q9QImw)
b) 75% with F-keys
c) Design wise i like it clean and white and i do love some japanese accents!
d) Rapid trigger / hall effect

Anyone has an idea which keyboard suits best here?

Budget: 250 Euros

Thanks!

I see many new commercial keyboards are using Hall Effect switches, even switches that you can buy separately like the Gateron KS-20. Some questions:

• Does QMK and ZMK supports HE switches (with the correct MCU/PCB)? I see the upcoming "Keychron Q1 HE" runs QMK so maybe yes?

• Somebody tried using combos with HE switches? With standard switches, you get a stream of KEY_ON/KEY_OFF events so you need to time delays to distinguish between a sequence of keys pressed and multiple keys pressed "at the same time". But with HE switches you can correlate when multiple keys are traveling down at the same time (so if one is past his activation point but is traveling up then it won't be a combo). So they seem perfect for combos.

• There are open source PCBs/designs out there for them? I know about the impressive AHEK95 "Void Keyboard" with custom 3D printed HE switches, but there are PCBs for commercial HE switches like the Gateron KS-20?

• There are other HE switches than the Gateron KS-20 that you can buy separately?

• Somebody tried Mousekeys with HE switches? Maybe it will be better than a trackpoint?

• Can you use the trampoline mod on HE switches to shorten total travel distance?

• Do you think that this community will migrate in masse to HE switches? :)

EDIT: Also HE switches can be great for Hold/Tap discrimination (MOD_TAP), because you can interpret a key travelling up after the activation point as a tap, without the need for waiting until the reset point is crossed.

What do you think about magnetic keyboards?
The main question is, can magnetic keyboards have a place in our hobby?

Nowadays, they are being shouted about from all corners, what it is a great blessing.
Here my story. I got one. I played around with the actuation point setting for about a week. I don't know why and what it gave me. It's just the only new feature for me. And then I returned it to the standard 2.0 mm)
And the most annoying thing is that the keyboard sounds bad, even though it has 3 basic layers of noise insulation. I've heard all magnetic keyboards sound worse than mechanical ones. Is that true? And I can't make many modifications, lay some switch pads, or anything like that, because its affects the accuracy. Also looks like HE keyboards doesnt have gasket mount or flex cuts. I can't replace the switches here. Well, technically it supports hot swap and there are several different magnetic switches on the market and... they are all linear, it's clear why. They all have about the same actuation force. This is incomparable to the number and variety of switches for traditional mechanical keyboards. I even thought if the hot swap socket breaks it's easy to replace, and if the sensor breaks here? Is that all?

And I felt like I was locked up like in a prison with this keyboard. Damn it... I got some cool new silent tactile switches and my first thought was if I had another mechanical keyboard right now instead of this magnetic one I would install these switches there. What do I have now? I played around with adjusting the actuation point and that's all I can do with this keyboard.

So I got the impression that magnetic keyboards are completely unsuitable for our hobby. They are just one-way gaming tools, unlike traditional mechanical keyboards that have room for customization and flexibility.

Share your thoughts, maybe I have the wrong impression.