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I'm noticing Ryzen Master sometimes showing my 5800x running up to 10 degrees cooler. I was a bit worried about the readings in HWMonitor, but if Ryzen Master is telling the truth, my thermals aren't so bad after all.
Have no idea why HWMonitor is reporting incorrect temps. Ryzen Master appears to be showing the accurate temps.
On Ryzen master, it displays my temperatures for my CPU to be lower (about 40-50C idle) contrasting that to CPUID HWMonitor showcasing it to be 10C higher (50-60C); is one more accurate than the other?
Since the launch of the Zen2 family, there appeared numerous questions regarding the meaning and reliability of several parameters reported by different tools due to different methods used to retrieve operating parameters. With the recent updates to Ryzen Master (RM) the confusion has grown even bigger as no other tool was able to match the same values reported officially. AMD has issued several clarifications explaining the meaning and reasons for the way why and how these parameters are reported in RM. The most important point was that modern CPUs are very dynamic and their parameters can change hundreds of times per second. A rate with which no software is able to cope to sufficiently represent such a dynamic behavior. I fully agree with these statements and hence, HWiNFO has recently undergone several significant changes in order to better reflect such system dynamics with respect to the above requirements.
The first important addition was reporting of the Effective Clock which does much better reflect the highly dynamic CPU clocks including sleeping states. This has been explained in more detail here: https://www.hwinfo.com/forum/threads/effective-clock-vs-instant-discrete-clock.5958/
Today (pure coincidentally on the Thanksgiving Day), HWiNFO in version 6.15-4020 Beta is introducing reporting of several additional parameters that have been asked by the community:
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CPU Die (average) temperature. This temperature should be covering CPU execution cores only and the value is an average across a certain interval to avoid reporting of undesirable instant peaks. It should be on par with the temperature reported by RM.
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PPT, TDC and EDC limits and actual values along with percentage of the actual limit.
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Infinity Fabric Clock (FCLK). This value should now be reported on all Zen2-based systems (in the past it was available in some special cases only).
Availability of these new values depends on BIOS/firmware version, so make sure to upgrade to the latest versions. Ryzen Master is not required to be installed.
Martin
HWiNFO Author
This is fantastic. Many thanks Martin.
Hi Martin thanks for the update.
I dont know if anyone else has this issue with HWINFO but for me it causes issues with my Corsair AIO when I open the sensor page. Causes my pump and fans to constantly reset and the RGB to get all messed up and flicker or freeze.
I dont have this issue with Ryzen master but unfortunately that has far less sensor data available and I would love to use HWinfo for benchmarking.
I have Ryzen 9 3900X. X570 Taichi. Corsair H100i platinum SE and yes Im using iCUE. Although the issues still happen when iCUE has been completely stopped in task manager. Its a little scary to hear my pump turn off for a second then restart. Does it every 15-30 seconds or so when I open sensor page in HWinfo.
I have a AMD 5950X and AMD Ryzen Master says my idle temp is 33C while HWMonitor says my idle temp is 43C. I don't know which one to trust.
https://imgur.com/a/bAoRIRc
Ryzen master consistently reports temps around 10 c lower than hwmonitor. highest temp reported by ryzen master that i've seen is 81, while hwmonitor consistently reports maxes of 90 - all safe temps (safe operating temp is 95) and i havent had any functional issues but i'd like to know whats going on. Are the two apps reading from different sensors? My system has never thermal throttled.
edit: i did some digging and it looks like early ryzens had a 20c offset applied to them in ryzen master which would explain differences there, but mine is a 3600 and the offset is nowhere near 20. also the offset was quickly accounted for in updates for 3rd party monitoring apps
I have been trying to figure out the temps on my 3700x but that seems to be quite the task since every software I try gives different readings. I have tried Ryzen Master, HWInfo and HW Monitor. Before I try Speccy I thought I'd ask what software is the most accurate an reading temps.
The problem is that Ryzen Master report idle temps at 35-37, HWINfor says its 30-33 and HWMonitor says its 39-41. It gets even crazier under load. In Battlefield V RM says max temp at around 70-73, HWInfo ended on 65 and HWMonitor went all the way up to 80.
I'd like to think RM is the most accurate considering it comes from AMD but I dont like the software since I cant seem to get a log saying what max temp is and when alt tabbing the temp do change a few degrees so I have no chance to get the correct max temp. On the two others it says Max temp so I do not need to alt tab all the time trying to find where the cpu ends up. I have kind of ruled out HWMonitor since the case fans doesnt go up to 100% when HWMonitor report 80 degrees.
So anyone have any idea which software really is the most accurate?
And are there any way to get a log out of RM?
The CPU has been designed to operate based on the raw tCTL temperature, and that what HWInfo and many other applications are showing. Averaging the reading might be viable for some scenarios, but thats pretty much pointless since everything (fan control, thermal protection) operates raw temperature basis. You could just as well hide the temperature reading altogether in case you are not interested in the actual temperature...
HWInfo and Ryzen Master.