This issue seems to be a growing complaint with the 13 Pro series. It seems like the main problems are caused by the extreme conservatism in switching to the telephoto lens and excessive sharpening and processing due to smart HDR (and unlike older models, it can’t be turned off unless you use a third party app and shoot RAW). Some of this can be chalked up to software problems that might be fixed in the future. On the other hand, there are some hardware causes to your observations as well. The main lens on the 13 Pro is a new f/1.5 lens, which IIRC is the biggest aperture on an iPhone yet (the regular 13 is 1.6). Given that apertures are fixed on most smartphone cameras, I’d assume this is what explains the softness (lower f-stop number = bigger aperture = generally softer images). In exchange, you’d mainly get better low light performance, which might be why you get better results in your 13 Pro in most conditions except in bright light—in conditions with lots of light, you usually don’t want or need a huge aperture to collect more light, and smaller apertures (generally) give sharper (i.e. more things in focus in the frame) results. The 11 Pro had an f/2.0 lens which would be much sharper since the opening is smaller. EDIT: I also see from the DP review article that the telephoto lens on the 13 Pro/Max actually has a slower (smaller) aperture than the 12 Pro series since it’s much more zoomed in, as you’ve observed. Because of this, the telephoto lens in the 13 Pro has worse low light performance than the telephoto in the 12 Pro series. This is probably why the 13 Pro keeps preferring the main lens more often, given that the main lens gathers more light. Answer from jennesp on reddit.com
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Apple Community
discussions.apple.com › thread › 253678023
iPhone 13 Pro Max Camera Quality - Apple Community
80% of the time, when I pinch to zoom in the camera, it switches to a different lens which completely blurs and distorts the image. 2 months ago or so, the temporary solution was to “turn off Auto Macro”, which is no longer an option. I think the solution to this is on Apple to fix it. ... The iPhone 13 Pro Max should give you the best Video and Image quality.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/iphone › the iphone 13 pro camera remains awful, still, due to the ridiculous over-saturated after effects it applies automatically to every picture.
r/iphone on Reddit: The iPhone 13 Pro camera remains awful, still, due to the ridiculous over-saturated after effects it applies automatically to every picture.
December 2, 2020 -

I’m embarrassed to even show other people the results of my phone camera, and the brighter the light the picture is taken in - the more egregious the result will be.

Why is this an always-on, non optional feature? It looks TERRIBLE, and to add even more insult to injury it usually flashes the original unaltered photo at you briefly before auto applying those ridiculous effects. When you flip through Live Photos, the photo looks normal for a moment (when it’s playing the quick live animation) and then suddenly turns into a hyper exposed mess. I took a video of this in action: https://imgur.com/gallery/lPFnr9X

People look washed out and colors look like someone turned the saturation on my display waaaaay past what it should be. My picture mode is on standard and every other setting is on default. This should not be this difficult, and I shouldn’t have to go pay for some third party phone camera to get rid of the stupid effect.

I found a post of someone else having the same issue:

https://reddit.com/r/shittyHDR/comments/vcg7nh/auto_hdr_on_iphone/

I always came back home to iPhone for the ease of taking and sharing great pictures, but now I’m honestly reconsidering switching for my next phone. Especially since people have been complaining about this for a year and Apple just doesn’t give a shit that it’s flagship product is totally gimped with shitty picture quality.

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Update: I turned off the “Apply HDR” feature under Settings -> Photos and took some test shots and it doesn’t seem to be doing it for new shots. Can’t take it off of old photos though, which is obnoxious. I hope this prevents it for future photos tho, and such a dumb feature should be off by default. I will also try turning off Live Photos.

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Quora
quora.com › How-do-I-fix-an-iPhone-13-Pro-s-camera-quality
How to fix an iPhone 13 Pro’s camera quality - Quora
Answer (1 of 3): Q: How do I fix an iPhone 13 Pro’s camera quality? A: Remove your fingerprints fro the lens by following Apple’s cleaning instructions then stop putting your fingers on the lens * To clean your iPhone camera lens, use a soft, slightly damp, lint-free cloth, such as a lens ...
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/iphone13pro › iphone 13 pro camera suckssss
r/iPhone13Pro on Reddit: iPhone 13 Pro camera suckssss
December 23, 2023 -

..sucksss but mostly with selfies and mirror pics. I’ve had this phone for the past year and every time I take a picture or selfie, it makes me look washed out or like a watercolor painting with the auto editing. Has anyone been able to fix this?? I’m really debating on getting a newer phone (even thought about downgrading) but I feel like the issue will still be present. Helppp

Edit: I must say, nature pics and other types of photography/ videography on this phone are great, just struggling with the auto-enhance that takes place on human subjects….

Edit: If you can’t relate or help then why are you here? Everyone saying “it’s just you” is hilarious..but not helpful at all…

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Apple Community
discussions.apple.com › thread › 253181534
iPhone 13 Camera is blurry - Apple Community
I’ve just received my iPhone 13 Pro and instantly noticed that especially the front camera quality in low light is horrendous. Coming from an iPhone X, the difference is literally night and day. The front camera seems to have some kind of beauty or over-smoothing effect on and the pictures ...
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/apple › i hate the iphone 13 pro max's camera. am i the only one ?
r/apple on Reddit: i hate the iPhone 13 Pro Max's camera. am i the only one ?
March 7, 2022 -

it’s mostly due to the tele-lens

I always loved the 52mm equivalent on my 8+, XS Max and 11 Pro Max cause, it gives me a similar f.o.v. than the lensesd i use the most often on my different cameras. But now it’s a 77mm and it’s just too long to take almost every type of photos. Too long to shoot people, too long for animals, too long for landscape and architecture. the only time were i’ve been happy with this longer lens is the few times where i actually wished it was way longer like for filming the weird drone that was going around my building the other day.

But when i subjectively hate this 77mm, it’s also objectively bad, like, it’s very poor in low light and apple are not confident in it, so with most apps, like the default one, if you try zoomig 3x there’s like 75% chances it won’t actually use the tele lens, but instead digitally zoom on the main lens reducing it’s resolution to barely better than 1 megapixel (720p pictures and videos basically)

I’ve spoken with apple about it on the phone, spent hours trying to diagnose my iPhone of not behaving like it should but, the sad truth is that, my iPhone does totally behave as planned by apple. And i’m mad.

My partner still has his 11 Pro Max, and now everytime we go out together and i see a picture than could be taken i borrow his iPhone then airdrop myself the picture.

Also ! The main lens, has a much much bigger sensor, but the lens is actually much worse. In most situations i do take better photos with the main lens with the 13 Pro Max than the 11 Pro Max, but there are some situations, especially closer to the subject and in good light conditions, where the 11 Pro Max takes much sharper pictures.

And globally i also find the 13 Pro Max to use too much noise reduction and especially way too much Sharpening but that can be fixed by shooting RAW.

Anyway, anybody noticed apple not going the right decision with this iPhone ? I get that most of you will disagree with me. It’s okay.

I don’t think the 13 pro max is actually bad, i think for some (maybe even most) people it’s the best iPhone. But it’s not for me, and i really want to get back on the 11 Pro Max and seriously hope apple Brings back the "52mm or so" lens with the next iPhone.

Have a nice day everyone !

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Both my 12 Pro Max and 13 Pro Max way overprocess images and I'm surprised people haven't complained about it more.
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This issue seems to be a growing complaint with the 13 Pro series. It seems like the main problems are caused by the extreme conservatism in switching to the telephoto lens and excessive sharpening and processing due to smart HDR (and unlike older models, it can’t be turned off unless you use a third party app and shoot RAW). Some of this can be chalked up to software problems that might be fixed in the future. On the other hand, there are some hardware causes to your observations as well. The main lens on the 13 Pro is a new f/1.5 lens, which IIRC is the biggest aperture on an iPhone yet (the regular 13 is 1.6). Given that apertures are fixed on most smartphone cameras, I’d assume this is what explains the softness (lower f-stop number = bigger aperture = generally softer images). In exchange, you’d mainly get better low light performance, which might be why you get better results in your 13 Pro in most conditions except in bright light—in conditions with lots of light, you usually don’t want or need a huge aperture to collect more light, and smaller apertures (generally) give sharper (i.e. more things in focus in the frame) results. The 11 Pro had an f/2.0 lens which would be much sharper since the opening is smaller. EDIT: I also see from the DP review article that the telephoto lens on the 13 Pro/Max actually has a slower (smaller) aperture than the 12 Pro series since it’s much more zoomed in, as you’ve observed. Because of this, the telephoto lens in the 13 Pro has worse low light performance than the telephoto in the 12 Pro series. This is probably why the 13 Pro keeps preferring the main lens more often, given that the main lens gathers more light.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/iphone13 › is the iphone 13 camera that bad?
r/iPhone13 on Reddit: is the iphone 13 camera that bad?
July 11, 2024 -

hi guys! i currently have a samsung a53 5g and was thinking about switching to an iphone 13. have never tried apple products in my life. a phone with a good camera is very important to me, and i really hate how my samsung oversharpens videos as well as the stabilization setting sometimes making things look wonky. when i turn off stabilization, i hate how wobbly it is so there's no winning. i've been surfing reddit and saw people mentioning how bad the iphone 13 camera is... should i stay away from the 13 if i'm picky about photo/video quality?

edit: thank u so much for all the replies! got my iphone 13 and im really enjoying it. so glad i made the switch

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/ios › why does my iphone 13 pro camera looks so bad?
r/ios on Reddit: Why does my iphone 13 pro camera looks so bad?
May 28, 2021 -

The front camera (even the back one) of my iphone takes very poor quality photos, especially at night. I already made sure to deactivate the night mode but the photos are edited automatically and it adds brightness, contrast and grain, and it looks super blured. I have seen a lot of comments from people who think the same as me, but I have not seen any solution. It also happens in apps like WhatsApp or Instagram.

How do I stop the photos from editing automatically?

Even the photos looked better on my old XR, i’m considering returning it back :S

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/iphone › how to fix my camera? - iphone 13 pro
r/iphone on Reddit: How to fix my camera? - IPhone 13 Pro
October 15, 2024 -

I got this phone in September 2023, specifically for the camera and it worked well then 😭 But I swear it just kept declining and it’s so bad recently. It randomly decides when it wants to be blurred or not. Concerts I get cause of the light, but then that doesn’t affect my friends phones. I think it keeps switching lenses, but idk how to stop that. The first two photos are how my videos always start of and if I do enough zooming in and out it can switch to the right camera and look good - 3rd pic. But I want it to look like that all the time and it used to 😭 and now the zooming in and out doesn’t even help always anymore. The last pic is in regular lighting not a concert. It affects all my photos of the light isn’t perfect. I hate it, and it wasn’t always like this. Is there anything I can do to fix it or does anyone know any causes of it?

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Apple Community
discussions.apple.com › thread › 253530528
Iphone 13 Pro Camera Image Quaility - Apple Community
Hello, I recently upgraded from an iPhone 7 and bought an iPhone 13 pro. So I started using it in various lighting conditions and for the most part I saw a very consistent over processed, over saturated, meaning that the photo looks terribly artificial & seriously over processed. Normal real life shadows are pushed too hard attempting to create a uniform lighting exposure which does not exist in reality. I've used 4 different iPhone IOS camera apps, used RAW, HEIF, JPEG and TIFF's.
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MacRumors
forums.macrumors.com › iphone, ipad, and ipod touch › iphone › iphone
Really bad photos with iPhone 13 Pro (+Max) Merged | MacRumors Forums
October 3, 2021 - On top of that - and it may be a separate issue - but this camera does not know how to focus. I used to be able to take out my phone and snap a shot, now it takes a few seconds for my phone to figure out what to focus on. Apple needs to fix these issues fast. ... Glad to know I’m not the only one who thinks the photos on these new phones are completely awful. The post processing makes the pictures look low quality and watercolor-like. Photos from my iPhone X look more natural to me.
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Apple Community
discussions.apple.com › thread › 253252719
iPhone 13 Pro Disgusting Photos - Apple Community
Quality is no match for a $300+ camera, but the iPhone does do amazing macro shots as well as great video with good dynamic range and very pleasing stereo sound. Try not to feel bad about the smeary, melted ice cream with sharpened halos and crudely manipulated images that it makes right out ...
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iPhone Life
iphonelife.com › how-to › photo & video
iPhone Camera Blurry? How to Fix iPhone Camera Quality
November 11, 2021 - Next, make sure you have 24 MP selected for Photo Mode if you have a newer, higher-end model such as iPhone 16 and 15 Pro and Pro Max. Return to Camera settings and scroll down to Composition. Here, make sure to toggle the iPhone camera Grid and Level on; this will help you hold your phone steadily in place, plus you'll get to apply the rule of thirds to your photography. Keep scrolling down and make sure to toggle on Macro Control. This gives you the power to turn Macro on or off, which prevents a blurry camera and even blurrier photos.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/iphone › concerns about the 13 pro's camera quality
r/iphone on Reddit: Concerns about the 13 Pro's camera quality
November 3, 2021 -

First of all, let me clarify this is not a troll or bait post, I am genuinely concerned about the photos I've seen/my own sanity at this point.

I've been thinking of switching to the iPhone 13 ever since it was announced. I am currently using a three year old Samsung Galaxy S9 pretty much on its last leg, and I've always been an Android user, but now I'd like to try out iOS since I can finally afford an iPhone (I'm not in the US, so there were no real trade-in deals here). I also love the size, since the 13 Pro has the same height as my current phone, and that's pretty much the maximum I can comfortably balance/hold with one hand (yep, I have tiny hands).

My phone is my main (well, only) camera device, and I'm mostly taking pictures of:

  • My two cats (so indoor photos with preferable short shutter time)

  • Nature photos of forests and mountains from my hikes

  • Photos from sightseeing walks (so lots of buildings with small details)

However, based on the real life photos from various iPhone 13 Pro users, the camera is... well, not that convincing. A lot of the photos posted on r/iPhoneography and other forums are blurry or out of focus, as if the photographer didn't wait for the camera app to fully finish capturing the image, or were moving while taking the photo, or something like that.

Is the camera app really this bad at identifying the main focus, or are the users lacking the skills? Or does it take that long to capture and process the image that a point-and-shoot approach will lead to blurry/out of focus pictures? Or have I just subconsciously fallen into the mistake of pixel peeping?

Please help me convince myself that the camera is not that bad, and the change would be worth it (the other option would be to wait for the S22 that's rumored to come out around February and will have almost the exact same size as the 13 Pro, but I'm not sure I can deal with my current phone's problems for another 2-3 months).

Edit: Thanks for all the answers, apologies for not answering to all of them. I am going to do some more research, but I might actually give it a try and sell it if I'm not satisfied with the results.

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TechBoards
techboards.net › what's new › forums › specialty › photography
My iPhone 13 Pro takes terrible photos | TechBoards Forum
May 26, 2022 - It definitely seems to be a problem with the iPhone's post processing, here's a close-up comparison of Halide RAW -> JPEG vs Camera app JPEG. It's super obvious when photographing text. I always get those terrible light halos around text when using the 1x camera. Anyone here can confirm their iPhone 13 doesn't do this when shooting text from the Camera app with the 1x lens?
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/ios › iphone 13 pro camera quality and color correction
r/ios on Reddit: iPhone 13 Pro camera quality and color correction
September 28, 2021 - It sounds ridiculous, but I think the camera/photo quality has gotten significantly worse for each iphone model. I remember thinking my 5s took better photos than my 6s, and 13 pro is worse than the 8, etc. The photos are increasing processed looking, flat (no depth in the image), unnatural colors, bad focus..
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Outside Online
outsideonline.com › i tested the apple iphone 13 pro. the camera quality is ridiculous.
I Tested the Apple iPhone 13 Pro. The Camera Quality Is Ridiculous. - Outside Online
September 22, 2021 - I’ve been reviewing iPhones for seven years now, and I start every story with a similar disclaimer: if you want a camera system that you can use for professional photography, don’t spend your money on the newest iPhone. Keep your old phone and invest in a full-frame mirrorless camera instead. However, if you like the way an iPhone fits snugly in your pocket, and you mostly use its camera for Instagram snaps, then the new 13 Pro (starting at $999) is a worthy investment.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/ios › iphone 13 pro camera quality
r/ios on Reddit: iPhone 13 Pro camera quality
January 1, 2021 -

I have had the iphone 13 pro for a couple of months now, coming from galaxy s20 and it amazes me how bad the camera quality is on the iphone compared with the s20.

Showing an image taking with the iphone on a normal monitor just hurt my eyes and god forbid zooming in on the image.

Before switching I read/saw a lot of reviews where images from the iphone and s20 was compared and the results from all of these reviews was that the different was not noticeable.

So question, is it just me doing something wrong or is the quality just so bad on the iphone i'm beyond disappointed?

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Quora
quora.com › After-I-had-updated-my-iPhone-13-Pro-Max-to-iOS-16-4-1-the-camera-photo-quality-went-significantly-worse-especially-in-the-portrait-mode-Has-anyone-had-the-same-issue
After I had updated my iPhone 13 Pro Max to iOS 16.4.1, the camera photo quality went significantly worse especially in the portrait mode. Has anyone had the same issue? - Quora
Answer: Q: After I had updated my iPhone 13 Pro Max to iOS 16.4.1, the camera photo quality went significantly worse especially in the portrait mode. Has anyone had the same issue? A: No one is reporting that symptom, and considering that there are over 800 million users on that version already ...