I will be building my first gaming PC soon and I just wanted to know the difference and new features in am5
Also am5 will be a bit more expensive of course
And I want anyone that answers to just explain to me
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Current build: 58003xd, 5080, 4k monitor
I managed to get a 5080 and it runs what i need perfectly. MFG is like black magic once optimized. Single player games are amazing. Online games are great as well without it.
But i got curious, how much of an FPS boost if i upgrade/switch to AM5? Im thinking of a 78003xd or 98003xd? Is it even worth it?
Like many of you, I was planning to build a new PC in the near future. With memory shortages, I decided to skip AM5 altogether since I mostly play older titles. Instead I upgraded my current build.
Original build assembled in summer of 2020:
CPU - Ryzen 5 3600 w/ stock cooler (never changed thermal paste)
GPU - Gygabyte GeForce GTX 1660 Super (6 GB VRAM)
MB - ASUS X570-Plus Wifi ATX
RAM - 2x16 GB DDR4 3600 CL 16
Upgrades (today):
Ryzen 5 3600 -> Ryzen 7 5800xt w/ Thermalright CPU Cooler (and fresh thermal paste)
GTX 1660 Super -> RTX 5070 (12 GBVRAM)
New PSU
Comparisons:
Machine Learning python scripts (CPU dependent)
Random Forest Classifier Loop
Old build: 133.04 secs to complete
Upgraded: 64.81 secs to complete
Support Vector Machine Loop
Old build: 3.90 secs
Upgraded: 2.32 sec
Red Dead Redemption 2
All settings set to "High" with 4k resolution
Old build: min, 27.5395 max, 35.0910 avg, 31.1016
New cpu, Old GPU: min, 31.7672 max, 34.3361 avg, 33.4183
Upgraded: min, 93.7682 max, 118.458 avg, 106.946
Verdict:
I am shocked at how much faster (up to 50% faster) the script ran with the new CPU. I wonder if the differences were caused primarily by the 2 additional cores, the higher clock speed, or the new thermal paste/cooler. The new CPU also gave me a couple of extra FPS gaming, but the differences were negligible. Maybe it would have been more noticeable in other titles.
I could not justify spending ~$400 for the 5800x3d or 5700x3d CPU, so I settled on the 5800xt. The GPU might be bottlenecked by it, but I am still very happy with the results.
I need a fast computer for work, and I need Nvidia for CUDA cores. A new build would have cost me ~$1500, so I saved a few hundred dollars. I hope this post helps those that are on the AM4/AM5 fence.
Notes:
Don't be like me, and update BIOS before switching CPU to avoid the headache. Don't forget to increase RAM speed after updating BIOS because it defaults back to 2200 mHz after update. Remove all old drivers with DDU before installing latest driver for new GPU. Upgrading CPU broke a few things. I had to do a lot of troubleshooting, or find work arounds to get everything working again (specifically Miniconda and registries). I expect to find more things broken in the near future.
Hello there,
So, the AM5 socket is going to bring PCIe 5.0, DDR5 support and of course, new chipsets (X670, B650s and others). It's believed to be launching this summer if I'm correct.
When this new socket does eventually come out, I'm planning on getting a 7700X , (if that ever launches) since I don't really need the extra punch the X800 class brings, with a new X670 CH9 from Asus.
My main concern with this is: I've seen how badly AMD messed up with first gen Ryzen bios compatibility, so I'm fearing they'll do the same with this new socket which will pretty much ruin my upgradability. So do you think they learned their lesson and do better this time, or will they make the same mistake again?
Thanks.
if you have older than AM4 or are on intel right now then i would suggest to wait for AM5 yes.
AMD of 2022 is not the same as the near bankrupt AMD of 2017. I dont expect the same level of teething issues with AM5 when it releases.
Just be aware that by waiting for AM4 and Zen 4 you are going to be paying premium when they launch. Think double what a nice Zen 3 AM4 rig will likely cost around the same time frame. AMD are not going to be shrinking back on their MSRPs unless Intel pulls out something SERIOUSLY special with Raptor Lake. Alder Lake has barely moved the needle for Zen 3 so far. Prices are just starting to come down a bit, but still nowhere near the amount that Zen 1 or Zen 2 dropped in the same timeframe.